Hi
Please help me i need a help.
I had a rift with my previous employer while leaving job, he is a very bad person and he use to harass his employees like anything. but i left the company now. my problem is recently i have selected in Genpact there they have done background verification and in that my privous employer had given a very bad feedback about me. actually Genpact people has given me offer letter also but after getting the verification report they said the report was RED and they are cancelling my offer.
i am very upset as i have resigned my current job also. i told them it is wrong information and tried to explain them but they didn't agreed with that and they cancelled my offer. how can basing one person comment they can take such a desicion. now i want to know only one thing.
whether Genpact people will enter my details into Blacklisted candidates if that is case i want to go any extent and i want to procedd legally also, becz i know that i didn't commited any mistake.
please advice any Experienced HR regrading this.
From India, Hyderabad
Please help me i need a help.
I had a rift with my previous employer while leaving job, he is a very bad person and he use to harass his employees like anything. but i left the company now. my problem is recently i have selected in Genpact there they have done background verification and in that my privous employer had given a very bad feedback about me. actually Genpact people has given me offer letter also but after getting the verification report they said the report was RED and they are cancelling my offer.
i am very upset as i have resigned my current job also. i told them it is wrong information and tried to explain them but they didn't agreed with that and they cancelled my offer. how can basing one person comment they can take such a desicion. now i want to know only one thing.
whether Genpact people will enter my details into Blacklisted candidates if that is case i want to go any extent and i want to procedd legally also, becz i know that i didn't commited any mistake.
please advice any Experienced HR regrading this.
From India, Hyderabad
Hello,
I have a few questions before we come to the ways in which such situations could be handled.
1) Did your past employer give you personally any unjstified "bad" time and how was it resolved?
2) Did the new employer (Genpact?) ask you the reasons why were you leaving your present employment and what reasons did you give them?
3) Were you so fed up with the previous employer that just on an "offer letter" you felt safe to resign employment?
4) Are you not aware that background checks are routinely done by prospective employers while screening candidates and their candidatures?
The answers will guide you in the following ways.
One can't hide the past! If there was something "unpleasant", in nine out of ten cases its is so because you can't clap with one hand. If your situation with previous employer was so bad that he had no compunctions in giving BAD feedback to your prospective employer, then the matters between you two were indeed serious (even if he was blameworthy to 90%) In such case, you must remember, now for future, that "honesty is the best policy" and volunteer if necessary, about the previous bad experience in a mature way i.e. without assigning or apportioning blame. Just say something like that the equation just did not get formed, or value systems turned out to be diagonically opposite, or the organizational culture did not suit you and your attempts to bring about positive changes were disallowed or communication processes were regimented etc.
If this was known by the prospective employer from you, volunteered or otherwise, the chances are strong that he would have discounted the previous employer's feedback as biased.
If one opportunity is lost, the world is not lost. At least you learnt something from this painful experience! Isn't that a good enough of a gain in this situation.
Buck up and intensify efforts, handle your case on facts andtransparency and you will succeed.
Regards
samvedan
January 30, 2008
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From India, Pune
315I have a few questions before we come to the ways in which such situations could be handled.
1) Did your past employer give you personally any unjstified "bad" time and how was it resolved?
2) Did the new employer (Genpact?) ask you the reasons why were you leaving your present employment and what reasons did you give them?
3) Were you so fed up with the previous employer that just on an "offer letter" you felt safe to resign employment?
4) Are you not aware that background checks are routinely done by prospective employers while screening candidates and their candidatures?
The answers will guide you in the following ways.
One can't hide the past! If there was something "unpleasant", in nine out of ten cases its is so because you can't clap with one hand. If your situation with previous employer was so bad that he had no compunctions in giving BAD feedback to your prospective employer, then the matters between you two were indeed serious (even if he was blameworthy to 90%) In such case, you must remember, now for future, that "honesty is the best policy" and volunteer if necessary, about the previous bad experience in a mature way i.e. without assigning or apportioning blame. Just say something like that the equation just did not get formed, or value systems turned out to be diagonically opposite, or the organizational culture did not suit you and your attempts to bring about positive changes were disallowed or communication processes were regimented etc.
If this was known by the prospective employer from you, volunteered or otherwise, the chances are strong that he would have discounted the previous employer's feedback as biased.
If one opportunity is lost, the world is not lost. At least you learnt something from this painful experience! Isn't that a good enough of a gain in this situation.
Buck up and intensify efforts, handle your case on facts andtransparency and you will succeed.
Regards
samvedan
January 30, 2008
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From India, Pune
Hi Hari,
I can understand ur situation but I fully agree with Mr Samvedan...in such cases you should act with utmost honesty...Professionaly justifying the rift between you n ur prev. employer....
What has probably happned in you case is you did not appraised them of this situation earlier...they must have have found you untrustworthy..which i know wrongfully..
But dont feel disheartened...every incident teaches you something...
You will definitely find a good job in few days...
Regards,
Yogita
From India, Chandigarh
I can understand ur situation but I fully agree with Mr Samvedan...in such cases you should act with utmost honesty...Professionaly justifying the rift between you n ur prev. employer....
What has probably happned in you case is you did not appraised them of this situation earlier...they must have have found you untrustworthy..which i know wrongfully..
But dont feel disheartened...every incident teaches you something...
You will definitely find a good job in few days...
Regards,
Yogita
From India, Chandigarh
Hello Samvedan
Thanks for the reply.
The company from which i got bad feedback is my previous employer, my current employer was very good and he gave a very good feedback about me. i am happy with the work and i am working with that company from past two years. I had problem only with my previous company.
Now i want to know few thing's can you answer these please?
1. I have total 3 years of experience and i have decided to remove that 1 year experience from my resume and if some HR asks i want to say that i am doing studying in that period? i dont want to do any risk in future.
2.I also heard that Genpact is registered with NASSCOM people and they have common database for all IT/ITES candidate details where they store details of fake/black listed candidates. Is that true?
my only concern is if they do anything of that sort. i want to proceed legally or want to take necessary action.
actually i have no idea of how to proceed.
please help me regarding this.
thanks for your reply.
yours
Hari.
From India, Hyderabad
Thanks for the reply.
The company from which i got bad feedback is my previous employer, my current employer was very good and he gave a very good feedback about me. i am happy with the work and i am working with that company from past two years. I had problem only with my previous company.
Now i want to know few thing's can you answer these please?
1. I have total 3 years of experience and i have decided to remove that 1 year experience from my resume and if some HR asks i want to say that i am doing studying in that period? i dont want to do any risk in future.
2.I also heard that Genpact is registered with NASSCOM people and they have common database for all IT/ITES candidate details where they store details of fake/black listed candidates. Is that true?
my only concern is if they do anything of that sort. i want to proceed legally or want to take necessary action.
actually i have no idea of how to proceed.
please help me regarding this.
thanks for your reply.
yours
Hari.
From India, Hyderabad
Hello Samvedan
Thanks for the reply.
The company from which i got bad feedback is my previous employer, my current employer was very good and he gave a very good feedback about me. i am happy with the work and i am working with that company from past two years. I had problem only with my previous company.
Now i want to know few thing's can you answer these please?
1. I have total 3 years of experience and i have decided to remove that 1 year experience from my resume and if some HR asks i want to say that i am doing studying in that period? i dont want to do any risk in future.
2.I also heard that Genpact is registered with NASSCOM people and they have common database for all IT/ITES candidate details where they store details of fake/black listed candidates. Is that true?
my only concern is if they do anything of that sort. i want to proceed legally or want to take necessary action.
actually i have no idea of how to proceed.
please help me regarding this.
thanks for your reply.
yours
Hari.
From India, Hyderabad
Thanks for the reply.
The company from which i got bad feedback is my previous employer, my current employer was very good and he gave a very good feedback about me. i am happy with the work and i am working with that company from past two years. I had problem only with my previous company.
Now i want to know few thing's can you answer these please?
1. I have total 3 years of experience and i have decided to remove that 1 year experience from my resume and if some HR asks i want to say that i am doing studying in that period? i dont want to do any risk in future.
2.I also heard that Genpact is registered with NASSCOM people and they have common database for all IT/ITES candidate details where they store details of fake/black listed candidates. Is that true?
my only concern is if they do anything of that sort. i want to proceed legally or want to take necessary action.
actually i have no idea of how to proceed.
please help me regarding this.
thanks for your reply.
yours
Hari.
From India, Hyderabad
Hello,
Even if sounds (and in reality, it is!) tough, one thing is for sure-you can't escape your truth. That one year was real in your life! To conceal that year you are willing to tell another falsehood. What if you are found out on that count or if the reason you put forward does not find favour with the interviewers? Will you tell yet another falsehood? This simply can't go on for ever! No, please for heaven's sake don't do that! It is far easier to explain that year away intelligently, tactfully and honestly without any blame getting apportioned to you.
The answer to your second question is something I can't provide since I am ignorant on that score!
As to your desire to legally proceed against that employer, I will tell you that your chances of winning are very remote. You are not covered by "Labour Law" for your own issues and civil litigation wil take interminably long time. The lawyers will become rich before you get any decision anyway!
I repeat, owning and explaining that year will be far more easy, convenient and honest. This will also ensure that you won't be carrying any guilt for the rest of your life.
Think over what I have said cooly, introspect and you will agree to this approach. Things like these happen but we cannot get over these by deceit or a dishonesty. Sooner than you think you will be found out and then you will really earn a bad name in the profession.
Pick up courage to stick to honesty and your problems will dissolve!
Regards
samvedan
January 31, 2008
From India, Pune
Even if sounds (and in reality, it is!) tough, one thing is for sure-you can't escape your truth. That one year was real in your life! To conceal that year you are willing to tell another falsehood. What if you are found out on that count or if the reason you put forward does not find favour with the interviewers? Will you tell yet another falsehood? This simply can't go on for ever! No, please for heaven's sake don't do that! It is far easier to explain that year away intelligently, tactfully and honestly without any blame getting apportioned to you.
The answer to your second question is something I can't provide since I am ignorant on that score!
As to your desire to legally proceed against that employer, I will tell you that your chances of winning are very remote. You are not covered by "Labour Law" for your own issues and civil litigation wil take interminably long time. The lawyers will become rich before you get any decision anyway!
I repeat, owning and explaining that year will be far more easy, convenient and honest. This will also ensure that you won't be carrying any guilt for the rest of your life.
Think over what I have said cooly, introspect and you will agree to this approach. Things like these happen but we cannot get over these by deceit or a dishonesty. Sooner than you think you will be found out and then you will really earn a bad name in the profession.
Pick up courage to stick to honesty and your problems will dissolve!
Regards
samvedan
January 31, 2008
From India, Pune
Hi Hari,
I can understand ur situation but I fully agree with Mr Samvedan...in such cases you should act with utmost honesty...Professionaly justifying the rift between you n ur prev. employer....
What has probably happned in you case is you did not appraised them of this situation earlier...they must have have found you untrustworthy..which i know wrongfully..
But dont feel disheartened...every incident teaches you something...
You will definitely find a good job in few days...
From India, Gurgaon
I can understand ur situation but I fully agree with Mr Samvedan...in such cases you should act with utmost honesty...Professionaly justifying the rift between you n ur prev. employer....
What has probably happned in you case is you did not appraised them of this situation earlier...they must have have found you untrustworthy..which i know wrongfully..
But dont feel disheartened...every incident teaches you something...
You will definitely find a good job in few days...
From India, Gurgaon
The HR in Genpack is correct in their path.
Try to resolve your issues with your previous boss bcos he might do this during your future refference checks to.
Let him know in a respective note that you have lost a good opertunity due to his poor feedbacks and you have alredy lost much and to kindly cooperate in future.
You can not do any thing much legally as it is his point of view on your performance.
1. Are you given written complaint on poor performance or any warnings?
2. Served noticed period completely or terminated on grounds of your boss comments?
3. all documents in place? including offer to payslip and reliving letter?
4. How long did you work?
Let me know the answers to above and il guide you with my best undersatanding to get out of this issue.
take a wrriten on demand from Genpack clearly mentioning their reasons for cancelling your offer. This will help you to build your case in case you want to proceed legally in case of similar acts in future.
From India, Bangalore
Try to resolve your issues with your previous boss bcos he might do this during your future refference checks to.
Let him know in a respective note that you have lost a good opertunity due to his poor feedbacks and you have alredy lost much and to kindly cooperate in future.
You can not do any thing much legally as it is his point of view on your performance.
1. Are you given written complaint on poor performance or any warnings?
2. Served noticed period completely or terminated on grounds of your boss comments?
3. all documents in place? including offer to payslip and reliving letter?
4. How long did you work?
Let me know the answers to above and il guide you with my best undersatanding to get out of this issue.
take a wrriten on demand from Genpack clearly mentioning their reasons for cancelling your offer. This will help you to build your case in case you want to proceed legally in case of similar acts in future.
From India, Bangalore
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