Dear Seniors
Today one of our female employee made suicide attempt in our shop floor during the lunch break, since she is not expressing the reason when enquired about this, what action we(management) can be taken on her?
expecting your valuable response in this regard as early as possible.
Regards
Sudha
From India, Bangalore
1Today one of our female employee made suicide attempt in our shop floor during the lunch break, since she is not expressing the reason when enquired about this, what action we(management) can be taken on her?
expecting your valuable response in this regard as early as possible.
Regards
Sudha
From India, Bangalore
Dear Sudha,
Please approach Samadhana Counselling Centre. Counsellor will come to employee's home. This is a social service and no charges need to be paid. The website is as below:
About | Samadhana Counselling Centre
All the best!
Dinesh V Divekar
From India, Bangalore
Please approach Samadhana Counselling Centre. Counsellor will come to employee's home. This is a social service and no charges need to be paid. The website is as below:
About | Samadhana Counselling Centre
All the best!
Dinesh V Divekar
From India, Bangalore
Hi Sudha,
As per law
In India, attempted suicide is an offense punishable under Section 309 of the Indian Penal Code. Section 309 reads thus: Attempt to commit suicide. "Whoever attempts to commit suicide and does any act towards the commission of such offence, shall be punished with simple imprisonment for a term which may extend to one year or with fine, or with both."
A Division Bench of the Supreme Court of India in P. Rathinam v. Union of India (AIR 1994 SC 1844) held that the right to live of which Article 21 speaks of can be said to bring in its trail the right not to live a forced life, and therefore, section 309 violates Article 21. This decision was, however, subsequently overruled in Gian Kaur v. State of Punjab (AIR 1996 SC 946) by a Constitution Bench of the Supreme Court, holding that Article 21 could not be construed to include within it the ‘right to die’ as a part of the fundamental right guaranteed therein; therefore, it was ruled that it could not be validly stated that section 309 is violative of Article 21.[8]
In 2008 the Law Commission of India submitted a review to the government to repeal section 309. The Law Commission said "The Supreme Court in Gian Kaur focused on constitutionality of section 309. It did not go into the wisdom of retaining or continuing the same in the statute." The Commission has resolved to recommend to the Government to initiate steps for repeal of the anachronistic law contained in section 309, IPC, which would relieve the distressed of his suffering. Suicide rate in India, is above "the average world suicide rate ."
So as per my opinion you can inform to her family and local police station for the same..
Thanking you,
Regards,
Ashish
From India, Pune
As per law
In India, attempted suicide is an offense punishable under Section 309 of the Indian Penal Code. Section 309 reads thus: Attempt to commit suicide. "Whoever attempts to commit suicide and does any act towards the commission of such offence, shall be punished with simple imprisonment for a term which may extend to one year or with fine, or with both."
A Division Bench of the Supreme Court of India in P. Rathinam v. Union of India (AIR 1994 SC 1844) held that the right to live of which Article 21 speaks of can be said to bring in its trail the right not to live a forced life, and therefore, section 309 violates Article 21. This decision was, however, subsequently overruled in Gian Kaur v. State of Punjab (AIR 1996 SC 946) by a Constitution Bench of the Supreme Court, holding that Article 21 could not be construed to include within it the ‘right to die’ as a part of the fundamental right guaranteed therein; therefore, it was ruled that it could not be validly stated that section 309 is violative of Article 21.[8]
In 2008 the Law Commission of India submitted a review to the government to repeal section 309. The Law Commission said "The Supreme Court in Gian Kaur focused on constitutionality of section 309. It did not go into the wisdom of retaining or continuing the same in the statute." The Commission has resolved to recommend to the Government to initiate steps for repeal of the anachronistic law contained in section 309, IPC, which would relieve the distressed of his suffering. Suicide rate in India, is above "the average world suicide rate ."
So as per my opinion you can inform to her family and local police station for the same..
Thanking you,
Regards,
Ashish
From India, Pune
Ashish, whilst I am not arguing that there is a law about this, isn't this a very hard view to take??
Clearly, the person concerned has problems, and surely we need to show some compassion before we rush to judgement or to report this to police etc.
I would sincerely hope that the organisation concerned has taken now steps to provide assistance to this person in an enlightened and compassionate way.
From Australia, Melbourne
Clearly, the person concerned has problems, and surely we need to show some compassion before we rush to judgement or to report this to police etc.
I would sincerely hope that the organisation concerned has taken now steps to provide assistance to this person in an enlightened and compassionate way.
From Australia, Melbourne
Hello John Sir,
* What if person tried for suicide due to work pressure and mental harassment of seniors ?
* What if she will try the same in other location?
* What if police will take an action on company due to make this things confidential?
* What if She will get a success on another chance? and police will take an action on company because hiding the first attempt of Suicide.?
* What if there is no suicide attempt it was try to kill her?
as per my opinion above all theory will be solved if we could inform her parents as well as police.
Thanking you,
Regards,
Ashish
From India, Pune
* What if person tried for suicide due to work pressure and mental harassment of seniors ?
* What if she will try the same in other location?
* What if police will take an action on company due to make this things confidential?
* What if She will get a success on another chance? and police will take an action on company because hiding the first attempt of Suicide.?
* What if there is no suicide attempt it was try to kill her?
as per my opinion above all theory will be solved if we could inform her parents as well as police.
Thanking you,
Regards,
Ashish
From India, Pune
Sir/ Madam
Please discuss with the family member to collect informations and also peers
Engage organizational psychologist for Psychotherapy
regards
Dr.G.V.Kumar
Orgainsational Psychologist &Corporate Trainer since 1983
09444144510 /
From India, Madras
Please discuss with the family member to collect informations and also peers
Engage organizational psychologist for Psychotherapy
regards
Dr.G.V.Kumar
Orgainsational Psychologist &Corporate Trainer since 1983
09444144510 /
From India, Madras
Hi Ashish,
I understand where you are coming from, BUT, I reiterate, these matters need to be dealt with sensitively. I very much doubt that the police need to be involved in the first instance. That may come further down the track.
The first thing is to see to the well being of this person, and then to try and ascertain what is happening in her life to bring her to this point. If it should turn out to be harassment at work, by management or colleagues, then yes, the police must be involved.
All necessary precautions should be taken to ensure she cannot make another attempt. However, I do not think bring the police to her door will assist this. It would likely scare her and cause even more pyschological damage.
This is a serious matter, but it needs to be thought through and handled more sensitively than you are suggesting. I would sincerely hope that the company concerned has quickly arranged both medical assistance and counselling of some sort to help this lady.
From Australia, Melbourne
I understand where you are coming from, BUT, I reiterate, these matters need to be dealt with sensitively. I very much doubt that the police need to be involved in the first instance. That may come further down the track.
The first thing is to see to the well being of this person, and then to try and ascertain what is happening in her life to bring her to this point. If it should turn out to be harassment at work, by management or colleagues, then yes, the police must be involved.
All necessary precautions should be taken to ensure she cannot make another attempt. However, I do not think bring the police to her door will assist this. It would likely scare her and cause even more pyschological damage.
This is a serious matter, but it needs to be thought through and handled more sensitively than you are suggesting. I would sincerely hope that the company concerned has quickly arranged both medical assistance and counselling of some sort to help this lady.
From Australia, Melbourne
Hi Sudha,
Iam Venkat ,Its a common thing which has happened in your work place because now a days many people have got accustomed to live under a severe stress full life under different circumstances, so not to get panic into this try to contact the right & experienced person in getting good suggestion, but please do understand that already that person must be having some problem which has made him to take such decision, In fact you have clearly mentioned that she has not said an single word in inquiry so take out most care in handling such people and here you become a GREAT PERSON if you handle things in a great manner so that you protect all your employees interest in saving yourself too.
If anything mentioned above is wrong please do correct me, thanks for giving me an opportunity to express my view upon this, Thank You..
From India, Jaipur
Iam Venkat ,Its a common thing which has happened in your work place because now a days many people have got accustomed to live under a severe stress full life under different circumstances, so not to get panic into this try to contact the right & experienced person in getting good suggestion, but please do understand that already that person must be having some problem which has made him to take such decision, In fact you have clearly mentioned that she has not said an single word in inquiry so take out most care in handling such people and here you become a GREAT PERSON if you handle things in a great manner so that you protect all your employees interest in saving yourself too.
If anything mentioned above is wrong please do correct me, thanks for giving me an opportunity to express my view upon this, Thank You..
From India, Jaipur
Now-a-days suicide attempts are common as nobody would like to be scolded or fired, even if he/she commits wrong things. This applies to both home as well as companies. All might have read in the newspaper of suicide by teenager when he/she was prevented from seeing TV by his/her parents. In Kerala, there are students who make suicidal attempts, if they have not achieved the grade they are expecting, Due to stress/fear they are doing this. Some are trying to do because of their family home problems/marital relations etc.
This is a case in the shop floor. Definitely the reasons should be probed into. Instead of calling police and handing over the female employee
and washing the hands of management, the Plant Head alongwith the Factory HR Manager may call the employee alongwith her family members
and hold a closed door discussions. Once the reasons cropped up, are genuine or reasonable, a proper remedial measure should be taken.
Thanks.
R K Nair
From India, Aizawl
This is a case in the shop floor. Definitely the reasons should be probed into. Instead of calling police and handing over the female employee
and washing the hands of management, the Plant Head alongwith the Factory HR Manager may call the employee alongwith her family members
and hold a closed door discussions. Once the reasons cropped up, are genuine or reasonable, a proper remedial measure should be taken.
Thanks.
R K Nair
From India, Aizawl
Sudha ji ,
I would personally request you to ensure that your colleague is treated with compassion , respect & care. Since , she is already going thru emotional crisis and all of you wish that she tides over this period to return back to normal life. Rumours / side talks about the incident should to discouraged in the near future. Seek professional help at the earliest.
Regards,
Sourav Mukherjee
From India, Bangalore
I would personally request you to ensure that your colleague is treated with compassion , respect & care. Since , she is already going thru emotional crisis and all of you wish that she tides over this period to return back to normal life. Rumours / side talks about the incident should to discouraged in the near future. Seek professional help at the earliest.
Regards,
Sourav Mukherjee
From India, Bangalore
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