My self Deepesh Jangid and I joined a organization in 11 May 2017. I given the resignation on 20 Dec 2017 and also serve notice period as per mentioned offer letter 7 Days in provisional period. My last working in organization is 27 Dec 2017.
I have served proper notice period, hand over my responsibilities to colleagues and senior with proper documentation.
On 26 Dec 2017, I have filled the Exit Clearance form and get the signature from all departments of organization.
Company has provided me reliving letter on 1 Jan 2017 after many follow up with HR departments.
Today 40 days has been completed from my last day in organization.
In offer letter, it is not mentioned that how many days company will clear the full and final dues.
As per the verbal communication with HR, company will clear the dues within in 45 days which is not mentioned.
After the discussion with Finance HOD and HR departments they told me you should need to wait 6 months or may be more delay.
Company has capable to release full and final payment but they are not doing. Many employees are not getting dues amount from last 6 months because they are not aware and educated. Employees come in office for dues but HR departments told that you will get the payment shortly.
The company is hold approximate Rs. 30 Lacs of full and final dues.
I need help from experts.
1) what is the rules of full and final dues payment.
2) As per government rules, how many days company need to release payment.
3) What kind of penalty charge on company in delay in payment.
4) If company delay in payment then employee can ask for interest. If yes then what is interest rate will charge.
From India, Jaipur
1I have served proper notice period, hand over my responsibilities to colleagues and senior with proper documentation.
On 26 Dec 2017, I have filled the Exit Clearance form and get the signature from all departments of organization.
Company has provided me reliving letter on 1 Jan 2017 after many follow up with HR departments.
Today 40 days has been completed from my last day in organization.
In offer letter, it is not mentioned that how many days company will clear the full and final dues.
As per the verbal communication with HR, company will clear the dues within in 45 days which is not mentioned.
After the discussion with Finance HOD and HR departments they told me you should need to wait 6 months or may be more delay.
Company has capable to release full and final payment but they are not doing. Many employees are not getting dues amount from last 6 months because they are not aware and educated. Employees come in office for dues but HR departments told that you will get the payment shortly.
The company is hold approximate Rs. 30 Lacs of full and final dues.
I need help from experts.
1) what is the rules of full and final dues payment.
2) As per government rules, how many days company need to release payment.
3) What kind of penalty charge on company in delay in payment.
4) If company delay in payment then employee can ask for interest. If yes then what is interest rate will charge.
From India, Jaipur
The Payment of Gratuity Act provides for interest @ 10% simle interest for any delay in payment of gratuity and it is considered as delayed payment if not paid within a month.
Factories Act states that payment of leave wages has to be made within two days of separation of service. There is no laid down interest rate in the Act.
Similarly the Payment of Wages Act also stipulate that unpaid wages be paid to terminated employee by the next pay-day. There is no laid down interest rate in the Act.
The Courts have been allowing interest on delayed payment depending on the Bank Rate of Interest for overdraft purposes.
From India, Mumbai
Factories Act states that payment of leave wages has to be made within two days of separation of service. There is no laid down interest rate in the Act.
Similarly the Payment of Wages Act also stipulate that unpaid wages be paid to terminated employee by the next pay-day. There is no laid down interest rate in the Act.
The Courts have been allowing interest on delayed payment depending on the Bank Rate of Interest for overdraft purposes.
From India, Mumbai
@ KK!HR
As I worked in Service Industry and the company is running Government Project 108 Ambulance in Rajasthan.
I am associated with the company only 8 month.
Please also advise on following points.
2) As per government rules, how many days company need to release payment.
3) What kind of penalty charge on company in delay in payment.
4) If company delay in payment then employee can ask for interest. If yes then what is interest rate will charge.
Waiting your quick reply !!!
Thanks and Regard,
Deepesh Jangid
Mob. 8233287089
From India, Jaipur
As I worked in Service Industry and the company is running Government Project 108 Ambulance in Rajasthan.
I am associated with the company only 8 month.
Please also advise on following points.
2) As per government rules, how many days company need to release payment.
3) What kind of penalty charge on company in delay in payment.
4) If company delay in payment then employee can ask for interest. If yes then what is interest rate will charge.
Waiting your quick reply !!!
Thanks and Regard,
Deepesh Jangid
Mob. 8233287089
From India, Jaipur
Dear Deepesh,
If the amount of FFS works out to Rs 30 Lakh then certainly you were not working in the worker category. In that case what was your designation and why you had to quit with just eight month's tenure?
Since you were working in service industry, provisions of shops and establishment act are applicable to you. However, you appear to be Manager and above category. Therefore, the only legal remedy available to you is to file civil suit to recover the outstanding amount.
The quantum amount that you say is outstanding speaks volumes. You have mentioned the date of your exit but then was there turbulence preceding to your exit? Were you issued any verbal notice to quit? What are the provisions of your appointment letter? How come you just left with seven days' notice?
It appears that your employers feel that they did not derive any value from the term during for which you had held some senior position. Hence they are clinging on to whatever they could have disbursed to you. Telling you to wait for six more months for the clearance of FFS amount is nothing but saying "No" but indirectly.
Thanks,
Dinesh Divekar
From India, Bangalore
If the amount of FFS works out to Rs 30 Lakh then certainly you were not working in the worker category. In that case what was your designation and why you had to quit with just eight month's tenure?
Since you were working in service industry, provisions of shops and establishment act are applicable to you. However, you appear to be Manager and above category. Therefore, the only legal remedy available to you is to file civil suit to recover the outstanding amount.
The quantum amount that you say is outstanding speaks volumes. You have mentioned the date of your exit but then was there turbulence preceding to your exit? Were you issued any verbal notice to quit? What are the provisions of your appointment letter? How come you just left with seven days' notice?
It appears that your employers feel that they did not derive any value from the term during for which you had held some senior position. Hence they are clinging on to whatever they could have disbursed to you. Telling you to wait for six more months for the clearance of FFS amount is nothing but saying "No" but indirectly.
Thanks,
Dinesh Divekar
From India, Bangalore
Dear Deepesh,
The 7 days Notice Period seems to be very short to your position. From your post we are unable to make-out whether you were on a probation or confirmed employee. If confirmed than 7 days notice period is not correct. There must be some confusion. Pls confirm.
Regards,
Suresh
From India, Thane
The 7 days Notice Period seems to be very short to your position. From your post we are unable to make-out whether you were on a probation or confirmed employee. If confirmed than 7 days notice period is not correct. There must be some confusion. Pls confirm.
Regards,
Suresh
From India, Thane
Dear Deepesh,
In respect of the services rendered by an employee to an employer as per the contract of employment, the primary consideration that is quantifiable in monetary terms and payable to the employee is the wage or salary or remuneration as agreed in the contract of employment. This entitlement of the employee is enlarged by certain other monetarily quantifiable service conditions both during the currency of the contract or on its termination as introduced by certain Labor Laws applicable like the PW Act,1936, the MW Act,1948, the PB Act,1965, the PG Act,1972 etc. In the event of non-compliance by the employer in respect of time as well as quantum, these enactments have their own in-built redressal measures which provide for levy of interest for default.
Therefore, in respect of delay or denial of such payments which are specifically covered by such Laws, you can claim interest on the amount due as per the related provisions.
In respect of any due not covered specifically by any such Laws, interest can be claimed on the premise of the breach of the employment contract for in such a situation the employee becomes a creditor to the employer.
Regarding the rate of interest, it is fixed in the respective Laws based on simple interest of bank rates. Where no rate is fixed, it is for the claimant/employee to quote it with reasonable justification. The employee has to remember that levy of interest on the amount is only to compensate the loss due to delayed payment and not otherwise. That's why there is a restriction in the PG Act,1972 that the total interest amount should not exceed the original claim amount.
From India, Salem
In respect of the services rendered by an employee to an employer as per the contract of employment, the primary consideration that is quantifiable in monetary terms and payable to the employee is the wage or salary or remuneration as agreed in the contract of employment. This entitlement of the employee is enlarged by certain other monetarily quantifiable service conditions both during the currency of the contract or on its termination as introduced by certain Labor Laws applicable like the PW Act,1936, the MW Act,1948, the PB Act,1965, the PG Act,1972 etc. In the event of non-compliance by the employer in respect of time as well as quantum, these enactments have their own in-built redressal measures which provide for levy of interest for default.
Therefore, in respect of delay or denial of such payments which are specifically covered by such Laws, you can claim interest on the amount due as per the related provisions.
In respect of any due not covered specifically by any such Laws, interest can be claimed on the premise of the breach of the employment contract for in such a situation the employee becomes a creditor to the employer.
Regarding the rate of interest, it is fixed in the respective Laws based on simple interest of bank rates. Where no rate is fixed, it is for the claimant/employee to quote it with reasonable justification. The employee has to remember that levy of interest on the amount is only to compensate the loss due to delayed payment and not otherwise. That's why there is a restriction in the PG Act,1972 that the total interest amount should not exceed the original claim amount.
From India, Salem
Dear Suresh Sir,
I am not confirmed employee in the organization and accordingly offer letter my notice period is only 7 days which I have served in the organization.
I have given proper resignation with all documentation.
Pls advice what kind of penalty charge on the organization for delay FFS payment.
Regards,
Deepesh Jangid
From India, Jaipur
I am not confirmed employee in the organization and accordingly offer letter my notice period is only 7 days which I have served in the organization.
I have given proper resignation with all documentation.
Pls advice what kind of penalty charge on the organization for delay FFS payment.
Regards,
Deepesh Jangid
From India, Jaipur
Mr Uma has given a clear reply on quantum of interest rates.
Can you give a break up of Rs30 lakhs?
What capacity did you work in the company?
Is it that salary has been held up or paid in time for a period of 8 months ?
From India, Pune
Can you give a break up of Rs30 lakhs?
What capacity did you work in the company?
Is it that salary has been held up or paid in time for a period of 8 months ?
From India, Pune
Dear Deepesh,
It seems quality of your post had confused everyone. please correct me if i am wrong . By 30 lacs Rs. unsettled FnF you mean till date uncleared dues of all the employees who resigned. Also, from your post what i understand is you were working at executive level.
Please clarify few things;
What is your gross salary?
How much FnF you are expecting?
What is your designation?
Does any one report to you?
From India, Pune
It seems quality of your post had confused everyone. please correct me if i am wrong . By 30 lacs Rs. unsettled FnF you mean till date uncleared dues of all the employees who resigned. Also, from your post what i understand is you were working at executive level.
Please clarify few things;
What is your gross salary?
How much FnF you are expecting?
What is your designation?
Does any one report to you?
From India, Pune
Dear Mr. Jangid,
After going thru the entire correspondence it is confirmed that your Company owes you maximum 27 days salary and you were working for a Junior position. You can very well approach to Govt. Labour Officer of area where your company is situated and lodge your complaint for non-payment of your Dec. 2017 salary. You have all supporting documents such as relieving letter, handing over responsibilities, exit clearance signed by concerned dept. etc. You have very clear case but you had confused everyone by improper posting. You have already wasted > 2 months now, forget about interest and take your Dec. 2017 salary thru the labour department. The Labour Officer also will earn around Rs.5,000/- by the Grace of Deepesh.
If you still interested in punishing your employer, consult Labour Lawyer pay him fees double the amount equivalent to your final dues and claim interest for your satisfaction.
Best of Luck,
Suresh
From India, Thane
After going thru the entire correspondence it is confirmed that your Company owes you maximum 27 days salary and you were working for a Junior position. You can very well approach to Govt. Labour Officer of area where your company is situated and lodge your complaint for non-payment of your Dec. 2017 salary. You have all supporting documents such as relieving letter, handing over responsibilities, exit clearance signed by concerned dept. etc. You have very clear case but you had confused everyone by improper posting. You have already wasted > 2 months now, forget about interest and take your Dec. 2017 salary thru the labour department. The Labour Officer also will earn around Rs.5,000/- by the Grace of Deepesh.
If you still interested in punishing your employer, consult Labour Lawyer pay him fees double the amount equivalent to your final dues and claim interest for your satisfaction.
Best of Luck,
Suresh
From India, Thane
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