Hi, I am leaving the office today, and the HR department is refusing to give me the full and final settlement document. The company owes me more than a lakh. They are telling me that they will show me the figure but will not provide either a hard copy or soft copy of it. What should I do? Can an organization refuse to provide such a document? Please advise.
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Raj
From India, Trivandrum
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Raj
From India, Trivandrum
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Dear Smith, F& F will be prepared after your last working day. Because they have to calculate your attendance, bonus, any due to company. It may take a week. Suresh kumar.k
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thanks for the reply suresh, but they have prepared the document, the only thing is they are not giving it to me. they says they will show me, but wont give.
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dear you can insist them to provide copy of full and final they can not refuse for the same. one has right know how the things are calculated. regards j s malik
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I think you should wait for some time. HR processes take time to ensure that all dues are calculated and accounted for. Normally, organizations take 4 to 8 weeks to prepare the final settlement, and the details are provided along with the relieving letter. It's best to have some patience. Try putting yourself in their shoes and understand their limitations.
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Has anything mentioned in your appointment letter regarding the notice period? If so, have you fulfilled that? If fulfilled, then you can ask them for a full and final settlement form. Normally, it has to be submitted after the last working day.
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Dear Sir,
I am also a victim of a more critical situation. My F&F statement and even cheque, I have not received after leaving the company 10 months ago. When I called HR, they told me it's in signing at HO. Please help me with what to do? Also, can you tell me if RTI can help me in any way?
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kB
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I am also a victim of a more critical situation. My F&F statement and even cheque, I have not received after leaving the company 10 months ago. When I called HR, they told me it's in signing at HO. Please help me with what to do? Also, can you tell me if RTI can help me in any way?
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kB
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Dear,
Normally, the HR department takes some time to arrive at this figure. If they have already prepared it, they might be waiting for it to be approved by someone.
Secondly, as long as you are able to understand and are satisfied with the way it is done (by seeing the copy), having a hard copy is not going to offer you anything significant. You can ensure that all dues payable to you have been computed and paid correctly. Whether they give you a copy or not is immaterial.
V. Balaji
From India, Madras
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Normally, the HR department takes some time to arrive at this figure. If they have already prepared it, they might be waiting for it to be approved by someone.
Secondly, as long as you are able to understand and are satisfied with the way it is done (by seeing the copy), having a hard copy is not going to offer you anything significant. You can ensure that all dues payable to you have been computed and paid correctly. Whether they give you a copy or not is immaterial.
V. Balaji
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Perfectly said by Mr. Balaji. F&F figures are correctly arrived at the close of the LWD. There is always some variation in the final figure if you compare it with the calculated one beforehand. Anything given in black and white seeks responsibility; hence, they will probably give you the final figure after the approval of the payroll. So, it's better to wait for the final figure.
Arun Phulera
From India, Mumbai
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Dear Smith,
It is unfortunate but true that some organizations do not provide such details. It is highly unethical for any organization to disclose details of F & F calculations to an employee who is leaving the organization. This only serves to suggest that perhaps they have something to hide.
Best of luck,
Vasant Nair
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It is unfortunate but true that some organizations do not provide such details. It is highly unethical for any organization to disclose details of F & F calculations to an employee who is leaving the organization. This only serves to suggest that perhaps they have something to hide.
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Vasant Nair
9717726667
From India, Mumbai
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It shpoudl have read...it is most unethical for any organization NOT to give details of F & F calculations to an employee who is leaving the organization. Vasant Nair
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Well! :idea:As it seems through your question...it seems you have some doubt on their calculation or there intention....it's quite obvious. Normally the HR, s behaves in different fashion once you are out of the company and queued in the F&F list. What i believe is you should firstly spk frankly to the concerned HR over the phone without any hesitation or if you have any problem you are fully free to appoint any of your lawyer friend to communicate on your behalf... Step one; :)first let your concerned HR know that you have the particular problem and tell hi the three options from your side.....which ever he may feel comfortable. Step two: :icon1:If he dose not listen to that and still not cooperating with you send a mail to the VP Hr or who so ever is the head....or even the CEO could be mailed statinh the entire episode along with the relevnt documents if you have any. Step three::-x In case you do not get any relief ...its time to utilize the constitutional rights given to you and tell your lawyer to file an RIT in the high court and .........just rest now its their turn to run around......if you need any further help in this matter feel free to mail me at :icon10:
:-D Amit Kumar Jha Lawyer corporate affairs
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Hi, Dear,
Normally, the F&F should not take even a day more. On the last day itself, all the settlement should be done. In case the employee is due, the HR department should inform the employee about the shortfall amount from their settlement, or vice versa. This can be challenged in a Court of law as a Civil case if you come under Management Grade. If an employee falls under the definition of the Worker category, then the jurisdiction is the "Labour Inspector"/ Labour Courts.
However, RTI is not applicable in this case if the company is a privately held company such as Pvt Ltd/ Ltd. RTI can be challenged if it is a Semi Govt/Govt/Public Institutions, etc.
Hope this clarifies your problem.
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Venunath
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Normally, the F&F should not take even a day more. On the last day itself, all the settlement should be done. In case the employee is due, the HR department should inform the employee about the shortfall amount from their settlement, or vice versa. This can be challenged in a Court of law as a Civil case if you come under Management Grade. If an employee falls under the definition of the Worker category, then the jurisdiction is the "Labour Inspector"/ Labour Courts.
However, RTI is not applicable in this case if the company is a privately held company such as Pvt Ltd/ Ltd. RTI can be challenged if it is a Semi Govt/Govt/Public Institutions, etc.
Hope this clarifies your problem.
Regards,
Venunath
9819731663
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They have to give it to it & as per Law they have to clear your F&F within 7 days of your Reliving.
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Full n final settlement.doc