Greetings to all CITEHR MEMBERS,
I am himavalli and 1 month 3 days old member of CITEHR and recently(May 2006) moved to London(family obligations).In India(Hyderabad) I have 2years experience as HR executive with working knowledge in Performance Management,TNA,Exit interviews,Recruitment,associates' welfare activities,payroll(partly) & Induction.
Though there is good need for HR professionals here because of not having UK work experience my resume is kept on hold when applied directly to various companies . I approached various consultancy's also
but its not working.
Also enquired about courses which hr professionals work towards for higher management like CIPD,CPP etc but very expensive £8000-£10000 fee.
Please give your valuable inputs inorder to cope with my present situation seriously.
Thanks in advance
cheers
Hima
From United Kingdom, London
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I am himavalli and 1 month 3 days old member of CITEHR and recently(May 2006) moved to London(family obligations).In India(Hyderabad) I have 2years experience as HR executive with working knowledge in Performance Management,TNA,Exit interviews,Recruitment,associates' welfare activities,payroll(partly) & Induction.
Though there is good need for HR professionals here because of not having UK work experience my resume is kept on hold when applied directly to various companies . I approached various consultancy's also
but its not working.
Also enquired about courses which hr professionals work towards for higher management like CIPD,CPP etc but very expensive £8000-£10000 fee.
Please give your valuable inputs inorder to cope with my present situation seriously.
Thanks in advance
cheers
Hima
From United Kingdom, London
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Hi Hima,
As you are in the UK, I believe there are many Non-Resident Indians who have opened their own firms. You can first join them to gain experience and understand how the HR department functions in the UK. Then, you will be able to secure a good job.
There is one more alternative to this: apply to companies in the same industry you had worked with earlier, which might be a plus point for you. Initially, you might find it challenging to land a job in HR as it involves direct interaction with internal customers. However, do not lose hope; keep trying, and you will find a good job given your two years of experience.
Suresh Deshpande, AM - HR.
From India, New Delhi
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1As you are in the UK, I believe there are many Non-Resident Indians who have opened their own firms. You can first join them to gain experience and understand how the HR department functions in the UK. Then, you will be able to secure a good job.
There is one more alternative to this: apply to companies in the same industry you had worked with earlier, which might be a plus point for you. Initially, you might find it challenging to land a job in HR as it involves direct interaction with internal customers. However, do not lose hope; keep trying, and you will find a good job given your two years of experience.
Suresh Deshpande, AM - HR.
From India, New Delhi
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Thank you Mr.Suresh Deshpande I have no idea about NRI firms here but have to find them at anycost. once again thank you for the advice warm regards hima
From United Kingdom, London
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Hi Hima,
I have no idea whether it can be worked out or not, but I would like to suggest it. If you have any relatives working in another company, try to get a project to learn the UK culture without a stipend for 2-3 months. You can then mention this experience when job searching.
Please explain to the employer that you have 2 years of experience in India and that you are here to learn UK culture, etc.
Regards, Ramya Shankar 8)
From India, Pune
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I have no idea whether it can be worked out or not, but I would like to suggest it. If you have any relatives working in another company, try to get a project to learn the UK culture without a stipend for 2-3 months. You can then mention this experience when job searching.
Please explain to the employer that you have 2 years of experience in India and that you are here to learn UK culture, etc.
Regards, Ramya Shankar 8)
From India, Pune
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Hi Ramya,
All the people I know are from the hotel industry. As you know, this sector has less scope for candidates from an HR background and tends to focus more on individuals with hotel management qualifications.
I am currently gathering information from all my friends and creating my own network of contacts, hoping that something positive will come out of this. Additionally, I am also exploring opportunities for voluntary work to gain insight into the working environment in the UK.
Thank you, Ramya.
Warm regards,
Hima
From United Kingdom, London
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All the people I know are from the hotel industry. As you know, this sector has less scope for candidates from an HR background and tends to focus more on individuals with hotel management qualifications.
I am currently gathering information from all my friends and creating my own network of contacts, hoping that something positive will come out of this. Additionally, I am also exploring opportunities for voluntary work to gain insight into the working environment in the UK.
Thank you, Ramya.
Warm regards,
Hima
From United Kingdom, London
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Hello Ramya,
As an HR professional, you must first have your confidentiality levels at the highest peak. Then, make a realistic/objective SWOT Analysis. In the process of your trying to reach the UK's culture, try to meet a few known persons who are in the HR field there. Maybe a good number of Indians may be available. The feedback from those practicing professionals surely helps you. If having experience in the UK is mandatory, as rightly suggested by our friends, join hands with some firms for orientation to study the systems even without remuneration. Consider it as your On-the-Job Training or Articleship in CA, which gives no instant returns but pays rich dividends in the future.
Another fact is that Hema is also in the UK, who has replied via this post. Please take her help and get more inputs. It appears she has been there for quite some time in the UK.
Goodbye then. Wishing you good luck.
Srinivaskvmk
From India, Hyderabad
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As an HR professional, you must first have your confidentiality levels at the highest peak. Then, make a realistic/objective SWOT Analysis. In the process of your trying to reach the UK's culture, try to meet a few known persons who are in the HR field there. Maybe a good number of Indians may be available. The feedback from those practicing professionals surely helps you. If having experience in the UK is mandatory, as rightly suggested by our friends, join hands with some firms for orientation to study the systems even without remuneration. Consider it as your On-the-Job Training or Articleship in CA, which gives no instant returns but pays rich dividends in the future.
Another fact is that Hema is also in the UK, who has replied via this post. Please take her help and get more inputs. It appears she has been there for quite some time in the UK.
Goodbye then. Wishing you good luck.
Srinivaskvmk
From India, Hyderabad
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Thank you very much for the good advice. You must require patience, and your resume should be in simple language and straight to the point. Once you forward me the resume, I will format it properly.
With regards,
Gopal K.
Hyderabad
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From India, Chennai
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Gopal K.
Hyderabad
09948578109 (mobile) online always
From India, Chennai
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Thank you Mr.Sreenivas and Mr.Gopal Mr.Gopal my resume is very short and simple and not exceeding 2 pages and very professionally structured according to UK format.Its not an issue Cheers Hima
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Mr. srinivaskvmk, I am an indian working in india. Hope you have to give the suggestion to Ms. Hima. Regards, Ramya.R
From India, Pune
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Dont be confused :? with me and Ms.Ramya I posted the problem she has suggested an idea. Sorry Ramya for the inconvience. Takecare Hima
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Hi, Its not a problem. I just informed him thats all. I am not serious to this. Regards, Ramya.R
From India, Pune
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Hi Rima,
Have you got the job? How are you applying for these jobs in the UK? There are many Indian firms in the UK. Have you tried there? Maybe, dear, you just have to be patient and continuously do the job hunt. This process is very tedious but rewarding; keep in touch with the consultants and job portals.
All the best,
Archna
From India, Delhi
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Have you got the job? How are you applying for these jobs in the UK? There are many Indian firms in the UK. Have you tried there? Maybe, dear, you just have to be patient and continuously do the job hunt. This process is very tedious but rewarding; keep in touch with the consultants and job portals.
All the best,
Archna
From India, Delhi
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Hi Archana,
I haven't applied to NRI firms in the UK because I don't have any information in this regard. If you have any, please forward it to me.
Yes, I have registered with agencies, job portals, and I am in touch with them. As you mentioned, it takes time to get a good career break, and I am trying my level best for that.
Thank you and Regards,
Hima :)
From United Kingdom, London
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I haven't applied to NRI firms in the UK because I don't have any information in this regard. If you have any, please forward it to me.
Yes, I have registered with agencies, job portals, and I am in touch with them. As you mentioned, it takes time to get a good career break, and I am trying my level best for that.
Thank you and Regards,
Hima :)
From United Kingdom, London
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Same from Hyderabad. Do not think about the salary when you join; even I was in the same position until last month. Be confident and join any job; you will gain some experience after being there for 6 months. Then, search on the internet. Show me your resume once.
Gopal.K
From India, Chennai
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good morning, If an an employee is on EL and during that leave period holiday or sunday fall . Will that holiday will consider as leave or not Waiting for your immediate reply Regards Nirmal
From India, New Delhi
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Hi Nirmal,
It depends on your leave policy and how you have structured it. I have drafted a new leave policy in which I have specified that the intervening holidays will not be considered. Such policies are followed by many companies. However, in my previous company, these holidays were counted as part of the leave days.
Note: The treatment of these holidays in your leave policy should be based on the total number of leaves available. If the total exceeds 40, including PL - 30, Saturday & Sunday leave, national holidays - 10-12, CL/SL - 12 options, then it is advisable to count them. If the total leave entitlement is below or equal to 20, then it is recommended not to consider these holidays.
I hope this clarifies the approach to be taken.
Regards,
Ramya Shankar
From India, Pune
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It depends on your leave policy and how you have structured it. I have drafted a new leave policy in which I have specified that the intervening holidays will not be considered. Such policies are followed by many companies. However, in my previous company, these holidays were counted as part of the leave days.
Note: The treatment of these holidays in your leave policy should be based on the total number of leaves available. If the total exceeds 40, including PL - 30, Saturday & Sunday leave, national holidays - 10-12, CL/SL - 12 options, then it is advisable to count them. If the total leave entitlement is below or equal to 20, then it is recommended not to consider these holidays.
I hope this clarifies the approach to be taken.
Regards,
Ramya Shankar
From India, Pune
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It is discretionary. If your mgmt approves, you can exempt the intervening holidays. RGds. Venkat
From India, Mumbai
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Hi,
If the establishment in which the employee is employed is covered under the Shops & Commercial Establishments Act, then the wage/salary paid to each employee is considered as paid for all days of the month (including the weekly offs and the Paid Holidays), and therefore, the paid holidays falling during the leave sanctioned and utilized will be counted as days of leave.
However, if the employee is employed in an establishment covered under the Factories Act, then the wage/salary is considered as paid for 26 days (excluding the weekly offs and paid holidays). Under such conditions, the leave sanctioned and utilized by the employee will have to exclude the weekly offs and the paid holidays falling during the period of leave.
If your organization has framed rules providing different treatment, I will only say that the rules cannot reduce the benefits provided by the legislation.
Your question concerns as much the statutory provisions as it concerns the company Leave Rules!
Regards,
Samvedan
August 27, 2006
From India, Pune
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If the establishment in which the employee is employed is covered under the Shops & Commercial Establishments Act, then the wage/salary paid to each employee is considered as paid for all days of the month (including the weekly offs and the Paid Holidays), and therefore, the paid holidays falling during the leave sanctioned and utilized will be counted as days of leave.
However, if the employee is employed in an establishment covered under the Factories Act, then the wage/salary is considered as paid for 26 days (excluding the weekly offs and paid holidays). Under such conditions, the leave sanctioned and utilized by the employee will have to exclude the weekly offs and the paid holidays falling during the period of leave.
If your organization has framed rules providing different treatment, I will only say that the rules cannot reduce the benefits provided by the legislation.
Your question concerns as much the statutory provisions as it concerns the company Leave Rules!
Regards,
Samvedan
August 27, 2006
From India, Pune
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Thank you, Mr. Samdevan,
I would like to have clarification on Maternity leave. According to the Maternity Act, females are eligible to take paid leave for maternity for 84 days if they have worked for greater than or equal to 80 days. However, I have seen in some companies that they only provide Maternity Leave if the female has worked for not less than 10 months.
My company is small with only 50 employees and is 3-4 years old. We have not registered for any acts or benefits such as PF, ESI, etc. at this time. In such a case, one of my colleagues working in our private company for 5-6 months wants to know about her Maternity Leave.
According to management, they feel that paying for 84 days of leave is high at this stage. Since she has only worked for 5-6 months and has already taken 20 days of leave during her working days, what would be suggested at this time? Can you explain what is right and why some companies have distinctions in their policies?
From India, Pune
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I would like to have clarification on Maternity leave. According to the Maternity Act, females are eligible to take paid leave for maternity for 84 days if they have worked for greater than or equal to 80 days. However, I have seen in some companies that they only provide Maternity Leave if the female has worked for not less than 10 months.
My company is small with only 50 employees and is 3-4 years old. We have not registered for any acts or benefits such as PF, ESI, etc. at this time. In such a case, one of my colleagues working in our private company for 5-6 months wants to know about her Maternity Leave.
According to management, they feel that paying for 84 days of leave is high at this stage. Since she has only worked for 5-6 months and has already taken 20 days of leave during her working days, what would be suggested at this time? Can you explain what is right and why some companies have distinctions in their policies?
From India, Pune
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Hi guys,
I kindly request that we do not deviate from the main topic of discussion in this post, as it is causing confusion among other members and obstructing the intended focus of this post. Your advice and input are greatly appreciated, and I value all contributions from forum members at this point.
Cheers :)
Hima
From United Kingdom, London
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I kindly request that we do not deviate from the main topic of discussion in this post, as it is causing confusion among other members and obstructing the intended focus of this post. Your advice and input are greatly appreciated, and I value all contributions from forum members at this point.
Cheers :)
Hima
From United Kingdom, London
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