Hello,
I am posting a PPT on Blue Ocean Strategy. I hope it is useful to all. As usual, people are required to shamelessly download all files without rating or comments. Be discourteous and rude; no one will ever know. Keep downloading.
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Octavious
For various links to my posts, kindly visit the links provided below:
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580I am posting a PPT on Blue Ocean Strategy. I hope it is useful to all. As usual, people are required to shamelessly download all files without rating or comments. Be discourteous and rude; no one will ever know. Keep downloading.
Thank you,
Octavious
For various links to my posts, kindly visit the links provided below:
Major HR Links: Major HR Links
From India, Mumbai
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Thank you, sir.
When I agree with your views, from a person of your caliber, I did not expect these words. Let us do our good work without expecting any comments or good words. We know how wonderful you are. So please refrain from using these words in the future. Let us not jump to conclusions.
From India, Coimbatore
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When I agree with your views, from a person of your caliber, I did not expect these words. Let us do our good work without expecting any comments or good words. We know how wonderful you are. So please refrain from using these words in the future. Let us not jump to conclusions.
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Hello Peer,
You are wrong. I have not written the above statement to receive praise, but to show how many people here truly care about the efforts of others. I have stated the above statement in most of my recent posts. The need was to demonstrate how we, as HR professionals, often forget to respect others and their efforts.
Only maybe five or eight people have commented on my post; the rest have shamelessly downloaded without acknowledgment. In short, I have been able to prove that many in HR have not grasped the essence of the work they perform.
All I wish to do is make people think, not insult, discourage, or seek self-praise. Believe me, I enjoy giving, and when I give, I rarely expect anything in return. However, with just a small word of encouragement, many can perform wonders. Unfortunately, we often forget to provide that.
Thank you,
Octavious
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You are wrong. I have not written the above statement to receive praise, but to show how many people here truly care about the efforts of others. I have stated the above statement in most of my recent posts. The need was to demonstrate how we, as HR professionals, often forget to respect others and their efforts.
Only maybe five or eight people have commented on my post; the rest have shamelessly downloaded without acknowledgment. In short, I have been able to prove that many in HR have not grasped the essence of the work they perform.
All I wish to do is make people think, not insult, discourage, or seek self-praise. Believe me, I enjoy giving, and when I give, I rarely expect anything in return. However, with just a small word of encouragement, many can perform wonders. Unfortunately, we often forget to provide that.
Thank you,
Octavious
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Hi,
Your comments are valuable. You have made me realize certain things in my life, and I am thankful to you. You can contact me at
. I am a consultant in HR and also an entrepreneur. I like your attitude. Maybe when you come down to Bangalore, let me know, and we will meet. I am waiting for your email.
Thank you.
From India, Bangalore
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Your comments are valuable. You have made me realize certain things in my life, and I am thankful to you. You can contact me at
Thank you.
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Dear Mr. Octavious Its Good. By the by I respect your feelings but... Regards, N. Shankar.
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Hello,
Thank you for your support and comments. I understand your concern as well, Mr. Shanker. I understand what you mean through your "BUT"...
I understand that I may come across as very negative in the above statement made by me, but sometimes negative marketing is the best marketing. I hope the objective gets served, but not without the help of the members herein.
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Octavious
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Thank you for your support and comments. I understand your concern as well, Mr. Shanker. I understand what you mean through your "BUT"...
I understand that I may come across as very negative in the above statement made by me, but sometimes negative marketing is the best marketing. I hope the objective gets served, but not without the help of the members herein.
Thank you,
Octavious
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Dear Octavious,
Even I understand your feelings, but I would like to comment on the same. As you can see on this Citehr, there are more than a thousand people viewing this forum. If each one of them starts to say thank you for each download, what will happen to all this information? Instead of providing information, they will have to just keep on saying thank you to all those people who are contributing for others. So, sooner or later, this site will run out of its capacity.
Liz
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Even I understand your feelings, but I would like to comment on the same. As you can see on this Citehr, there are more than a thousand people viewing this forum. If each one of them starts to say thank you for each download, what will happen to all this information? Instead of providing information, they will have to just keep on saying thank you to all those people who are contributing for others. So, sooner or later, this site will run out of its capacity.
Liz
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Hello,
I wish things were that easy, but I don't think so.
Because, in most of the comments above, all have explained the reason as to why not to say thank you, but a simple thanks or rating (other than Swati...).
I am not saying that the members above have not shown their gratitude. Of course, no doubt they have. But they have also stated certain reasons. What I am trying to say is, I can't, with a single thought line, idea, influence many. But I may cause people to think, and that's the only purpose of the comments along with the post. If you see the views & downloads in comparison with the comments, you will understand what I am trying to convey to you.
All I asked was to develop a simple habit of gratitude and nothing more. Even ratings will do if not comments. All I was trying to explain was the importance of acknowledgment of efforts and gratitude. I have no qualms about views, comments, and ratings on/of my postings, for I am doing something out of choice and not for anything else. And I am happy with what I am doing.
So I hope I have clarified your doubt about my ideas, and your concern about the lack of virtual space, i.e., if all show their gratitude.
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Octavious
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I wish things were that easy, but I don't think so.
Because, in most of the comments above, all have explained the reason as to why not to say thank you, but a simple thanks or rating (other than Swati...).
I am not saying that the members above have not shown their gratitude. Of course, no doubt they have. But they have also stated certain reasons. What I am trying to say is, I can't, with a single thought line, idea, influence many. But I may cause people to think, and that's the only purpose of the comments along with the post. If you see the views & downloads in comparison with the comments, you will understand what I am trying to convey to you.
All I asked was to develop a simple habit of gratitude and nothing more. Even ratings will do if not comments. All I was trying to explain was the importance of acknowledgment of efforts and gratitude. I have no qualms about views, comments, and ratings on/of my postings, for I am doing something out of choice and not for anything else. And I am happy with what I am doing.
So I hope I have clarified your doubt about my ideas, and your concern about the lack of virtual space, i.e., if all show their gratitude.
Thank you,
Octavious
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Hello Sir,
It was a great post as usual. I am still in the learning phase so I'll take some time to digest the facts mentioned. Thanks for sharing.
However, I would like to ask whether Blue Ocean Strategy, being a marketing issue, has any relevance to HR? Or rather, how can Blue Ocean Strategy align with HR?
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Shriya Karve.
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It was a great post as usual. I am still in the learning phase so I'll take some time to digest the facts mentioned. Thanks for sharing.
However, I would like to ask whether Blue Ocean Strategy, being a marketing issue, has any relevance to HR? Or rather, how can Blue Ocean Strategy align with HR?
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Shriya Karve.
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Hello,
Yes, it has relevance. HR is bound to impress the internal customers/consumers on behalf of the management. I mean that HR has to do strong internal marketing with the employees of the organization on behalf of the company/management, so as to create a pleasant and amicable working environment. A prime example is the BPO in Mumbai formerly known as E-Serve.
I hope, Shriya, I have been able to solve your doubt with the limited knowledge I have, as I too am in the learning stage and always will be in the learning stage.
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Octavious
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Yes, it has relevance. HR is bound to impress the internal customers/consumers on behalf of the management. I mean that HR has to do strong internal marketing with the employees of the organization on behalf of the company/management, so as to create a pleasant and amicable working environment. A prime example is the BPO in Mumbai formerly known as E-Serve.
I hope, Shriya, I have been able to solve your doubt with the limited knowledge I have, as I too am in the learning stage and always will be in the learning stage.
Thank you,
Octavious
From India, Mumbai
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Dear Octavious,
At the very outset, let me thank you for sharing knowledge with all. Your post is really nice but not words. It seems you are a marketing guy, not HR. This forum is to share knowledge with each other. It's really praiseworthy that you have posted numerous articles here. But it does not mean by any sense that you would force individuals to give comments on it. If I am not wrong, your purpose of posting was to let everyone gain knowledge through "BLUE OCEAN STRATEGY", the number of downloads seems that you have helped many people. I think that should give you satisfaction. Many of the people are tied up with many kinds of work; they cannot give comments to every post (but that doesn't mean they are intentionally not posting their comments). So, we expect from you not to post such insulting language further in the forum.
Thanks Ipsita
From India, Calcutta
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At the very outset, let me thank you for sharing knowledge with all. Your post is really nice but not words. It seems you are a marketing guy, not HR. This forum is to share knowledge with each other. It's really praiseworthy that you have posted numerous articles here. But it does not mean by any sense that you would force individuals to give comments on it. If I am not wrong, your purpose of posting was to let everyone gain knowledge through "BLUE OCEAN STRATEGY", the number of downloads seems that you have helped many people. I think that should give you satisfaction. Many of the people are tied up with many kinds of work; they cannot give comments to every post (but that doesn't mean they are intentionally not posting their comments). So, we expect from you not to post such insulting language further in the forum.
Thanks Ipsita
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Hi Octavous,
It was a very nice posting. Thanks a lot. Octavious, I saw our anger in the lines you addressed for the site members, but dear, at least you are getting a response and some people are praising you, unlike me. I have posted certain queries where people have not even bothered to look, not talking of any response. It's fine...
So even you should not feel annoyed, buddy. Just chill and keep posting; you will definitely be acknowledged, if not by site members, then maybe in some other form that you will soon realize...
Bless you.
Warm Regards
From India, Chandigarh
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It was a very nice posting. Thanks a lot. Octavious, I saw our anger in the lines you addressed for the site members, but dear, at least you are getting a response and some people are praising you, unlike me. I have posted certain queries where people have not even bothered to look, not talking of any response. It's fine...
So even you should not feel annoyed, buddy. Just chill and keep posting; you will definitely be acknowledged, if not by site members, then maybe in some other form that you will soon realize...
Bless you.
Warm Regards
From India, Chandigarh
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very informative and statistical but it may be more useful when the pps is a Indian market terminology regards, venkatesh
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Hi Mr. Octavious,
We could really understand your frustrations, but as an HR professional, you should not be so harsh because we are the people who give more importance to the term "attitude." We really appreciate your efforts and knowledge sharing, but nobody really compels anyone for any type of contribution, so whatever you do, do it wholeheartedly. This is my opinion. I'm sorry if I've mentioned anything wrong.
Best wishes,
Prabaharan
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We could really understand your frustrations, but as an HR professional, you should not be so harsh because we are the people who give more importance to the term "attitude." We really appreciate your efforts and knowledge sharing, but nobody really compels anyone for any type of contribution, so whatever you do, do it wholeheartedly. This is my opinion. I'm sorry if I've mentioned anything wrong.
Best wishes,
Prabaharan
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Hi,
Thanks for the post. Your concern towards the replies is true, and a little bit of negative marketing is required at times. However, the same could be a little bit mild and still do the trick, right?
Anyways, I didn't find a way to use it as I have already read the book. For someone who has not read it, it would not be of great help as the concept is not so easy to understand.
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B.K. Manas
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Thanks for the post. Your concern towards the replies is true, and a little bit of negative marketing is required at times. However, the same could be a little bit mild and still do the trick, right?
Anyways, I didn't find a way to use it as I have already read the book. For someone who has not read it, it would not be of great help as the concept is not so easy to understand.
Regards,
B.K. Manas
From India
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Dear Octavious,
I have seen a lot of information posted by you on this site, have greedily used it, and have thanked you each time I used it... though like you rightly mentioned, not publicly... Thank you.
Regards,
Nayana Chander
From India, Pune
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I have seen a lot of information posted by you on this site, have greedily used it, and have thanked you each time I used it... though like you rightly mentioned, not publicly... Thank you.
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Nayana Chander
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Hello,
Nobody compelled anybody in this forum to download the file, but all of you are doing the same out of your choice. I don't feel I am wrong, and if any person who feels I am wrong, then kindly do not show any association with me.
To be a good HR professional, one needs to have good listening skills and an eye for details, not just an MBA degree.
Further, to clarify my stand and to make my critics understand, I am providing you with a link. I would request all interested individuals to visit the same. [The link has been removed.]
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Octtavious
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Nobody compelled anybody in this forum to download the file, but all of you are doing the same out of your choice. I don't feel I am wrong, and if any person who feels I am wrong, then kindly do not show any association with me.
To be a good HR professional, one needs to have good listening skills and an eye for details, not just an MBA degree.
Further, to clarify my stand and to make my critics understand, I am providing you with a link. I would request all interested individuals to visit the same. [The link has been removed.]
Thank you,
Octtavious
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Hello,
I am not looking for any praise from anyone for any of my postings. Kindly read the comment that Rakhi has made on my post. Who are you arguing for, the bad or the good? To be a good HR professional, one needs an eye for details and good listening skills, not just an MBA degree. After the initial posts, most of the people have commented on the topic without even understanding my views and comments.
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Octavious
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I am not looking for any praise from anyone for any of my postings. Kindly read the comment that Rakhi has made on my post. Who are you arguing for, the bad or the good? To be a good HR professional, one needs an eye for details and good listening skills, not just an MBA degree. After the initial posts, most of the people have commented on the topic without even understanding my views and comments.
Thank you,
Octavious
From India, Mumbai
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Hi Octavious, I did not understand the presentation of the blue ocean startegy. wat does it signify and for what purposes are they used Thanks, Sandeep
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Hello,
"Blue Ocean Strategy" is a book written by W. Chan Kim and Renée. The strategy talks about how a proper strategic approach can make competition irrelevant. The strategy is basically used in marketing, but the same concept can be applied in the HR field. The book also discusses how to create a blue ocean environment.
The current style and strategy adopted by companies in the market is referred to as the "Red Ocean." The Blue Ocean Strategy represents an evolution of a new approach and strategy to make any company strong enough to not be bothered by competition. One of the key factors in the Blue Ocean Strategy is "value innovation."
Various tools are utilized in the Blue Ocean Strategy, and it is essential to have a comprehensive understanding of these tools before implementing them. The tools used in the Blue Ocean Strategy also have applications in Six Sigma. "Funky Business" and "Sensational Strategy" are some ideas similar to the Blue Ocean Strategy.
I hope I have provided you with some insight into the Blue Ocean Strategy.
Thank you,
Octavious
From India, Mumbai
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"Blue Ocean Strategy" is a book written by W. Chan Kim and Renée. The strategy talks about how a proper strategic approach can make competition irrelevant. The strategy is basically used in marketing, but the same concept can be applied in the HR field. The book also discusses how to create a blue ocean environment.
The current style and strategy adopted by companies in the market is referred to as the "Red Ocean." The Blue Ocean Strategy represents an evolution of a new approach and strategy to make any company strong enough to not be bothered by competition. One of the key factors in the Blue Ocean Strategy is "value innovation."
Various tools are utilized in the Blue Ocean Strategy, and it is essential to have a comprehensive understanding of these tools before implementing them. The tools used in the Blue Ocean Strategy also have applications in Six Sigma. "Funky Business" and "Sensational Strategy" are some ideas similar to the Blue Ocean Strategy.
I hope I have provided you with some insight into the Blue Ocean Strategy.
Thank you,
Octavious
From India, Mumbai
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nice one....... I appreciate your work. It hurts when we post something but don’t get any update out of the post ......but its not an negative marketing. Regards Debajyoti
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Good one, Octavious!
I do agree that people need to post their comments or show their gratitude when they download some info posted by someone.
I also urge the senior members to respond to the queries posted under the "Talk to Seniors" column. Often, I see a lot of queries left unanswered for months.
Also, the new members should be taught how to search for any info before posting such repeated requests in the forum. If they are not taught, then they surely cannot be blamed for posting the query which looks repetitive to the others.
I agree completely with this statement of yours, Octavious: "LOTS OF YOUNG BUDDING HR PROFESSIONALS JOIN THIS GROUP EVERY DAY IN THE HOPE THAT THEY WILL RECEIVE GUIDANCE OR ANSWERS TO THEIR QUERIES OR APPRECIATION FOR THEIR WORK." If we are not able to meet their expectations, then the very purpose of CiteHR gets defeated.
As members of this community, we should never let that happen. We should help each other. Thank each other. No excuses made. We should pledge ourselves that if we come across a query for which we have the resources to answer, we should answer immediately no matter how small the query is. This attitude of ours will create a healthy culture in CiteHR. We sweat our days in the office trying to grow a good culture in the place we work. Why can't we try to maintain the same in this forum?
Hope other members do agree to it. :) If any of my words have hurt anyone, please note it was purely unintentional.
Regards,
~Raghav V
From India, Kochi
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I do agree that people need to post their comments or show their gratitude when they download some info posted by someone.
I also urge the senior members to respond to the queries posted under the "Talk to Seniors" column. Often, I see a lot of queries left unanswered for months.
Also, the new members should be taught how to search for any info before posting such repeated requests in the forum. If they are not taught, then they surely cannot be blamed for posting the query which looks repetitive to the others.
I agree completely with this statement of yours, Octavious: "LOTS OF YOUNG BUDDING HR PROFESSIONALS JOIN THIS GROUP EVERY DAY IN THE HOPE THAT THEY WILL RECEIVE GUIDANCE OR ANSWERS TO THEIR QUERIES OR APPRECIATION FOR THEIR WORK." If we are not able to meet their expectations, then the very purpose of CiteHR gets defeated.
As members of this community, we should never let that happen. We should help each other. Thank each other. No excuses made. We should pledge ourselves that if we come across a query for which we have the resources to answer, we should answer immediately no matter how small the query is. This attitude of ours will create a healthy culture in CiteHR. We sweat our days in the office trying to grow a good culture in the place we work. Why can't we try to maintain the same in this forum?
Hope other members do agree to it. :) If any of my words have hurt anyone, please note it was purely unintentional.
Regards,
~Raghav V
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My god, you are quite irritated. In this ocean of people, there are many who must have silently prayed for you and thanked you a million times when they received what they were looking for from the posts and material you have uploaded. Not everybody comments, Mr. Octavious, but that doesn't mean they are rude or shameless. You have unknowingly disregarded their feelings entirely.
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Hello,
I don't know who and what gave the idea that I am arguing for myself. I have time in and out total all that. I seek no appreciations but I am putting a stand for people who are not appreciated for their efforts. I have already cleared my stand in the comments here; please read. Next time, do not comment on anything without understanding anything in complete essence.
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Octavious
From India, Mumbai
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I don't know who and what gave the idea that I am arguing for myself. I have time in and out total all that. I seek no appreciations but I am putting a stand for people who are not appreciated for their efforts. I have already cleared my stand in the comments here; please read. Next time, do not comment on anything without understanding anything in complete essence.
Thank you,
Octavious
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Hello,
Thank you to all the members herein for understanding my cause and supporting the same.
I am also thankful to my critics, for they are my stepping stones to success. It is my critics who challenge me to prove myself better than the last effort I made. If it were not for my critics, I would have never been able to perform better each passing day. In the zeal to prove my critics wrong, I have delivered better results than I usually would have in an unchallenged situation.
I have certain points to highlight here, and they are as follows:
1. I have made a strong statement in my post and have clearly stated the outcome I wish for. Nowhere have I requested empathy, sympathy, or any advice.
2. Instead of understanding my requirement, I have been provided with unsolicited advice, thus creating an unnecessary argument over a simple matter.
3. I had given two options: to download shamelessly or download with your views/rating, but some members herein took a third option I never provided, which is giving unsolicited advice and guidance.
4. Some members herein have advised on the topic without even reading or understanding the principle or the sublime message behind the post and commands there too.
For the above post, I feel that as HR professionals, we have not done justice to our profession because as HR, we are supposed to:
1. Not complicate things.
2. Be patient listeners.
3. Have an eye for details.
4. Observe rules and guidelines.
5. Not rush to provide options/solutions/advice when waiting for the matter to settle would be more than enough.
I would apologize to all members herein who might have been hurt by my strong/shrewd remarks. But the same was required to get my cause to the people of the forum.
I would request all the members to understand that next time, if you like a post or article, kindly rate it or drop a comment. The person who uploads the post for you to enjoy would have had to spend time and efforts to entertain you. So, be humane and spare a moment to give a word of appreciation to the person for his/her efforts.
I would repeat that I don't require any appreciation, but there are others who desire and deserve the appreciation, so please make it a point to appreciate others.
The entire purpose of the post was to highlight that we are forgetting to appreciate others for their efforts. I was in no way trying to get people to comment on my post or gather appreciations.
I apologize once again for the hard words spoken and dignity hurt by me in the process of proving a rightful cause.
Comments on the post herein are requested to be avoided, as the post has served its purpose (i.e., highlighting the need to appreciate the efforts of others).
Thank you for your time, patience, and cooperation.
Much obliged,
Octavious
"The bad things in life open your eyes to the good things you weren't paying attention to."
From India, Mumbai
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Thank you to all the members herein for understanding my cause and supporting the same.
I am also thankful to my critics, for they are my stepping stones to success. It is my critics who challenge me to prove myself better than the last effort I made. If it were not for my critics, I would have never been able to perform better each passing day. In the zeal to prove my critics wrong, I have delivered better results than I usually would have in an unchallenged situation.
I have certain points to highlight here, and they are as follows:
1. I have made a strong statement in my post and have clearly stated the outcome I wish for. Nowhere have I requested empathy, sympathy, or any advice.
2. Instead of understanding my requirement, I have been provided with unsolicited advice, thus creating an unnecessary argument over a simple matter.
3. I had given two options: to download shamelessly or download with your views/rating, but some members herein took a third option I never provided, which is giving unsolicited advice and guidance.
4. Some members herein have advised on the topic without even reading or understanding the principle or the sublime message behind the post and commands there too.
For the above post, I feel that as HR professionals, we have not done justice to our profession because as HR, we are supposed to:
1. Not complicate things.
2. Be patient listeners.
3. Have an eye for details.
4. Observe rules and guidelines.
5. Not rush to provide options/solutions/advice when waiting for the matter to settle would be more than enough.
I would apologize to all members herein who might have been hurt by my strong/shrewd remarks. But the same was required to get my cause to the people of the forum.
I would request all the members to understand that next time, if you like a post or article, kindly rate it or drop a comment. The person who uploads the post for you to enjoy would have had to spend time and efforts to entertain you. So, be humane and spare a moment to give a word of appreciation to the person for his/her efforts.
I would repeat that I don't require any appreciation, but there are others who desire and deserve the appreciation, so please make it a point to appreciate others.
The entire purpose of the post was to highlight that we are forgetting to appreciate others for their efforts. I was in no way trying to get people to comment on my post or gather appreciations.
I apologize once again for the hard words spoken and dignity hurt by me in the process of proving a rightful cause.
Comments on the post herein are requested to be avoided, as the post has served its purpose (i.e., highlighting the need to appreciate the efforts of others).
Thank you for your time, patience, and cooperation.
Much obliged,
Octavious
"The bad things in life open your eyes to the good things you weren't paying attention to."
From India, Mumbai
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That was rude, Octavius... extremely rude! No one has asked you to post stuff out here. You have done so of your own volition. You are not the only one who indulges in knowledge sharing; we all do or are in the process of doing so. If I could, I would give you the lowest rating for lack of courtesy.
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Hello,
It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not.
Thank you, and keep posting. Post comments when you are sober. Emotions at times cloud practicality and logic. Please re-read my post and then comment.
Thank you,
Octavius
From India, Mumbai
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It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not.
Thank you, and keep posting. Post comments when you are sober. Emotions at times cloud practicality and logic. Please re-read my post and then comment.
Thank you,
Octavius
From India, Mumbai
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Hello,
The way of least resistance rarely leads to success. I stood up for what I believed was right, and after constant resistance, I have achieved what I wished to highlight.
I would once again apologize to all who have been hurt in my zealous efforts to highlight certain issues. But let me also thank all, for you have all directly or indirectly served the purpose of highlighting the issue. Kindly do not take anything personally.
So, I would request you to kindly not post any comments on the topic. Please follow the link and give your views. Thank you.
Octavious
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The way of least resistance rarely leads to success. I stood up for what I believed was right, and after constant resistance, I have achieved what I wished to highlight.
I would once again apologize to all who have been hurt in my zealous efforts to highlight certain issues. But let me also thank all, for you have all directly or indirectly served the purpose of highlighting the issue. Kindly do not take anything personally.
So, I would request you to kindly not post any comments on the topic. Please follow the link and give your views. Thank you.
Octavious
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Hi Octavius,
Oh my, my, my, my... I neither have the time nor inclination to fight for a futile cause. Do us all a favor, join yoga classes! It will surely relax you. Learn to live life simply. As an HR person, one shouldn't complicate matters. I agree. So, practice what you preach!
If you don't like unsolicited "advice" from people, then also don't give it. Learn to take feedback, then force your "cause" on others, or at least learn to use professional language. How on earth were you able to cook up such an email? I don't want to compete with you on this; you win hands down. Happy?
I completely agree with Ms. Ipsita when she says that you have used foul language in the forum, so you should get a taste of your own medicine.
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Oh my, my, my, my... I neither have the time nor inclination to fight for a futile cause. Do us all a favor, join yoga classes! It will surely relax you. Learn to live life simply. As an HR person, one shouldn't complicate matters. I agree. So, practice what you preach!
If you don't like unsolicited "advice" from people, then also don't give it. Learn to take feedback, then force your "cause" on others, or at least learn to use professional language. How on earth were you able to cook up such an email? I don't want to compete with you on this; you win hands down. Happy?
I completely agree with Ms. Ipsita when she says that you have used foul language in the forum, so you should get a taste of your own medicine.
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Hello,
There is a Chinese proverb:
"Never wrestle with pigs, they take you down to dirt."
I decline to comment on any and all further comments by you on my post.
I don't know which school you went to that taught you that the word "shameless" is a slang. As per the Oxford Dictionary, the word shameless means impudent or having or knowing no shame. Nowhere has it been mentioned that it is a slang.
How can a person who is least bothered about other members and their problems talk about professionalism?
Why are you so agitated for Ipsita, when she herself has maintained her calm and cool? Especially when you say that you are least bothered about the problems of the members of the forum. Strange!
Regarding joining yoga, good suggestion. But I would like to tell you that I don't take directions from someone who themselves can't understand directions. I have requested not to post further comments, but you still continued.
About "I winning," I am sorry to say, I never considered you competition. But I would back out now so as not to lead comments in the public forum beyond the realms of sanity.
You may comment as much as you wish; I will not reply anymore to any of your remarks or comments, as there is a limitation to intelligence and there isn't any to idiocy, and I have reached my limits.
You, in your rage, have stooped so low that your comments themselves state their caliber. On close scrutiny, any person of common prudence would understand who lacks maturity, culture, and professionalism.
I consider you an intelligent and mature person, so I once again request you to stop posting further comments and act sensibly and maturely. Kindly stop this useless argument; you have conveyed your views, and I have noted the same.
The post has already served its purpose, and I have apologized to all whom I had hurt in the process of trying to put my point across. I feel no further need to clarify anything to anyone.
I won't reply to any of your remarks or comments.
Thank you,
Octavious
From India, Mumbai
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There is a Chinese proverb:
"Never wrestle with pigs, they take you down to dirt."
I decline to comment on any and all further comments by you on my post.
I don't know which school you went to that taught you that the word "shameless" is a slang. As per the Oxford Dictionary, the word shameless means impudent or having or knowing no shame. Nowhere has it been mentioned that it is a slang.
How can a person who is least bothered about other members and their problems talk about professionalism?
Why are you so agitated for Ipsita, when she herself has maintained her calm and cool? Especially when you say that you are least bothered about the problems of the members of the forum. Strange!
Regarding joining yoga, good suggestion. But I would like to tell you that I don't take directions from someone who themselves can't understand directions. I have requested not to post further comments, but you still continued.
About "I winning," I am sorry to say, I never considered you competition. But I would back out now so as not to lead comments in the public forum beyond the realms of sanity.
You may comment as much as you wish; I will not reply anymore to any of your remarks or comments, as there is a limitation to intelligence and there isn't any to idiocy, and I have reached my limits.
You, in your rage, have stooped so low that your comments themselves state their caliber. On close scrutiny, any person of common prudence would understand who lacks maturity, culture, and professionalism.
I consider you an intelligent and mature person, so I once again request you to stop posting further comments and act sensibly and maturely. Kindly stop this useless argument; you have conveyed your views, and I have noted the same.
The post has already served its purpose, and I have apologized to all whom I had hurt in the process of trying to put my point across. I feel no further need to clarify anything to anyone.
I won't reply to any of your remarks or comments.
Thank you,
Octavious
From India, Mumbai
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Cool down, Octavious. You know what? I don't think anyone else, except me, would bother to read your literary genius. Stop it, dude. I am here to pick up my knowledge, not stoop to your level and indulge in mudslinging. I rest my case. Seriously, you need to cool down. If you need any help, let me know, Octavious!
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One more thing, if you want to call me a pug, have the guts to tell me that to my face. People who live in glass houses should not throw stones. It is beyond my dignity to even interact with someone of your mentality. Take care, Octavious.
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Hi, just want to share this with you. You are doing a great job, but I might be wrong. I would request you to kindly stop using those words in the public forum. We all learn and grow by experiences, and knowledge grows by sharing and shrinks if kept within. You are doing a great thing, but please stop using those words.
Regards, Rajeshwar Y.
From India
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From India
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Hi OCTAVIUS!
Like Liz said, it's not possible to write thank you notes every time we share/use knowledge. Some people do it every time they read it, though silently like me. GRATITUDE & THANKS. Keep up the good work.
All of us, though, who say silent prayers: God Bless you & keep sharing whatever is good about you. That's life. Thank you from the core of my heart for sharing the wisdom & knowledge.
From India, New Delhi
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Like Liz said, it's not possible to write thank you notes every time we share/use knowledge. Some people do it every time they read it, though silently like me. GRATITUDE & THANKS. Keep up the good work.
All of us, though, who say silent prayers: God Bless you & keep sharing whatever is good about you. That's life. Thank you from the core of my heart for sharing the wisdom & knowledge.
From India, New Delhi
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Dear sir,
I couldn't download the article. However, I feel from your message that the words used were so harsh that they may hurt the readers.
Moreover, sir, I want to say that the HR person should be self-motivated and should derive energy from within themselves through their achievements. Negative marketing will not help in the long run. We, as budding managers, are learning from you, so I request you to avoid making such statements.
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Mona
From India, Madras
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I couldn't download the article. However, I feel from your message that the words used were so harsh that they may hurt the readers.
Moreover, sir, I want to say that the HR person should be self-motivated and should derive energy from within themselves through their achievements. Negative marketing will not help in the long run. We, as budding managers, are learning from you, so I request you to avoid making such statements.
Regards,
Mona
From India, Madras
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Dear Friend,Very Very useful for every one. Keep posting such ppt and articles .Regards,PBS KUMAR
From India, Kakinada
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From India, Kakinada
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Sir,
I am posting one article - "Jannat Kahaan ??? ... Jannat Yahaaan!!!" in the motivation section. Do appreciate your sharings - people will download whatever is posted on the site - it is for sharing - we need not worry about the same. Your PPS was very good.
Thanks
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I am posting one article - "Jannat Kahaan ??? ... Jannat Yahaaan!!!" in the motivation section. Do appreciate your sharings - people will download whatever is posted on the site - it is for sharing - we need not worry about the same. Your PPS was very good.
Thanks
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Thank you for the wonderful sharing.
We cannot stop sharing good things, even if they are not acknowledged by our own communities (HR - people). Of course, this is a very sad part, but I presume that all the downloaders are so engulfed in such interesting things that they forget their basic skills of acknowledging and appreciating the good.
Anyway, thank you once again. Please keep on sharing and spreading the good.
Divyang
From India, Vadodara
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We cannot stop sharing good things, even if they are not acknowledged by our own communities (HR - people). Of course, this is a very sad part, but I presume that all the downloaders are so engulfed in such interesting things that they forget their basic skills of acknowledging and appreciating the good.
Anyway, thank you once again. Please keep on sharing and spreading the good.
Divyang
From India, Vadodara
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morning hr’s, citehr is not for debating or to justify what is right nor wrong, it is just to share and gather information like a win win situation. :-x:-x:-x
From India, Madras
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From India, Madras
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Dear OCTAVIOUS,
First of all, kudos on making the effort to create such good presentations. I presume not everyone is adept at surfing the net! You are providing a great service to our HR community by sharing these valuable documents, presentations, and materials. It requires great patience and a focused mind to do what you do.
However, it may not be fair to label all downloaders as thankless; they do recognize the effort put in, hence they are part of this portal community. On behalf of all those who have simply been benefiting from your hard work, I want to thank you for the tremendous interest you show in reaching out to the HR community.
Ramesh
From India, Chennai
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First of all, kudos on making the effort to create such good presentations. I presume not everyone is adept at surfing the net! You are providing a great service to our HR community by sharing these valuable documents, presentations, and materials. It requires great patience and a focused mind to do what you do.
However, it may not be fair to label all downloaders as thankless; they do recognize the effort put in, hence they are part of this portal community. On behalf of all those who have simply been benefiting from your hard work, I want to thank you for the tremendous interest you show in reaching out to the HR community.
Ramesh
From India, Chennai
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Dear all I came across on such presentation on Blue ocean strategy. Hope the same is useful and please enjoy downloading the same Ramesh
From India, Chennai
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From India, Chennai
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Dear Sir,
Your serious concerns are appreciated. I have seen many contributions of yours in the past for this site but never encountered such harsh words. Anyhow, thank you for sharing your knowledge. As always, your input is valued.
Best regards, [Your Name]
From India, Jodhpur
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Your serious concerns are appreciated. I have seen many contributions of yours in the past for this site but never encountered such harsh words. Anyhow, thank you for sharing your knowledge. As always, your input is valued.
Best regards, [Your Name]
From India, Jodhpur
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Dear Octavious,
If the members are downloading your post, this means that they are indirectly appreciating your caliber and intelligence, and automatically showing gratitude by doing so. However, it really hurts the trust of the members. Members on citehr are always curious about your posts. This does not mean that you have to use complex words in your content. Being a super moderator member on citehr, you should be more humble like PBS Kumar, Peer M, and many more. Always keep in mind that big names and powers come with more responsibilities.
Thanks and all the best in the future.
From India, Solon
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If the members are downloading your post, this means that they are indirectly appreciating your caliber and intelligence, and automatically showing gratitude by doing so. However, it really hurts the trust of the members. Members on citehr are always curious about your posts. This does not mean that you have to use complex words in your content. Being a super moderator member on citehr, you should be more humble like PBS Kumar, Peer M, and many more. Always keep in mind that big names and powers come with more responsibilities.
Thanks and all the best in the future.
From India, Solon
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Dear All,
First of all, I would like to appreciate Mr. Octavious for his contribution and his concern for all the Citehr members.
Also, I am adding a contribution to Mr. Octavious's posts regarding Blue Ocean Strategy.
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Ankit
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From India, Mumbai
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First of all, I would like to appreciate Mr. Octavious for his contribution and his concern for all the Citehr members.
Also, I am adding a contribution to Mr. Octavious's posts regarding Blue Ocean Strategy.
Regards,
Ankit
09869851356
From India, Mumbai
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Hi, I am one of those that your comments have been directed towards. I have downloaded a lot but have not stopped much to thank you and others who have freely given. But it is not for the reasons you have stated, although you are partly right. Basically, my laptop's processing speed and time online don't allow me to stay long after the day's work before I start dozing off to sleep. However, I rest assured that I appreciate the sharing of materials and the good intentions behind it. I am of a similar frame of mind and intention to share and upload what I have. Just that you have to allow for some time as I find my way around and adjust.
And just to add further, beyond HRM is the principle of giving and sharing without expecting much in return. I know we are in a business world that preaches competitiveness, but look at the global financial crises and its capitalism based on competition and greed. Where has it reached and the negative impacts spiraling across the world at this moment? Even the EU Nations are meeting and talking about overhauling the system. They use the phrase "immoral capitalism," so what you are doing is pure, even if a few of us appreciate your actions. Usually, it is the few and not the many that will save the world. Keep the faith, bro.
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And just to add further, beyond HRM is the principle of giving and sharing without expecting much in return. I know we are in a business world that preaches competitiveness, but look at the global financial crises and its capitalism based on competition and greed. Where has it reached and the negative impacts spiraling across the world at this moment? Even the EU Nations are meeting and talking about overhauling the system. They use the phrase "immoral capitalism," so what you are doing is pure, even if a few of us appreciate your actions. Usually, it is the few and not the many that will save the world. Keep the faith, bro.
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Many things that we use in our day-to-day life are not recognized as "strategy". We follow them; "Blue Ocean Strategy" could be said to be a low-risk strategy. Indeed, one of those day-to-day strategies of the common man (not to fight for each silly thing). Really, it is a great tool at the corporate level. Thanks for sharing and also making others react to it.
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Hi Octavious,
You should not be so sensitive about people downloading without rating or showing appreciation. It seems that you're biased towards having a dominant personality yet with a sense of urgency. Such types usually seek to have the credit for a job done. If you're a part of a team (which I doubt it), may God help the team you're working with.
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Bigmem
From United States, Fremont
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You should not be so sensitive about people downloading without rating or showing appreciation. It seems that you're biased towards having a dominant personality yet with a sense of urgency. Such types usually seek to have the credit for a job done. If you're a part of a team (which I doubt it), may God help the team you're working with.
Regards,
Bigmem
From United States, Fremont
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Dear Sir,
We agree with your views as a presenter always felt that someone shall criticize/appraise the work. The quality of the presentation depends on delivery, and no one can imitate the essence of work unless they have worked on it.
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Ishrat
From India, Nagpur
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We agree with your views as a presenter always felt that someone shall criticize/appraise the work. The quality of the presentation depends on delivery, and no one can imitate the essence of work unless they have worked on it.
Regards,
Ishrat
From India, Nagpur
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Hi Arun,
I can't open the PowerPoint presentation.
Regards,
Arun
For various links to my posts, kindly visit the links provided below:
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From India, Mumbai
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I can't open the PowerPoint presentation.
Regards,
Arun
For various links to my posts, kindly visit the links provided below:
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Dear Octavious,
I can understand the feeling one would have when people read through your post, download the article, and not even share a comment. But then, will it be right on the part of the author to make strong statements without thinking about what the reader would feel? Isn't writing strong words as unsporty as not sharing comments? Though I know that everyone has his own way of dealing with issues, as a reader of your post, I never felt that the intention of your post was to help but rather to insult. Giving without expecting anything in return is what makes the act of giving meaningful. Otherwise, it's a business...
My intention with this post is not to hurt your feelings or that of anyone else in this forum, but my perception of this forum is where people come together and learn by sharing... Correct me if I am wrong.
Thanks for the post anyway.
Regards,
Arun
From India, Bangalore
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I can understand the feeling one would have when people read through your post, download the article, and not even share a comment. But then, will it be right on the part of the author to make strong statements without thinking about what the reader would feel? Isn't writing strong words as unsporty as not sharing comments? Though I know that everyone has his own way of dealing with issues, as a reader of your post, I never felt that the intention of your post was to help but rather to insult. Giving without expecting anything in return is what makes the act of giving meaningful. Otherwise, it's a business...
My intention with this post is not to hurt your feelings or that of anyone else in this forum, but my perception of this forum is where people come together and learn by sharing... Correct me if I am wrong.
Thanks for the post anyway.
Regards,
Arun
From India, Bangalore
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Dear Sir,
I have gone through your posting, and it's truly wonderful. I personally appreciate you for sharing such valuable information. Regarding your remarks, I am confident that many of us understand your feelings and recognize the effort it takes to compile and share such valuable information.
However, writing such a harsh statement just to gauge how many people realize and care about your efforts is not expected from an experienced, senior, and sensible HR Professional. Making these kinds of statements clearly reflects a narrow and negative attitude hidden within an individual. As an experienced professional, I hope you will sincerely refrain from using such rude words in the future and work on changing this negative attitude.
Regards,
Mohammed Ibrahim
From India, Hyderabad
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I have gone through your posting, and it's truly wonderful. I personally appreciate you for sharing such valuable information. Regarding your remarks, I am confident that many of us understand your feelings and recognize the effort it takes to compile and share such valuable information.
However, writing such a harsh statement just to gauge how many people realize and care about your efforts is not expected from an experienced, senior, and sensible HR Professional. Making these kinds of statements clearly reflects a narrow and negative attitude hidden within an individual. As an experienced professional, I hope you will sincerely refrain from using such rude words in the future and work on changing this negative attitude.
Regards,
Mohammed Ibrahim
From India, Hyderabad
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Hey Octavious, Nice Post. Keep Sharing and keep making others learn... Give whatever good you have without expecting anything from others...those who value will definetly respond. Cheers:-P,
From India, Mumbai
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From India, Mumbai
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Hi Octavious,
You have given a wonderful update on several interesting facts and popular practices in HR. As rightly stated by you, not many would practice information sharing as you do. However, having said that, I personally believe that the more you share, the more you achieve in multifolds.
Good work, buddy, and all the very best to you!
Regards,
Sapna
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You have given a wonderful update on several interesting facts and popular practices in HR. As rightly stated by you, not many would practice information sharing as you do. However, having said that, I personally believe that the more you share, the more you achieve in multifolds.
Good work, buddy, and all the very best to you!
Regards,
Sapna
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Hello Sir, The ppt is short & sweet.but the comments are Khatta & ....., anyway good presentation.
From India, Delhi
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From India, Delhi
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Dear Octavious,
You have done a wonderful job of compilation and sharing it with all of us. This is really a nice effort, and I am heartily wishing you all the very best! Don't forget, this is also a quality of an HR manager to be calm and cool. Sometimes people take advantage of you, but sooner or later, you will definitely benefit from all this. Today, for the first time, I am seeing all your sharing. I must say thanks from all those who have downloaded your attachments. And one more thing, your name is a bit unique... Octavious! Good job, keep it up buddy!
Kind regards, [Your Name]
From India, Delhi
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You have done a wonderful job of compilation and sharing it with all of us. This is really a nice effort, and I am heartily wishing you all the very best! Don't forget, this is also a quality of an HR manager to be calm and cool. Sometimes people take advantage of you, but sooner or later, you will definitely benefit from all this. Today, for the first time, I am seeing all your sharing. I must say thanks from all those who have downloaded your attachments. And one more thing, your name is a bit unique... Octavious! Good job, keep it up buddy!
Kind regards, [Your Name]
From India, Delhi
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Dear Octavious,
We are indeed thankful for your posts, which are actually helpful. However, as Mr. Peer has rightly said, we should not expect or demand... Anyways, we are thankful to you.
But there is a sincere request: please be sure not to write everything in bold. That is somewhat rude, isn't it, sir?
Regards,
From India, Cuttack
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We are indeed thankful for your posts, which are actually helpful. However, as Mr. Peer has rightly said, we should not expect or demand... Anyways, we are thankful to you.
But there is a sincere request: please be sure not to write everything in bold. That is somewhat rude, isn't it, sir?
Regards,
From India, Cuttack
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Thanks, Octavious. I like your posts and I want to let you know that I try reading all your posts. They are very informative and practical in their approach.
However, I am still trying to understand this PPT as, like many others, I am trying to look at it from an HR perspective. From a business perspective, I somehow grasp it, which apparently seems more useful for Marketing.
Thanks again.
SRJ
From India, Mumbai
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However, I am still trying to understand this PPT as, like many others, I am trying to look at it from an HR perspective. From a business perspective, I somehow grasp it, which apparently seems more useful for Marketing.
Thanks again.
SRJ
From India, Mumbai
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I would still believe in "Neki kar dariya me daal". I would never make someone realize the good things I did for him/her. An effort, if acknowledged, is very good, but to demand something lessens its gravity! An effort done only to be acknowledged and appreciated doesn't have the same value at all. The fact that people downloaded it is, in itself, an appreciation or so I would like to think.
By the way, thanks for this, Octavious! This is my view!
From India, Pune
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By the way, thanks for this, Octavious! This is my view!
From India, Pune
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