Respected Senior (Prashanth),
Thank you for your comments. After joining this organization, I felt this is the issue that needs to be addressed first because there are only a few senior members, and the rest all have 2-3 years of experience. Like when we were kids, we tried to imitate what grown-ups used to do, in the same fashion, they try to imitate the seniors.
Your advice to do something positive for the seniors will be very helpful for me. They already have the liberty to come to the office late, take as many as 30 holidays a year, and they are getting fat packages. When I invite them to give training to the juniors so that they feel special, they refuse, saying that they don't have time in hand. Sometimes I fail to understand what else I can do for them.
I will be highly obliged if you can suggest to me what positive things I can do for them. I am trying to mingle with them and get into their shoes to see what else they want from the company or what their grievances are, but then again, that is going to take a little time.
Keep posting.
Thanks and Regards,
Indrani Chakraborty
From India, Pune
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3Thank you for your comments. After joining this organization, I felt this is the issue that needs to be addressed first because there are only a few senior members, and the rest all have 2-3 years of experience. Like when we were kids, we tried to imitate what grown-ups used to do, in the same fashion, they try to imitate the seniors.
Your advice to do something positive for the seniors will be very helpful for me. They already have the liberty to come to the office late, take as many as 30 holidays a year, and they are getting fat packages. When I invite them to give training to the juniors so that they feel special, they refuse, saying that they don't have time in hand. Sometimes I fail to understand what else I can do for them.
I will be highly obliged if you can suggest to me what positive things I can do for them. I am trying to mingle with them and get into their shoes to see what else they want from the company or what their grievances are, but then again, that is going to take a little time.
Keep posting.
Thanks and Regards,
Indrani Chakraborty
From India, Pune
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Hi Indrani,
Ok, so you are working with those senior guys. Good. As I mentioned, your strategy should have been customized to your organization. I need to know more about your organization. Could you tell me how long you have been with this organization? Have you identified any issues that they are not happy with?
Prashanth
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Ok, so you are working with those senior guys. Good. As I mentioned, your strategy should have been customized to your organization. I need to know more about your organization. Could you tell me how long you have been with this organization? Have you identified any issues that they are not happy with?
Prashanth
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Hi,
Let me tell you how I solved the problem in my office. I had exactly 5 seniors who were considered as the foundation of the organization and were very strong. I was new in this organization, and believe it or not, they had even objected to having an HR in the organization. However, when I joined, all gave me polite smiles, but later on, I got the news from grapevine sources. Believe me, I tried to involve them in my process of changing the organization's policies.
I believe that if you give the robber the keys to the house and guard it, he will never rob your house. This was my strategy which worked, and I wish it works for you too. All the best.
Regards, Karuuna
From India, Mumbai
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Let me tell you how I solved the problem in my office. I had exactly 5 seniors who were considered as the foundation of the organization and were very strong. I was new in this organization, and believe it or not, they had even objected to having an HR in the organization. However, when I joined, all gave me polite smiles, but later on, I got the news from grapevine sources. Believe me, I tried to involve them in my process of changing the organization's policies.
I believe that if you give the robber the keys to the house and guard it, he will never rob your house. This was my strategy which worked, and I wish it works for you too. All the best.
Regards, Karuuna
From India, Mumbai
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Hi, Indrani,
This is really a common issue in many industries. In fact, I have also encountered this in my professional life. Handling this type of problem depends on certain factors. It involves how people will perceive it, and how management will respond, which will be influenced by the outcome of your efforts. Sending an email is a good idea as it ensures you have done your part by reminding others. When we are new in an organization, especially in a lower or middle position, we may need to remind others of their mistakes, and the rest will be taken care of by our seniors.
Could you please update me on your decision and how you plan to address this?
Regards,
Amith R.
From India, Bangalore
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This is really a common issue in many industries. In fact, I have also encountered this in my professional life. Handling this type of problem depends on certain factors. It involves how people will perceive it, and how management will respond, which will be influenced by the outcome of your efforts. Sending an email is a good idea as it ensures you have done your part by reminding others. When we are new in an organization, especially in a lower or middle position, we may need to remind others of their mistakes, and the rest will be taken care of by our seniors.
Could you please update me on your decision and how you plan to address this?
Regards,
Amith R.
From India, Bangalore
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Hi Indrani,
(I hope this works for you)
In today's world, nobody listens to you even if it is politely said. However, there are other ways to tackle such situations. If you have to tell them individually, that's the wrong approach. What can you do? Just have a look:
1. Create a specific ID (here I'm talking about an official ID that can be used for all employees' communication only).
2. Send an all-employee email for any such communication (from the above ID) so that you don't have to approach everybody.
3. Your department head should be the signatory.
This will indirectly solve your purpose. If it is within your work profile, you should handle such things by simply addressing all employees.
(Only for reference, this is the appropriate way to communicate your message: #189613)
Regards,
Deepa
From India, Gurgaon
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(I hope this works for you)
In today's world, nobody listens to you even if it is politely said. However, there are other ways to tackle such situations. If you have to tell them individually, that's the wrong approach. What can you do? Just have a look:
1. Create a specific ID (here I'm talking about an official ID that can be used for all employees' communication only).
2. Send an all-employee email for any such communication (from the above ID) so that you don't have to approach everybody.
3. Your department head should be the signatory.
This will indirectly solve your purpose. If it is within your work profile, you should handle such things by simply addressing all employees.
(Only for reference, this is the appropriate way to communicate your message: #189613)
Regards,
Deepa
From India, Gurgaon
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well what do our senior members have to say in this case,,, or is it that cite hr is full of only juniors like us... I would like some senior member to guide us, as to why they behave like this,,
From India, Pune
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I have faced a similar problem in the organization, and the approach I took was a little different. I became very friendly with these "seniors", had very often chats with them over coffee, and used to praise them (they are praiseworthy too). I used to tell them that they are role models for many in the organization, and juniors do respect them and tactfully told them to fill in the attendance register, etc., which really worked. You will have to have patience as they may not listen to you initially.
All the best, Maria
From India, Bangalore
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All the best, Maria
From India, Bangalore
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Hi Indrani,
Please write a memo to all regarding the attendance system as a part of streamlining the entire organization. Include these points and send a cc to your immediate boss or the director. Next day, make sure that all will adhere to it strictly. Keep informing them of the consequences if they do not comply.
Best regards,
BC
From India, Mumbai
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Please write a memo to all regarding the attendance system as a part of streamlining the entire organization. Include these points and send a cc to your immediate boss or the director. Next day, make sure that all will adhere to it strictly. Keep informing them of the consequences if they do not comply.
Best regards,
BC
From India, Mumbai
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Dear Friends,
All your views are correct. I too have faced the same issue, of course. Finally, I solved it smoothly through the management itself by way of Chanakya's idea. First, you should adopt a friendly approach, build a strong rapport with your colleagues who may be opposed to certain individuals. Every management relies on Production and Accounts personnel. Therefore, coordinate with those departments and then address the issues by explaining them to the management. This approach should help in resolving your problems.
Regards,
:wink:
PBS KUMAR
From India, Kakinada
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All your views are correct. I too have faced the same issue, of course. Finally, I solved it smoothly through the management itself by way of Chanakya's idea. First, you should adopt a friendly approach, build a strong rapport with your colleagues who may be opposed to certain individuals. Every management relies on Production and Accounts personnel. Therefore, coordinate with those departments and then address the issues by explaining them to the management. This approach should help in resolving your problems.
Regards,
:wink:
PBS KUMAR
From India, Kakinada
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Indrani,
It's not the problem at your company only. The problem is everywhere these days. In my company, senior people always tried to break the basic rules and regulations. But, being HR, as a strict disciplinarian, you should politely approach them to follow the rules and convince them to do so, so that their juniors can follow suit. Indirectly, tell them, "Discipline is the sign of human beings, and indiscipline is the sign of animals." Try to handle it with tact. When talking to those senior team members, don't request them, but rather, tell them that they are not abiding by the rules, which is really bad. You have to convince them; you can't force them initially, as you are seeking their help sometimes (as you mentioned).
Thanks,
Dev
From India, Gurgaon
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It's not the problem at your company only. The problem is everywhere these days. In my company, senior people always tried to break the basic rules and regulations. But, being HR, as a strict disciplinarian, you should politely approach them to follow the rules and convince them to do so, so that their juniors can follow suit. Indirectly, tell them, "Discipline is the sign of human beings, and indiscipline is the sign of animals." Try to handle it with tact. When talking to those senior team members, don't request them, but rather, tell them that they are not abiding by the rules, which is really bad. You have to convince them; you can't force them initially, as you are seeking their help sometimes (as you mentioned).
Thanks,
Dev
From India, Gurgaon
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