Dear All,

Can anybody help me? I worked with a company from April '09 to July '12. Every month, they deducted Rs. 780/- from my salary as PF. I have resigned from this company and want to withdraw my PF amount. However, the company has paid PF only up to April '12 to the government. Please help me calculate my PF withdrawal amount.

Regards,
Vikas Ranawade

From India, Mumbai
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Dear Vikas,

If your previous employer has not deposited PF contributions in the government account, this is their fault. Simply visit your ex-employer's office and approach the accounts or HR department to initiate the necessary formalities for your PF withdrawal. If you encounter any issues, proceed directly to the relevant PF office and narrate your full story with all the details to the Public Relations Officer (PRO) at the EPF office.

From India, Mumbai
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Dear Sir,

If your previous employer has not deposited PF contributions in the government account, this is his fault. Simply visit your ex-employer's office and approach the accounts or HR department to complete the necessary formalities for your PF withdrawal. In case you encounter any issues, proceed directly to the relevant PF office and provide a detailed account of your situation to the Public Relations Officer at the EPF office.

But, could you assist me in calculating my PF amount up to March 12?

Thank you.

From India, Mumbai
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Dear [Recipient],

Do you know your PF account number? If yes, you can visit the EPF website and click on the link "Member EPF Balance."

Apr-09 780 780 1560 May-09 780 780 1560 Jun-09 780 780 1560 Jul-09 780 780 1560 Aug-09 780 780 1560 Sep-09 780 780 1560 Oct-09 780 780 1560 Nov-09 780 780 1560 Dec-09 780 780 1560 Jan-10 780 780 1560 Feb-10 780 780 1560 Mar-10 780 780 1560 Apr-10 780 780 1560 May-10 780 780 1560 Jun-10 780 780 1560 Jul-10 780 780 1560 Aug-10 780 780 1560 Sep-10 780 780 1560 Oct-10 780 780 1560 Nov-10 780 780 1560 Dec-10 780 780 1560 Jan-11 780 780 1560 Feb-11 780 780 1560 Mar-11 780 780 1560 Apr-11 780 780 1560 May-11 780 780 1560 Jun-11 780 780 1560 Jul-11 780 780 1560 Aug-11 780 780 1560 Sep-11 780 780 1560 Oct-11 780 780 1560 Nov-11 780 780 1560 Dec-11 780 780 1560 Jan-12 780 780 1560 Feb-12 780 780 1560 Mar-12 780 780 1560 56160

From India, Jaipur
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hi MY PF a/c No is MP/IND/017995/0381. How to check my balance. How to withdraw my PF amount.
From India, Indore
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Dear Pooja,

You need to visit the EPF website. There is an option to check your EPF balance. Click on it and enter your details along with your mobile number. You will receive an SMS showing your PF balance within 5-10 minutes.

Regards,
Vikas Ranawade

From India, Mumbai
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I tried this, but it is showing data not available. Now, what should I do?

Thank you.

From India, Indore
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then you need to contact to your Employer. Might they have uploaded wrong data while generating monthly challan or in return filling. Regards, Vikas.
From India, Mumbai
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I worked there only for 7 months. And while leaving I asked for this PF no. and after reading your theard I tried to check my balance. Can you try it once. May be I am doing something wrong
From India, Indore
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Dear then no balance in your pf amount bcz ur form 3a not submit so now u can use member portal beta version in epf website and u can generate ur epf passbook kindly visit
From India, Jaipur
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Dear Pooja,

The EPFO has introduced online services on a regular basis from March 2012 onwards. It may be that your employer has not yet deposited the contribution. Please check it with the EPFO website using the following link: [Epfo (Govt. of India)](http://www.epfindia.com). Then search for the Establishment Code either by entering the Establishment code or by its name, and proceed to search for the subscribers' contributed contribution monthly. By checking this, you will be able to know whether the contribution has been deposited or not.

Thanks
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R B Yadav

From India, Gurugram
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My Company’s name is Metal Profiles in Indore. I tried this .............but what should be the next step. Not able to find out whether company as paid this Chalans or not
From India, Indore
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I have received these details. What should be the next step for me?

Thank you.

From India, Indore
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Dear Pooja,

As per the statements of EPFO, your closing balance as of 18th Jan 2013 is as follows:

PF account - Employee share Rs. 3197 + Employer share Rs. 978, totaling Rs. 4175 in PF account.

Pension account - Rs. 2219.

You can withdraw the balance in the PF account by filling Form 19 and getting it attested by your previous employer or a gazetted officer. This form is to be submitted to the PF office along with Form 3A provided by your previous employer.

To withdraw the balance in the Pension account, one must have worked for at least 1 year. Form 10C needs to be filled out to withdraw benefits under the Pension scheme.

However, it is recommended that you transfer this PF account in case of new employment by filling out Form 13 with the new employer. The new employer will make arrangements for the transfer of this PF account.

Upon completing 10 years of contributory service (PF Contribution), one becomes eligible for a pension upon reaching the age of 58 years.

Regards,
Suresh

From India, Bangalore
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Hi All,

Can I withdraw this pension fund now or not? If yes, what should be the next step? If not, then suggest the right way. In this company, my salary is $18,000 in hand, but I don't want to go for the PF ESI scheme. I don't want the withdrawal headache.

From India, Indore
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We used Form 3A for what purpose? In my company, we had lots of PF issues. I am very new to PF/ESIC cases and don't have a good grasp of the basics. I think in my company we have not paid the Challan for the past year. I have only the Account/Slip numbers of employees. Employees who have left the company do not have any funds. I also don't know how to deposit the Challan, when to deposit it, how to maintain a tracker for official internal use, and how to apply for ESI/PF. I am familiar with the calculation part only. I have read many threads but do not have a clear picture. I have not filled any forms so I don't have any sample forms. Please help me to overcome these issues.

My director wants me to break down the salary into different aspects, but he does not want DA. He considers HRA and other allowances. He wants other slabs where income tax is applicable. He was asking something related to tuition fees, which is a major task. He is also asking for Internship Policies. For staff's fresher, we are hiring them as interns, which helps in ESI/PF cases. However, he asked me what we can do for mechanics, helpers, or experienced staff because he wants most employees to be exempt from PF. Can we include incentives for mechanics in the salary slabs? Lots of questions?

From India, Indore
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Dear Form 3 A is use in Pf Annual return, detail month wise deduction of pf amt salary structure u can use these structure Basic H.R.A CCA Conv. All Edu. All.
From India, Jaipur
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Dear Pooja,

In order to withdraw benefits under PF & pension scheme, the employee should not be in employment. That is, when you change jobs, you can withdraw the amount after 60 days of your last day (Resignation) in the company. In case the employee finds a job within 60 days of resignation, it is recommended by PF authorities to transfer the account to the new employer. Many employees do withdraw their PF amount immediately after a job change. However, such withdrawal of PF amount is not recommended by PF authorities.

If one desires exclusion from PF contributions, it happens only when Basic + DA is more than Rs 6500. After a change in employment, the employee can withdraw the benefits under PF & Pension Scheme by filling Form 19 & 10C respectively. Then, while joining the new company, if the employee desires exclusion from PF contributions, they can fill Form 11.

Please note: PF exclusion is possible only when the salary Basic + DA is more than Rs 6500. If the salary Basic + DA is less than Rs 6500, then PF contribution is mandatory. In any of the above cases, once contribution begins with a new employer, the employee cannot stop PF contributions irrespective of salary.

Regards,

Suresh

From India, Bangalore
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Dear Suresh, In my case can I withdraw pension fund. I have PF /ESI only of 7 months. My PF sheet is attached here. So what should I do now. Plz see that attachment once. Thanks
From India, Indore
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Dear Pooja,

Yes. For withdrawing Pension amount, one has to work for a minimum period of six months or more. In your case, it is seven months, and you are eligible to withdraw the Pension amount provided that you have not transferred this PF account to the present employer. You can fill Form 10C to withdraw the Pension amount and opt for withdrawal benefits instead of a Scheme Certificate. Employees whose gross salary is more than Rs. 15,000 are exempted from ESI contributions.

Regards,
Suresh

From India, Bangalore
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Dear Pooja ji,

It seems to me that you have joined another employment within 60 days after leaving the earlier one. If your present employer is covered under the EPF Act, you have no option to withdraw your earlier PF but to transfer it to your present account with the new employer by filing Form 13. With the new employer, you do not have the option of being an "excluded employee" within the meaning of this Act.

From India, Mumbai
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We have here PF option but I don’t want to get into that . All these takes too much time while withdrawal, So don’t want to transfer my account.
From India, Indore
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For pf withdraw u must submit in pf office form-10 form-19c form-5 form-10 form-3a if current year contribution attested with previous employer or gazted officer
From India, Jaipur
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Rightly said by Mr. Keshav.

@ Ms. Pooja: If you have joined a new employer within sixty days of leaving your previous employer, it is recommended that you transfer your PF account to the new employer by filling out Form 13. Once the PF contribution begins in the new company, there is no way for exemption from PF, regardless of your salary.

One can withdraw the PF amount only after 60 days of resignation, provided that the employee has not been employed by the new company. After withdrawing the PF amount (the employee ceases to be a member of PF), the employee can get an exemption from PF in the new company, provided that their salary Basic+DA is more than Rs. 6500. The employee has to declare in Form 11 for exemption from PF that they have withdrawn the PF amount, in which case they cease to be a member of PF.

Regards, Suresh

From India, Bangalore
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Thanks a lot making it very clear for me.......... I will take care of this thing. In case I find any difficulty I will discuss it. Thanks a lot...........
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