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View Poll Results: IT IS POSSIBLE TO PAY ONLY EMPLOYEE SHARE IN PF CHALLAN?
YES 36 43.37%
NO 47 56.63%
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I have a question related to PF challan.

(1) Is it possible to pay only the worker's share for PF in the monthly challan through "e-return tools"?

(2) If the PF deduction for staff is 20% and for workers is 12%, how can I prepare a text file through "e-return tools" for ECR upload? If you have any guidelines, please suggest them to me.

Thank you

From India, Surat
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Dear chirag, It is easy, if you generate txt file by e-returns tool than when you feed basic wages than you go direct voluntary share column its near ncp days.
From India, Calcutta
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In our establishment, the employee staff deduction is 20%, and the employer adds 20%. For workers, the deduction is 12%, and the employer adds 12%. You suggest adding a voluntary share, but it's only for employees, not for employer deduction.


From India, Surat
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Employee can contribute above 12% as VPF but Employer not bound to contribute on same VPF %, Employer just contribute on 12%.
From India, Jaipur
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What you want actually, I am unable to understand. PF act and rules are the same for all; we cannot change them according to our own choice. Simply put, if you give 12% of the basic (like 10,000 basic), it would be 1200 (12%), 659 (3.67%), and 541 (8.33%). This is the e-return calculation.
From India, Calcutta
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sorry dear but our establishment all ready have permission to deduct 20% + 20% since 1989
From India, Surat
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(1)it is possible to pay only worker share for pf in monthly challan through "e return tools"?????????
From India, Surat
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Dear Chirag Shah,

If you use third-party software like EPF Management Software 4.0, all your problems will be solved. The software can be downloaded from the following website NexTech Software Solutions, Software Development, Website Designing direct link for the software - www.nextechss.com/epf40installer.exe

From India, Nagpur
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The definition of contribution is that the contribution of an employee is equal to the contribution payable by an employer. The employer can restrict the contributions for the wages to Rs.6500/-, i.e., Rs.780/- (12% of Rs.6500/-), and the deduction from the employee is Rs.780/-. Another option is that the employee can contribute over and above 12% as a voluntary contribution, and the employer will pay 12% for Rs.6500/-. The next option is that both the employee and employer can pay over and above 12%, and the employer cannot discriminate the contributions from member to member, such as staff and worker, since all are employees and the rule is the same for both.
From India, Chennai
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Dear chirag you need to download epfo software from epfo site. Installation manual is also available there just feed the data n generate theECR file.
From India, Bangalore
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Dear Chirag,

I think you have to pay both employee and employer shares. You need to download EPFO software from the EPFO site. The installation manual is also available there. Install it and just feed 12% & 20% contributions and generate the ECR file.

From India, Bangalore
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no its not necessary to use e return tools for monthly,, u can use your own format(excel , other softwer etc ) but main thing is that your text file generate as per ecr format given by epfo
From India, Surat
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Dear Chirag,

It is possible to pay only the employee's share. Along with the employee's share, you have to pay some portion of administrative charges and EDLI charges. In the ECR file, make other columns like EPS, employer's share, etc. to zero and upload the file. As suggested by Mr. Anil Kumar, you can prepare two challans, one for the employee and another one for the staff.

Regards,
S. Ganapathy

From India, Coimbatore
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It is mandatory under the EPF scheme to deposit employees' contributions along with employers' contributions; otherwise, non-deposit of employers' contributions will attract a penalty.

Regarding e-returns, I am not conversant, so I am unable to comment.

From India, Bhopal
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Dear Members/Seniors,

I also have a doubt, and I hope that you can help me with this matter. At the time of initial registration, the Employer made a mistake in entering the Employee Code number and entered the wages. The ECR file was uploaded in March 2012. From April 2012 onwards, the wages were inserted using the actual/original code number. It has now come to light that although the Employer is depositing the contributions under the Employee's original number, the amount is being deposited under a different number due to the mistake made in March 2012.

Is it possible to correct the Employee's code number now? If so, how can this be done? Your advice on this matter would be greatly appreciated.

Regards

From India, Raurkela
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