Realy its a very-very sad. for the prevention from such a things, not happen in future, gov. of India must think more seriously.
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Dear All,
I thank for the comments posted by every individual.
Based on whatever I saw on TV and whatever was published in the newspapers, I think there can be two legal deviations by the Hospital Authorities:
1. Following the National Building Code.
2. Explosives Act.
In India, both of them are in place.
According to me, it is the responsibility of every enterprise to obey the Health and Safety rules and regulations.
If somebody is offering a bribe, he is the major culprit.
We, as citizens of this country, have to encourage legal working.
I am a strong believer in the phrase "improvement begins with me."
To justify my thoughts, I can give some real-life examples where I tried to follow legal aspects:
1. When I was about to go to a dentist, I asked him how he disposes of the biomedical waste. In two cases, the dentists were not aware of the disposal requirements. I did not go to them. The third one, although a little farther away, was aware and complying. I went to that dentist.
2. The PUC requirement for 2/4 wheelers is compulsory as per the Motor Vehicle Act. I suggested to our management to have a PUC checkup camp. We negotiated better rates, and the facility was made available to all our employees at discounted rates. As a result, about 1000+ 2/4 wheelers were checked for emission levels; at least 10% were exceeding the norms. The owners of these vehicles were motivated to get servicing done and get the PUC again.
Later, the repeat camp was held exactly before the expiry of the previous camp.
We received an overwhelming response. The law was followed, reducing the opportunities for corruption.
3. I have never allowed my relatives to drive 2/4 wheelers. First, I made it compulsory for them to get a license, and then they were allowed to drive.
4. The effluent parameters and stack emission checks are started on a monthly basis. The samples that the State Pollution Board collects every month, another set of samples from the same batch is given to a CPCB approved lab. In case there are differences, we write a letter to the PCB.
5. Although the emission/stack reports are okay, we have further made improvements in the plants and submitted a letter on the improvements made to the PCB. This was a proactive step taken.
6. I was fortunate to visit some Eastern and Western countries. The main difference in road transport is the use of lights and horns. We hardly hear the horns in these countries, and they never use upper lights during traveling by car/bus. (In India, "HORN PLEASE" is written on every truck.)
When I drive a car, I try to use horns as minimally as possible and use dipper at night.
If we think of compliance for ourselves and in our area of influence, it is okay. The person who works in the EHS department is well aware of compliances. I appeal to all to have 100% compliance, thereby reducing opportunities for corruption.
Regards,
Sudhir
From India, Vadodara
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1310I thank for the comments posted by every individual.
Based on whatever I saw on TV and whatever was published in the newspapers, I think there can be two legal deviations by the Hospital Authorities:
1. Following the National Building Code.
2. Explosives Act.
In India, both of them are in place.
According to me, it is the responsibility of every enterprise to obey the Health and Safety rules and regulations.
If somebody is offering a bribe, he is the major culprit.
We, as citizens of this country, have to encourage legal working.
I am a strong believer in the phrase "improvement begins with me."
To justify my thoughts, I can give some real-life examples where I tried to follow legal aspects:
1. When I was about to go to a dentist, I asked him how he disposes of the biomedical waste. In two cases, the dentists were not aware of the disposal requirements. I did not go to them. The third one, although a little farther away, was aware and complying. I went to that dentist.
2. The PUC requirement for 2/4 wheelers is compulsory as per the Motor Vehicle Act. I suggested to our management to have a PUC checkup camp. We negotiated better rates, and the facility was made available to all our employees at discounted rates. As a result, about 1000+ 2/4 wheelers were checked for emission levels; at least 10% were exceeding the norms. The owners of these vehicles were motivated to get servicing done and get the PUC again.
Later, the repeat camp was held exactly before the expiry of the previous camp.
We received an overwhelming response. The law was followed, reducing the opportunities for corruption.
3. I have never allowed my relatives to drive 2/4 wheelers. First, I made it compulsory for them to get a license, and then they were allowed to drive.
4. The effluent parameters and stack emission checks are started on a monthly basis. The samples that the State Pollution Board collects every month, another set of samples from the same batch is given to a CPCB approved lab. In case there are differences, we write a letter to the PCB.
5. Although the emission/stack reports are okay, we have further made improvements in the plants and submitted a letter on the improvements made to the PCB. This was a proactive step taken.
6. I was fortunate to visit some Eastern and Western countries. The main difference in road transport is the use of lights and horns. We hardly hear the horns in these countries, and they never use upper lights during traveling by car/bus. (In India, "HORN PLEASE" is written on every truck.)
When I drive a car, I try to use horns as minimally as possible and use dipper at night.
If we think of compliance for ourselves and in our area of influence, it is okay. The person who works in the EHS department is well aware of compliances. I appeal to all to have 100% compliance, thereby reducing opportunities for corruption.
Regards,
Sudhir
From India, Vadodara
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It was very horrible incident which took place in Kolkata hospital.more than 90 peoples were died in it. guilty persons must be send behind the bars.
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Dear Bhaskar,
We have all standard rules in our country (but it will not cover 100% safety of public). The problem is who followed the rules see the link 83 children killed in school fire in Kumbakonam after this incident our government stringent the rules then lot of schools and theaters was closed due to Improper license (Its one of the biggest theater in Coimbatore KG I am sure its not 100% compliance but they got license from government how its possible…???). This is the exact status of our country.
See the attached both links another example:
Chennai Saravana Stores Fire Accident on Sep 1,2008 - YouTube
Articles about Saravana Stores - Times Of India - Still they are running the store I hope they have license but I am 100% sure they are incompliance . . .
My opinion is very sorry to say government employees not doing his job perfectly I am not mean all our GE.
From United States, Fpo
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We have all standard rules in our country (but it will not cover 100% safety of public). The problem is who followed the rules see the link 83 children killed in school fire in Kumbakonam after this incident our government stringent the rules then lot of schools and theaters was closed due to Improper license (Its one of the biggest theater in Coimbatore KG I am sure its not 100% compliance but they got license from government how its possible…???). This is the exact status of our country.
See the attached both links another example:
Chennai Saravana Stores Fire Accident on Sep 1,2008 - YouTube
Articles about Saravana Stores - Times Of India - Still they are running the store I hope they have license but I am 100% sure they are incompliance . . .
My opinion is very sorry to say government employees not doing his job perfectly I am not mean all our GE.
From United States, Fpo
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it’s really a very sad news, as the State government has given the order to seal the hospitals,can any body share in that case what would happen with the employees are associated with hospitals and what all liabilities the employer has towards employees
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Very sad to hear about such a painful incident. Patients visit hospitals for disease recoveries, but to see the same hospital being responsible for such a miserable incident is disheartening. Why was the management so careless? It clearly shows their negligence. Keep sharing such incidents.
From United States, Englewood
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Dear Friend Every individual has to take initiation to implement or follow our acts, rules and regulations to prevent incidents .
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Dear All
Sharing the below news with all of you which I got from Mr. Altaf Hussain over mail... Really it's shameful news even for our country...Thanks Altaf for sharing the news...
"I was surprised when I read this news….
Fire extinguisher! What is that? - The Times of India
Fire extinguisher! What is that?
Sunitha, TNN | Dec 11, 2011, 03.33AM IST
BANGALORE: This is one of the most preferred government hospitals in the South Bangalore, because of its well equipped dialysis centre and Intensive care unit. But ask about fire safety, everyone draws a blank at the Jayanagar General hospital.
The 300 hundred bedded hospital, that has about 450 outpatients visiting the hospital every day, does not have a single fire extinguisher in its campus spread across 7.6 hectares of land.
"We do not have fire extinguishers. After the fire accident in Kolkata’s private hospital, we are worried about the fire safety here. Frequent monitoring and training is required to make the hospital safe for fire break ups. We have identifies ten places in the hospital where fire extinguishers must be placed. A proposal on the same will be sent to the State Health and Family Welfare department. It would cost about Rs 1.5 lakh," said Dr K Nagaraj, Medical Superintendent of the hospital. No fire drills have also been conducted in the hospital so far."
If any of the Indian Govt. Legel enforcement authorities are reading these discussions; request to wake up and take strict actions against these violations...
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Sharing the below news with all of you which I got from Mr. Altaf Hussain over mail... Really it's shameful news even for our country...Thanks Altaf for sharing the news...
"I was surprised when I read this news….
Fire extinguisher! What is that? - The Times of India
Fire extinguisher! What is that?
Sunitha, TNN | Dec 11, 2011, 03.33AM IST
BANGALORE: This is one of the most preferred government hospitals in the South Bangalore, because of its well equipped dialysis centre and Intensive care unit. But ask about fire safety, everyone draws a blank at the Jayanagar General hospital.
The 300 hundred bedded hospital, that has about 450 outpatients visiting the hospital every day, does not have a single fire extinguisher in its campus spread across 7.6 hectares of land.
"We do not have fire extinguishers. After the fire accident in Kolkata’s private hospital, we are worried about the fire safety here. Frequent monitoring and training is required to make the hospital safe for fire break ups. We have identifies ten places in the hospital where fire extinguishers must be placed. A proposal on the same will be sent to the State Health and Family Welfare department. It would cost about Rs 1.5 lakh," said Dr K Nagaraj, Medical Superintendent of the hospital. No fire drills have also been conducted in the hospital so far."
If any of the Indian Govt. Legel enforcement authorities are reading these discussions; request to wake up and take strict actions against these violations...
From India
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Dear Sir,
Thanks for your detailed reply... it's really good sort of thinking and initiatives from your side. If all of us start thinking in this manner and if the Industrialists start looking at safety as one of their business values, surely change will come in the upcoming days. Let's hope for the best and prepare for the worst...
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Thanks for your detailed reply... it's really good sort of thinking and initiatives from your side. If all of us start thinking in this manner and if the Industrialists start looking at safety as one of their business values, surely change will come in the upcoming days. Let's hope for the best and prepare for the worst...
From India
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Dear All,
Thanks for sharing your views on this thread. I believe that engaging in these discussions on this forum may not bring about significant change in the current scenario in India. However, my primary goal is for each of us as individuals to pledge to do our best in our respective roles to prevent accidents.
Now, everything depends on how the government enforces the existing laws. Let's wait with the hope that better times are on the horizon.
Thanks to all once again.
From India
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Thanks for sharing your views on this thread. I believe that engaging in these discussions on this forum may not bring about significant change in the current scenario in India. However, my primary goal is for each of us as individuals to pledge to do our best in our respective roles to prevent accidents.
Now, everything depends on how the government enforces the existing laws. Let's wait with the hope that better times are on the horizon.
Thanks to all once again.
From India
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