Hello guys i need some advice from you🙏🏻.
I am starting a Pvt ltd company, My question is I have to appoint 20 employees but my company will not make a profit for 8 to 10 month but I still have to pay to employees then what is the limit of salary by rules I can pay them
From India, Pune
I am starting a Pvt ltd company, My question is I have to appoint 20 employees but my company will not make a profit for 8 to 10 month but I still have to pay to employees then what is the limit of salary by rules I can pay them
From India, Pune
You can start your activities by complying with the minimum wages notified by the State Govt. for your industry and as per the skill levels of the employees being inducted. In addition, you need to comply with PF & ESI Scheme, Labour Welfare Fund & Professional Tax requirements as is applicable. So prepare proper estimate on all these factors and you have ensured the required legal compliances. You may plan accordingly
From India, Mumbai
1534From India, Mumbai
If you have registered your company, the next steps would be planning, organizing, directing, and controlling. As far as HR is concerned, based on the state in which you operate, there are a number of rules to be followed. Compliance is a big deal in India to run any business smoothly. At times, people may find it easy to make profit but tough to fulfill compliance requirements.
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From India, Bangalore
Recommend a quikfix for you. With this you will get expert advice, a reliable platform to store employee data, manage salaries, take care of compliance, and all sorts of reports. You might have heard about greytHR. It is one of the most popular online HR Payroll Solution for Small Businesses and Startups. There is a starter plan (Free plan with limited features) and probably it suits you for the next 10 months. In case of advanced requirements, you can upgrade to higher plans, anytime.
From India, Bangalore
You need to pay your staff and workers salary that is above the minimum wages specified for your industry in your state. Note that this is revised every 6 months and you need to pay the higher wages as soon as they become applicable.
In addition, you will need to pay Overtime if they work beyond 9 hours a day or 48 hours a week. They are entitled to bonus @ 8.33% of Basic + DA, payable once a year (8 months from end of the financial year) and you also need to pay statutory dues (PF, ESIC, PT)
Please note that you may not be able to get people to work for you at minimum wages, you need to check the market wages for your industry.
From India, Mumbai
In addition, you will need to pay Overtime if they work beyond 9 hours a day or 48 hours a week. They are entitled to bonus @ 8.33% of Basic + DA, payable once a year (8 months from end of the financial year) and you also need to pay statutory dues (PF, ESIC, PT)
Please note that you may not be able to get people to work for you at minimum wages, you need to check the market wages for your industry.
From India, Mumbai
Dear Colleague,
As rightly guided by our Colleagues, you need to pay the Statutory Minimum Wages under the provisions of The Minimum Wages Act 1948 applicable to your nature of Industry. Check whether you are able to get Talents for this wages level. You need to mandatorily cover the employees for PF and ESI.
What best possible is that you may have a mix of Work force like Regular employees who have experience and support your business from day one ( pay them slightly more than minimum wages of Minimum Wages Act) + Few Probationers for one year ( pay then minimum Wages exactly or consolidated pay not less than minimum wages ) + Few Apprentices or Trainees on Stipend basis for one year( stipend may be less than Minimum Wages). In second year these Trainees can become Probationers and then to regular in the 3rd year. This mix will give you some cost advantage till your reach your break-evens and to stabilize your business. You may also take few Off Roll option by paying minimum wages through Manpower Agencies ( contract arrangement) for those activities which are essential but not brining revenue to your business or non-core to your business.
All the very best for your successful endeavor and success.
From India, Chennai
As rightly guided by our Colleagues, you need to pay the Statutory Minimum Wages under the provisions of The Minimum Wages Act 1948 applicable to your nature of Industry. Check whether you are able to get Talents for this wages level. You need to mandatorily cover the employees for PF and ESI.
What best possible is that you may have a mix of Work force like Regular employees who have experience and support your business from day one ( pay them slightly more than minimum wages of Minimum Wages Act) + Few Probationers for one year ( pay then minimum Wages exactly or consolidated pay not less than minimum wages ) + Few Apprentices or Trainees on Stipend basis for one year( stipend may be less than Minimum Wages). In second year these Trainees can become Probationers and then to regular in the 3rd year. This mix will give you some cost advantage till your reach your break-evens and to stabilize your business. You may also take few Off Roll option by paying minimum wages through Manpower Agencies ( contract arrangement) for those activities which are essential but not brining revenue to your business or non-core to your business.
All the very best for your successful endeavor and success.
From India, Chennai
The emoluments and entitlements that an employee must get depends on type of business you are doing and should be at par with government rules and regulations under various applicable laws.
Min wages, DA spl allowances,Hra, epf esic, Mlwf,Leave with wages, bonus, other fri ge benefits as applicable will give you an idea to arrive at ctc of employees.
You can take the help of business consultants in this regard.
From India, Vadodara
Min wages, DA spl allowances,Hra, epf esic, Mlwf,Leave with wages, bonus, other fri ge benefits as applicable will give you an idea to arrive at ctc of employees.
You can take the help of business consultants in this regard.
From India, Vadodara
Dear "Anonymous' CitHr Member,
Nothing more needs to be said than what our expert contributing members have noted their opinions above. As for me, I appreciate most the comments of Dr. P. Sivakumar as it demonstrates the best solution.
At the same time I would request Mr/Ms Anonymous to validate the comments of contributing members who have dedicated their valuable time and expertise for you. You posted your thread on 12.01.2022 but till date i.e. 19.01.2022 you have not validated any of the comments. Your validation will be a booster for the contributing experts.
Regards and good wishes,
Chandra Mani Lal Srivastava
Master Consultant 9315516083
New Delhi
From India, New Delhi
Nothing more needs to be said than what our expert contributing members have noted their opinions above. As for me, I appreciate most the comments of Dr. P. Sivakumar as it demonstrates the best solution.
At the same time I would request Mr/Ms Anonymous to validate the comments of contributing members who have dedicated their valuable time and expertise for you. You posted your thread on 12.01.2022 but till date i.e. 19.01.2022 you have not validated any of the comments. Your validation will be a booster for the contributing experts.
Regards and good wishes,
Chandra Mani Lal Srivastava
Master Consultant 9315516083
New Delhi
From India, New Delhi
Hii Sir,
My company is pvt ltd. company and have started a project with one government company in U.P. So they demanded the PF and ESIC details of employee working for their project on monthly basic. There are labors and we paid monthly Gross salary Rs. 11000 to them and the segregation as follows under our company policy:
Basic-4840/-
Grade pay-1320/-
CCA-2915/-
HRA-1265/-
Special Allow.-660/-
Deduction:-
PF-581/-
ESI-83/-
So Net salary we paid will be Rs. 10336/-
But, the govt company denied for this segregation of wages, So please tell me minimum how much gross salary, net and basic I have to paid unskilled labor under min wages act and per day minimum wages is revised in Oct-21 and so I can also maintain the budget of the company for The calculation should ne on 26,30,31 days.
They told to paid min wages Rs. 13000 something according to theirs. What is the basic I have to paid them and make deduction of Pf etc.
Revised per day minimum wages as on Oct-21
Unskilled labor (Area-B)-546/-
Now what is minimum basic, net and gross salary at least I have to maintain per monthly basic under this criteria.
From India, Lalkua
My company is pvt ltd. company and have started a project with one government company in U.P. So they demanded the PF and ESIC details of employee working for their project on monthly basic. There are labors and we paid monthly Gross salary Rs. 11000 to them and the segregation as follows under our company policy:
Basic-4840/-
Grade pay-1320/-
CCA-2915/-
HRA-1265/-
Special Allow.-660/-
Deduction:-
PF-581/-
ESI-83/-
So Net salary we paid will be Rs. 10336/-
But, the govt company denied for this segregation of wages, So please tell me minimum how much gross salary, net and basic I have to paid unskilled labor under min wages act and per day minimum wages is revised in Oct-21 and so I can also maintain the budget of the company for The calculation should ne on 26,30,31 days.
They told to paid min wages Rs. 13000 something according to theirs. What is the basic I have to paid them and make deduction of Pf etc.
Revised per day minimum wages as on Oct-21
Unskilled labor (Area-B)-546/-
Now what is minimum basic, net and gross salary at least I have to maintain per monthly basic under this criteria.
From India, Lalkua
First thing you need to know is that PF is paid not on basic but on full salary excluding HRA, Overtime and other allowances that are specifically for reimbursement of cost of employment and not given to all employees or all employees in a particular a group of employees.
Therefore, on a salary of 11,000, PF will be at 1168 per month
ESIC is on gross wages, so the deduction will be 192.5 per month
If the minimum wages is at ₹ 546 per day, then the monthly salary will be ₹ 14,196. The component breakup will make little difference except for the HRA part. Your PF, ESIC, etc must be paid accordingly.
Incidentally, this is for an 8 hour work shift per day and 6 days of work per week.
From India, Mumbai
Therefore, on a salary of 11,000, PF will be at 1168 per month
ESIC is on gross wages, so the deduction will be 192.5 per month
If the minimum wages is at ₹ 546 per day, then the monthly salary will be ₹ 14,196. The component breakup will make little difference except for the HRA part. Your PF, ESIC, etc must be paid accordingly.
Incidentally, this is for an 8 hour work shift per day and 6 days of work per week.
From India, Mumbai
Dear Ms Soniya-Choudhary,
Welcome to the “Sharing & Learning” forum of Cite HR.
Instead of adding your query in a running discussion, ideally you should put the query with “Start A New Discussion” in which you can properly mentioned subject as well.
Your client (govt company) is absolutely right. You should pay the Basic Salary as per the applicable Minimum Wages. Splitting of Basic (less than Minimum Wages) is not allowed.
You have to pay the PF-ESI and other statutory obligations at least on the Minimum Wages. The Minimum Wages is paid for 26 days (being exclusive of W/off in the month). If any person do duty on Weekly Off or other OT, same has to be paid @ twice rate.
Through the comment it seems your client comes under “Central Govt”, hence insisting to pay Rs. 546 (Area B). Pls check if it is correct, than OK otherwise you are liable to pay UP State Govt Minimum Wages only (which are far lesser than Central Govt.).
The Minimum Wages will be your Gross Wages from which after deducting PF-ESI, LWF, PT you can have Net Salary.
I am attaching both notifications which are applicable wef Oct’21 (UP Govt. and Central Govt).
Hope this will help you to take better decision.
From India, Delhi
Welcome to the “Sharing & Learning” forum of Cite HR.
Instead of adding your query in a running discussion, ideally you should put the query with “Start A New Discussion” in which you can properly mentioned subject as well.
Your client (govt company) is absolutely right. You should pay the Basic Salary as per the applicable Minimum Wages. Splitting of Basic (less than Minimum Wages) is not allowed.
You have to pay the PF-ESI and other statutory obligations at least on the Minimum Wages. The Minimum Wages is paid for 26 days (being exclusive of W/off in the month). If any person do duty on Weekly Off or other OT, same has to be paid @ twice rate.
Through the comment it seems your client comes under “Central Govt”, hence insisting to pay Rs. 546 (Area B). Pls check if it is correct, than OK otherwise you are liable to pay UP State Govt Minimum Wages only (which are far lesser than Central Govt.).
The Minimum Wages will be your Gross Wages from which after deducting PF-ESI, LWF, PT you can have Net Salary.
I am attaching both notifications which are applicable wef Oct’21 (UP Govt. and Central Govt).
Hope this will help you to take better decision.
From India, Delhi
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