I was indecisive between company A and B, and in this indecisiveness, I joined company A and also refused company B. On the first day, I was directly introduced to the team where I logged in (induction was going to happen next week). On the first day, I realized this company is not for me as it was very far from where I lived. I wanted to discontinue working, so I dropped an apologetic email to HR and the Hiring manager stating that the travel time was too much. The angry HR called me, asking me to quit officially and serve a 15-day notice period. However, I begged company B to let me join them next week. I am in a situation where I do not want to abscond, do not want to serve notice, and I want to join company B without fail or issues on time. Please note that I cannot delay joining company B any further. Please advise on what should be done. Is this messier than HR is making it out to be? I understand that this is a lesson for me, but I want to do as much damage control as possible.
Other facts: As no induction happened, the company does not have my bank details or my PF GF forms. The employment/offer letter did mention a 15-day notice period while on probation. However, while accepting the offer, the date mentioned as the employment commencement was of a later date, which they changed later. They did not issue me any access card. I did log into the system and opened Outlook.
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Other facts: As no induction happened, the company does not have my bank details or my PF GF forms. The employment/offer letter did mention a 15-day notice period while on probation. However, while accepting the offer, the date mentioned as the employment commencement was of a later date, which they changed later. They did not issue me any access card. I did log into the system and opened Outlook.
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Dear member,
You have written that "1st day I realized this company is not for me as it was very far from where I lived. I wanted to discontinue working so I dropped an apologetic email to HR and the Hiring Manager that the travel time was too much."
The reason that you have quoted is most displeasing. More than indecisiveness, it shows your juvenility. Well before accepting the offer letter, you should have calculated the commuting time from your home to the office. Epiphany on the long commuting time on the first working day smacks of an unprofessional approach. Any HR is bound to get angry at your "apologetic mail." Do you know what it takes to recruit a person?
In fact, your HR was too lenient by telling you to serve a 15-day notice period. In any other company, right on day one, they issue the terms and conditions of employment and make sure that the notice period agreement on quitting the company is signed right on the first day.
The worst part is that you have written, "Is this messier than the HR is making it to be?" It is you who have made the mess and not HR. You have the courage to come to the HR forum and pass the buck to HR for your mistakes! Hats off to you, gentleman! You have let down the HR of company A, and you expect the fraternity of this forum, who are mostly HR professionals, to suggest a solution on how to con their fellow member? At least you could have learned where to ask which question!
This forum is for raising queries on the HR profession. Non-HR individuals may ask queries related to their career workplace issues. Nevertheless, no solution could be offered in your case as your query is anti-HR.
Dinesh Divekar
From India, Bangalore
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8227You have written that "1st day I realized this company is not for me as it was very far from where I lived. I wanted to discontinue working so I dropped an apologetic email to HR and the Hiring Manager that the travel time was too much."
The reason that you have quoted is most displeasing. More than indecisiveness, it shows your juvenility. Well before accepting the offer letter, you should have calculated the commuting time from your home to the office. Epiphany on the long commuting time on the first working day smacks of an unprofessional approach. Any HR is bound to get angry at your "apologetic mail." Do you know what it takes to recruit a person?
In fact, your HR was too lenient by telling you to serve a 15-day notice period. In any other company, right on day one, they issue the terms and conditions of employment and make sure that the notice period agreement on quitting the company is signed right on the first day.
The worst part is that you have written, "Is this messier than the HR is making it to be?" It is you who have made the mess and not HR. You have the courage to come to the HR forum and pass the buck to HR for your mistakes! Hats off to you, gentleman! You have let down the HR of company A, and you expect the fraternity of this forum, who are mostly HR professionals, to suggest a solution on how to con their fellow member? At least you could have learned where to ask which question!
This forum is for raising queries on the HR profession. Non-HR individuals may ask queries related to their career workplace issues. Nevertheless, no solution could be offered in your case as your query is anti-HR.
Dinesh Divekar
From India, Bangalore
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Don't get panicked. Just ignore company A and join Company B as soon as possible. If you receive a call from company A's HR team, simply do not respond. Eventually, they will stop calling you. This kind of situation often occurs in our lives when choosing the right company. I would like to inform all HR colleagues that if somebody comes seeking help, please assist them or refrain from giving negative feedback. After all, we are all employees. We should not abandon our colleagues under any circumstances. Hopefully, the right person will understand.
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Dear Mr. Suresh A,
You are suggesting leaving company A in a lurch or ditching them. What you have suggested is unethical. In a public forum, we should give ethical advice. What one does in their personal life is that person's personal matter.
Well, gentleman, there is a difference between negative feedback and unethical advice. If in your dictionary, promoting ethics is negative feedback, then God bless you. There is a difference between availing of opportunities and being opportunistic.
I do not know whether you are from HR or not; however, if you are from HR, then neither are you true to your profession nor to the fraternity.
Lastly, you have advised ditching someone for personal gain. You too can be at the receiving end, so be prepared if someone ditches you as well. Do not grumble at that time. Neither should you blame the other side for disregarding their values!
Dinesh Divekar
From India, Bangalore
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You are suggesting leaving company A in a lurch or ditching them. What you have suggested is unethical. In a public forum, we should give ethical advice. What one does in their personal life is that person's personal matter.
Well, gentleman, there is a difference between negative feedback and unethical advice. If in your dictionary, promoting ethics is negative feedback, then God bless you. There is a difference between availing of opportunities and being opportunistic.
I do not know whether you are from HR or not; however, if you are from HR, then neither are you true to your profession nor to the fraternity.
Lastly, you have advised ditching someone for personal gain. You too can be at the receiving end, so be prepared if someone ditches you as well. Do not grumble at that time. Neither should you blame the other side for disregarding their values!
Dinesh Divekar
From India, Bangalore
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Dear Dinesh,
There is a beautiful quote: "Don't love your company. Instead, love your job, whom, no when company stops loving you." said by a famous Indian businessman. Coming to your point, look, currently, he needs a job to run his family. We are all human, we do make mistakes, but when an opportunity comes twice, we should go for it. Instead, we should not think it's right or wrong unless it harms others financially or in their careers. Many companies remove their employees in one day; do they think it's right or wrong? They do it for their personal benefit. So what I advise is nothing wrong... You questioned my professionalism, I would like to say that first, I am a human being, and then HR. If doing one wrong thing benefits 100 people, then it is not wrong. You can understand this when you think of a solution to an issue as a human rather than in your profession.
From India, Mumbai
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There is a beautiful quote: "Don't love your company. Instead, love your job, whom, no when company stops loving you." said by a famous Indian businessman. Coming to your point, look, currently, he needs a job to run his family. We are all human, we do make mistakes, but when an opportunity comes twice, we should go for it. Instead, we should not think it's right or wrong unless it harms others financially or in their careers. Many companies remove their employees in one day; do they think it's right or wrong? They do it for their personal benefit. So what I advise is nothing wrong... You questioned my professionalism, I would like to say that first, I am a human being, and then HR. If doing one wrong thing benefits 100 people, then it is not wrong. You can understand this when you think of a solution to an issue as a human rather than in your profession.
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Dear Mr. A. Suresh,
Every situation has three possible options: the first one is yours, the second one is mine, and the third one is the right one. I don't want to go in-depth and also agree with you to some extent. The only thing I don't agree with is the reason he stated for leaving the job.
From India, Pune
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Every situation has three possible options: the first one is yours, the second one is mine, and the third one is the right one. I don't want to go in-depth and also agree with you to some extent. The only thing I don't agree with is the reason he stated for leaving the job.
From India, Pune
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I think in this forum we are to focus on the question. Instead of reacting to one another, we should just decide to answer the question or refuse to answer. Everyone has a right to have their own views. Moral values also differ. I am not judging anybody here.
From India, Thane
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When we look at the issue from the point of view of HR of company A, the views of Dinesh are perfect. But when we see it from an employee's perspective, which is also required because we are here to sort out issues and make open the ways to find a solution for his issues also, the advice given by Suresh cannot be ignored. It is true that it takes a lot of strain and time to recruit an employee, but it is equally important that the cost to the company will be high if we have to lose an employee after, say, six months, either by way of resignation or if we wanted to terminate the guy for any reason, including poor performance. The very significance of probation is that this is the period during which we, the HR and the employee, can decide whether this organization is our cup of coffee or not. Certainly, if we compel this employee and he stays back and does not contribute or comes late every day, then it will become a problem for us, and then it will be the same HR who had recruited the employee who should terminate him. Since the employee has accepted that he could not make the right decision, we should allow him to leave, just thinking that if he leaves just before his probation is about to expire, the loss will be more.
All employment contracts are valid contracts but are in favor of employees. Therefore, the decision is to be taken mainly by the employee and not by the employer. Yes, if the employer has suffered a loss due to this, he can claim reasonable compensation. In the absence of any quantifiable compensation, you can just ignore it.
Madhu.T.K
From India, Kannur
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All employment contracts are valid contracts but are in favor of employees. Therefore, the decision is to be taken mainly by the employee and not by the employer. Yes, if the employer has suffered a loss due to this, he can claim reasonable compensation. In the absence of any quantifiable compensation, you can just ignore it.
Madhu.T.K
From India, Kannur
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