Dear All Please throw light on Gender Equity for various professions. Regards Shalini
From India, Pune
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Hi Shalini,
That's an interesting topic.
It would be more discriminating to say that only women or only men would suit an HR position. I would say it depends on the behavior and the quality of the person's skills to enter this particular department. Not all positions in present society are gender-based, so why HR?
It is generally said that women are considered more pleasing, patient, and soft compared to men. I'm not saying always, but most of the time. Since HR is connected to people relations, these qualities sometimes add great value. Another quality is openness; people tend to share more with women compared to men. I strongly agree, as this is my personal experience.
So, I would say that there are some inherent qualities that lead women compared to men.
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Srilatha
From India, Hyderabad
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That's an interesting topic.
It would be more discriminating to say that only women or only men would suit an HR position. I would say it depends on the behavior and the quality of the person's skills to enter this particular department. Not all positions in present society are gender-based, so why HR?
It is generally said that women are considered more pleasing, patient, and soft compared to men. I'm not saying always, but most of the time. Since HR is connected to people relations, these qualities sometimes add great value. Another quality is openness; people tend to share more with women compared to men. I strongly agree, as this is my personal experience.
So, I would say that there are some inherent qualities that lead women compared to men.
Regards,
Srilatha
From India, Hyderabad
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Dear All,
As rightly said, both men and women are equally capable. We can observe numerous opportunities being seized by women around us, which is a positive indicator of development.
I would like to congratulate the individual who initiated the discussion on the topic of who excels in HR - Men or Women. This is essentially a debating subject, and the outcome is uncertain.
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Nitin Kulkarni
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As rightly said, both men and women are equally capable. We can observe numerous opportunities being seized by women around us, which is a positive indicator of development.
I would like to congratulate the individual who initiated the discussion on the topic of who excels in HR - Men or Women. This is essentially a debating subject, and the outcome is uncertain.
Thanks & Regards,
Nitin Kulkarni
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Shalini, after 35 years in HR, I can assure you that gender is not what counts. You can have as many degrees as possible in any amount of disciplines within HR, but if you don't care for people or have no empathy for them, then you are not meant for HR. I am not saying that educational qualifications or experience are not considered...what I am saying is that if you do not have this inherent quality within you, then all else is merely a veneer.
From United Arab Emirates, Dubai
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Dear Ms. Shalini,
We can't describe which gender is suitable for handling HR. As an academician, I observe that interest among the students in HR is decreasing. This is because currently, more importance is placed on salary rather than job satisfaction. Initially, there is a discussion among students suggesting that there is little value in the HR field.
However, "without tasting the sugar, we can't feel the sweetness," and similarly, "whatever gender, if they have an interest in HR, there will definitely be good opportunities available for them." Experience is what shapes a person.
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MSR. MARIYAPPAN
From India, Dindigul
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We can't describe which gender is suitable for handling HR. As an academician, I observe that interest among the students in HR is decreasing. This is because currently, more importance is placed on salary rather than job satisfaction. Initially, there is a discussion among students suggesting that there is little value in the HR field.
However, "without tasting the sugar, we can't feel the sweetness," and similarly, "whatever gender, if they have an interest in HR, there will definitely be good opportunities available for them." Experience is what shapes a person.
Regards,
MSR. MARIYAPPAN
From India, Dindigul
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Dear Shalini,
I do not understand what prompts some of us to waste time on topics for which there is either no answer or finding an answer is futile. A few of your questions are not worded as questions. Once again, such urgency has been expressed as if some important office work is held up for want of guidance. We all supplement and complement each other in so many ways. What more is required to understand? A sheer waste of time.
Sunil Chandra
[Website: www.piiconsultants.com]
From India, Gurgaon
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I do not understand what prompts some of us to waste time on topics for which there is either no answer or finding an answer is futile. A few of your questions are not worded as questions. Once again, such urgency has been expressed as if some important office work is held up for want of guidance. We all supplement and complement each other in so many ways. What more is required to understand? A sheer waste of time.
Sunil Chandra
[Website: www.piiconsultants.com]
From India, Gurgaon
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Hi Shalini,
I too believe that this topic is not relevant for a study. Even if the verdict goes in favor of either gender, can you say, "all companies should have HR people only of this gender?" If you cannot utilize the results of a study, there is no point going ahead with it. In reality, if you are considering an appointment between a male and female, it would finally boil down to who is good among the candidates being considered, rather than what your study concludes. Also, if your study results do not favor either gender, then again the results are not useful.
I think you could do better to study the responses based on the qualities required for HR irrespective of gender.
Best regards,
Akbar
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I too believe that this topic is not relevant for a study. Even if the verdict goes in favor of either gender, can you say, "all companies should have HR people only of this gender?" If you cannot utilize the results of a study, there is no point going ahead with it. In reality, if you are considering an appointment between a male and female, it would finally boil down to who is good among the candidates being considered, rather than what your study concludes. Also, if your study results do not favor either gender, then again the results are not useful.
I think you could do better to study the responses based on the qualities required for HR irrespective of gender.
Best regards,
Akbar
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Hi Shalini,
I wouldn't comment on who's better, but based on the behavior of the person, women are considered better. They have a soft demeanor, such as being more patient, gentle, pleasing, less hot-tempered, and having the ability to handle and counsel. Mothers are usually more approachable in a family than fathers (most of the time), and similarly, in an organization, women in HR are more approachable and can multitask effectively.
Maria
From India, Bangalore
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I wouldn't comment on who's better, but based on the behavior of the person, women are considered better. They have a soft demeanor, such as being more patient, gentle, pleasing, less hot-tempered, and having the ability to handle and counsel. Mothers are usually more approachable in a family than fathers (most of the time), and similarly, in an organization, women in HR are more approachable and can multitask effectively.
Maria
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Agreed, that some of the inherent qualities in women are an integral part of HR, but HR can never work if it is not tough besides being soft. Remember, there is a need to implement discipline as well. It's the same way as a mother's love and the tough hand of a father.
So, I believe the HR department should be a mix and match of males as well as females to balance it out. What say, guys?
From India, Gurgaon
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So, I believe the HR department should be a mix and match of males as well as females to balance it out. What say, guys?
From India, Gurgaon
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Dear all,
I have read all those comments. :shock:
Somehow Shalini’s questions are irrelevant but still it’s frequently asked questions. Many people use to say that HR is made for Girls only. Here I would like to appreciate MSR. Mariyappan, Mariaa & PVQ’s comments.
I believe, sometimes gender matters or sometimes not.
Gender matters when we are looking for some particular industries like construction, real estate, manufacturing ect.
In this case we have to deal with lower levels, workers & etc. then men are the best. As I think, usually women don’t prefer to go to in these industries.
Otherwise this would be more discriminating to say who is better in HR. In my organization, I am the only female in HR. others are male. They are perfect for HR.
In a profession like HR you need to be patient, good listener, soft, cooperative, open & pleasing but apart from all these sometimes you also need to be bit rude, strong & diplomatic. If men have these qualities then he is good for HR and if woman don’t have these qualities then not suitable for HR function. Apart from all these inherent qualities person should have relevant qualification & merit.
Thanks,
Meha
From India, Bangalore
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I have read all those comments. :shock:
Somehow Shalini’s questions are irrelevant but still it’s frequently asked questions. Many people use to say that HR is made for Girls only. Here I would like to appreciate MSR. Mariyappan, Mariaa & PVQ’s comments.
I believe, sometimes gender matters or sometimes not.
Gender matters when we are looking for some particular industries like construction, real estate, manufacturing ect.
In this case we have to deal with lower levels, workers & etc. then men are the best. As I think, usually women don’t prefer to go to in these industries.
Otherwise this would be more discriminating to say who is better in HR. In my organization, I am the only female in HR. others are male. They are perfect for HR.
In a profession like HR you need to be patient, good listener, soft, cooperative, open & pleasing but apart from all these sometimes you also need to be bit rude, strong & diplomatic. If men have these qualities then he is good for HR and if woman don’t have these qualities then not suitable for HR function. Apart from all these inherent qualities person should have relevant qualification & merit.
Thanks,
Meha
From India, Bangalore
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Dear Sunil,
Why are you so rude? My intention is not to waste your time. I have just asked for an opinion. I have this assignment for the magazine I work for. We learn by questioning and interacting. Sorry to waste your time.
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Shalini
From India, Pune
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Why are you so rude? My intention is not to waste your time. I have just asked for an opinion. I have this assignment for the magazine I work for. We learn by questioning and interacting. Sorry to waste your time.
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Shalini
From India, Pune
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Hi Shalini,
I would request you to read as much as you can on the topic "Gender Equity." It will help you realize that there is nothing as "better than-gender wise." It is all about who is intelligent, who has more emotional intelligence (EQ), who has a higher Adversity Quotient (AQ), and who is more competent. The comparison should actually be made among who, among humans, can be a better HR representative. That is why you also have psychometric tools such as 16PF and Trimetrix that help you place the right people in the right job.
Regards,
Ken
From India, Mumbai
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I would request you to read as much as you can on the topic "Gender Equity." It will help you realize that there is nothing as "better than-gender wise." It is all about who is intelligent, who has more emotional intelligence (EQ), who has a higher Adversity Quotient (AQ), and who is more competent. The comparison should actually be made among who, among humans, can be a better HR representative. That is why you also have psychometric tools such as 16PF and Trimetrix that help you place the right people in the right job.
Regards,
Ken
From India, Mumbai
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I do agree with Tania's statement. I can say for specific functions of HR, women may be suitable. But it depends on the individual's capacity and the patience needed to handle the HR.
Thanks for any comments...!
From Germany, Herzogenaurach
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Thanks for any comments...!
From Germany, Herzogenaurach
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Hi, Shalini,
This discussion seems to have sparked off the entire gamut of reactions from HR counterparts. Interestingly, none of us seems to have highlighted the things that we keep talking about day in and day out. As a part of every recruitment/selection process, all of us must have read "No discrimination, on grounds of gender, religion..."
So, the first question that popped into my mind on seeing the Topic of discussion is "Why are HRs talking of discrimination?" From another perspective, talking of "Male/female is better as HR" is akin to the "proven fact" (in the olden days) that "Women are good only as housewives". The question is "Is history repeating itself?" and "Are we going back to the days of gender bias - although to the other extreme?"
Regards,
VAMSI
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This discussion seems to have sparked off the entire gamut of reactions from HR counterparts. Interestingly, none of us seems to have highlighted the things that we keep talking about day in and day out. As a part of every recruitment/selection process, all of us must have read "No discrimination, on grounds of gender, religion..."
So, the first question that popped into my mind on seeing the Topic of discussion is "Why are HRs talking of discrimination?" From another perspective, talking of "Male/female is better as HR" is akin to the "proven fact" (in the olden days) that "Women are good only as housewives". The question is "Is history repeating itself?" and "Are we going back to the days of gender bias - although to the other extreme?"
Regards,
VAMSI
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Hi Shalini,
You have raised an age-old debate - Bhains bari ya akal. I have spent 25 years in the HR function. I found that women are exploited very easily because they are known to be more ambitious than men. They cannot withstand the pressure, threats, inducement, and false promises. Whereas with males, it is not so easy to do so. Women are not given due protection and recognition by their male senior colleagues. This is really very pathetic and sinful. They are not given hard portfolios which need overtime working. They are not given due respect for which Indian Culture is famous globally. Women do not fight for their rights. They succumb to the pressures easily because they have a dual role to play, i.e., one at home front and another at the office. Males can offer prayers to Durga Devi, Maa Kali, Maa Saraswati, and other Devis but in actual life, they do not always show respect. Even the law is biased against women. I will give one live example. Women are fighting for reservation in the Parliament. The Speaker is alleged to have commented - "agar aurat parliament mein aa jayegi to roti kaun banayega?" Such attitudes of lawmakers have made the matters worse. This may or may not be liked by a few. But the hard reality cannot be put behind the curtains.
E&OE
Regards,
Satish Kumar
From India, Delhi
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You have raised an age-old debate - Bhains bari ya akal. I have spent 25 years in the HR function. I found that women are exploited very easily because they are known to be more ambitious than men. They cannot withstand the pressure, threats, inducement, and false promises. Whereas with males, it is not so easy to do so. Women are not given due protection and recognition by their male senior colleagues. This is really very pathetic and sinful. They are not given hard portfolios which need overtime working. They are not given due respect for which Indian Culture is famous globally. Women do not fight for their rights. They succumb to the pressures easily because they have a dual role to play, i.e., one at home front and another at the office. Males can offer prayers to Durga Devi, Maa Kali, Maa Saraswati, and other Devis but in actual life, they do not always show respect. Even the law is biased against women. I will give one live example. Women are fighting for reservation in the Parliament. The Speaker is alleged to have commented - "agar aurat parliament mein aa jayegi to roti kaun banayega?" Such attitudes of lawmakers have made the matters worse. This may or may not be liked by a few. But the hard reality cannot be put behind the curtains.
E&OE
Regards,
Satish Kumar
From India, Delhi
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Hi,
Whether it's HR or any other job, the basic thing is the attitude of the person in the position. Gender doesn't make any difference. HR is particularly an area where softness and sternness are required at the same time. While the person should be soft-spoken and easily approachable, he/she should be stern enough not to entertain any foolish or unacceptable act or behavior. They should be independent in decision-making and should always believe in their own intuition, though feedback is taken from everywhere there is a possibility.
Out of Money, Material, and Men... Men... I mean people are the toughest to deal with and manage.
Prashanti
From India, Madras
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Whether it's HR or any other job, the basic thing is the attitude of the person in the position. Gender doesn't make any difference. HR is particularly an area where softness and sternness are required at the same time. While the person should be soft-spoken and easily approachable, he/she should be stern enough not to entertain any foolish or unacceptable act or behavior. They should be independent in decision-making and should always believe in their own intuition, though feedback is taken from everywhere there is a possibility.
Out of Money, Material, and Men... Men... I mean people are the toughest to deal with and manage.
Prashanti
From India, Madras
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