Hi I sent a letter through Registered post explaning my situation I did not receive any response. So I went and spoke to recruitment HR she asked me to send an e-mail to settlement dept. I contact settlement dept there was a delay so I contacted via phone one of the lady who spoke to me asked me to pay 5599. I sent a DD through Registered post, I recieved an e-mail letter from settlement dept that I will be getting a experience with the reason as termination. IN need proper relieving can anyone help me with this..ASAP
From India
1From India
I worked in Sutherland global services I did not go to office due to some family problem starting from 19th Oct.I sent an e-mail to program HR stating all this, I informed that Im ready to pay one month of salary to compensate notice period but he replied me that they cannot give me any papers nothing can be done, one cannot simply pay money and get relieving letter , they wont even provide me any termination letter. Please help me with this,I need my relieving letter I told my TL and as well as HR saying that we moved out of city due to un-avoidable reason,so I will not be able to continue,the HR told me it is not possible to provide any reliving or termination letter, I went and spoke to recruitment HR she asked me to send an e-mail to settlement dept. I contact setlmnt dpt and there was a delay so I contacted via phone one of the lady who spoke to me asked me to pay 5599. I sent a DD through Registered post, then I came to know that I already received an e-mail letter from settlement dept that I will be getting a experience with the reason as termination. As it was considered as Job abandonment I will get proper relieving in the e-mail it will be mentioned as Termination. I need proper relievin letter pls suggest a solution.
From India
From India
Hi Radhika,
Am a HR in Top MNC and as per your statement u sent a mail to HR that u cant continue but as per our HR Terms its called Absconding, for Absconding employees no company will give you experience letter, and if u r so concerned about ur papers better u have to serve your minimum notice period, if the same is not done no HR person can help you.
Regards,
Vignesh S
From India, Tiruchchirappalli
Am a HR in Top MNC and as per your statement u sent a mail to HR that u cant continue but as per our HR Terms its called Absconding, for Absconding employees no company will give you experience letter, and if u r so concerned about ur papers better u have to serve your minimum notice period, if the same is not done no HR person can help you.
Regards,
Vignesh S
From India, Tiruchchirappalli
Dear Mr. Vignesh,
With due respects to your position, your experience, I beg to differ from what you say.
And I say this primarily based on just one point.
If Southerland has asked Radhika to pay certain amount in lieu of the 'notice period, which she say she has by way of a DD for Rs.5,999.00.
She says she did that, and so she had better be given a Service Certificate, not a Termination.
If they were honorable as an organization, which I can believe they could be, and this might just be a lapse, they should have not told her to pay in lieu of the notice period and should not have even accepted that offer even if Radhika pleaded.
I certainly believe there is a serious lapse some where.
She can't be awarded a double punishment for a single wrong.
On the other side, let me be forthright in stating that most policies are framed and formalized keep in mind the interests of the organizations. In fact, very few are pro-employees. I state this with the fullest authority having worked with as many as 7 CEO's in 6 companies, spanning over a career of nearly 40 years. Several things that the tops CEO's do is showed under the carpet. The present issue happening at the national level involving a top media man and his sub-journalist is a case in point. Trust you are aware as to what's happening, and I don't need to repeat that. so let's not be preachy, please.
After all we are human beings, we need to be advocates of the employees.
We owe a larger allegiance to them than to the management, as they are the very purpose of our job, our life, our daily bread, and employers are one's who use HR as they tools for carrying out, at most times what they want.
Bringing back this discussion to focus, let's try to use our collective conscience to bring some pressure on people who man such HR positions for they just are not using their common sense.
I beg your pardon, but I just can't withhold my candid, and may be terse response, but what you've said I believe it is what I would call 'hypocrisy.'
From India, Hyderabad
With due respects to your position, your experience, I beg to differ from what you say.
And I say this primarily based on just one point.
If Southerland has asked Radhika to pay certain amount in lieu of the 'notice period, which she say she has by way of a DD for Rs.5,999.00.
She says she did that, and so she had better be given a Service Certificate, not a Termination.
If they were honorable as an organization, which I can believe they could be, and this might just be a lapse, they should have not told her to pay in lieu of the notice period and should not have even accepted that offer even if Radhika pleaded.
I certainly believe there is a serious lapse some where.
She can't be awarded a double punishment for a single wrong.
On the other side, let me be forthright in stating that most policies are framed and formalized keep in mind the interests of the organizations. In fact, very few are pro-employees. I state this with the fullest authority having worked with as many as 7 CEO's in 6 companies, spanning over a career of nearly 40 years. Several things that the tops CEO's do is showed under the carpet. The present issue happening at the national level involving a top media man and his sub-journalist is a case in point. Trust you are aware as to what's happening, and I don't need to repeat that. so let's not be preachy, please.
After all we are human beings, we need to be advocates of the employees.
We owe a larger allegiance to them than to the management, as they are the very purpose of our job, our life, our daily bread, and employers are one's who use HR as they tools for carrying out, at most times what they want.
Bringing back this discussion to focus, let's try to use our collective conscience to bring some pressure on people who man such HR positions for they just are not using their common sense.
I beg your pardon, but I just can't withhold my candid, and may be terse response, but what you've said I believe it is what I would call 'hypocrisy.'
From India, Hyderabad
Sorry I made a few typos, hence this is the revised and corrected version of my response to Mr. Vignesh's reply to Radhika.
Dear Mr. Vignesh,
With due respects to your position, your experience, ad I say this primarily based on just one point.
I beg to differ from what you say, especially in terms of the definition of 'Absconding' and the action.
Really speaking even Radhika may not have realized what this would all translate to. Do anyone os us realy know what made her do what she did.
Perhaps she must have closely even discussed this with whom ever she was reporting to. It's quite possible that person my have been in agreement with what she wanted to do and may have even asked her to do what she eventually did. It could be possible that things spun in a different way and the person who may she have confided with may also turn a blind eye, and go by the rule book.
I hope I am not putting words into Radhika's mouth, but all these are possibilities.
And now back to the main issue we are discussing in this case.
This is an Ethical Issue and the company she worked for may be absolutely guilty. They have asked her to pay a certain sum of money in lieu of the 'notice period, which she say she has by way of a DD for Rs.5,999.00. If they were honorable as an organization, which I can believe they could be, and this might just be a lapse, they should have not told her to pay in lieu of the notice period and should not have even accepted that offer even if Radhika pleaded. I certainly believe there is a serious lapse some where. She can't be awarded a double punishment for a single wrong. She says she did that, and so she had better be given a Service Certificate, not a Termination.
On the other side, let me be forthright in stating that most policies are framed and formalized keep in mind the interests of the organizations. In fact, very few are pro-employees. I state this with the fullest authority having worked with as many as 7 CEO's in 6 companies, spanning over a career of nearly 40 years. Several things that the tops CEO's do is shoved under the carpet. The present issue happening at the national level involving a top media man and his sub-journalist is a case in point. Trust you are aware as to what's happening, and I don't need to repeat that. so let's not be preachy, please.
After all we are human beings, we need to be advocates of the employees.
We owe a larger allegiance to them than to the management, as they are the very purpose of our job, our life, our daily bread, and employers are one's who use HR as they tools for carrying out, at most times what they want.
Bringing back this discussion to focus, let's try to use our collective conscience to bring some pressure on people who man such HR positions for they just are not using their common sense.
I beg your pardon, but I just can't withhold my candid, and may be terse response, but what you've said I believe it is what I would call 'hypocrisy.'
From India, Hyderabad
Dear Mr. Vignesh,
With due respects to your position, your experience, ad I say this primarily based on just one point.
I beg to differ from what you say, especially in terms of the definition of 'Absconding' and the action.
Really speaking even Radhika may not have realized what this would all translate to. Do anyone os us realy know what made her do what she did.
Perhaps she must have closely even discussed this with whom ever she was reporting to. It's quite possible that person my have been in agreement with what she wanted to do and may have even asked her to do what she eventually did. It could be possible that things spun in a different way and the person who may she have confided with may also turn a blind eye, and go by the rule book.
I hope I am not putting words into Radhika's mouth, but all these are possibilities.
And now back to the main issue we are discussing in this case.
This is an Ethical Issue and the company she worked for may be absolutely guilty. They have asked her to pay a certain sum of money in lieu of the 'notice period, which she say she has by way of a DD for Rs.5,999.00. If they were honorable as an organization, which I can believe they could be, and this might just be a lapse, they should have not told her to pay in lieu of the notice period and should not have even accepted that offer even if Radhika pleaded. I certainly believe there is a serious lapse some where. She can't be awarded a double punishment for a single wrong. She says she did that, and so she had better be given a Service Certificate, not a Termination.
On the other side, let me be forthright in stating that most policies are framed and formalized keep in mind the interests of the organizations. In fact, very few are pro-employees. I state this with the fullest authority having worked with as many as 7 CEO's in 6 companies, spanning over a career of nearly 40 years. Several things that the tops CEO's do is shoved under the carpet. The present issue happening at the national level involving a top media man and his sub-journalist is a case in point. Trust you are aware as to what's happening, and I don't need to repeat that. so let's not be preachy, please.
After all we are human beings, we need to be advocates of the employees.
We owe a larger allegiance to them than to the management, as they are the very purpose of our job, our life, our daily bread, and employers are one's who use HR as they tools for carrying out, at most times what they want.
Bringing back this discussion to focus, let's try to use our collective conscience to bring some pressure on people who man such HR positions for they just are not using their common sense.
I beg your pardon, but I just can't withhold my candid, and may be terse response, but what you've said I believe it is what I would call 'hypocrisy.'
From India, Hyderabad
Dear Radhika,
Although the way you left the job is not the right procedure and you should always try to serve proper notice before leaving any job and maintain the healthy relation with the organisation. You never know when you may need to come back, it's a small world. In this case, if you have paid the notice pay, they have to give you the experience & no due certificate but again it depends on terms & conditions you have signed while receivng the appointment with this organsation.
From India, Chandigarh
Although the way you left the job is not the right procedure and you should always try to serve proper notice before leaving any job and maintain the healthy relation with the organisation. You never know when you may need to come back, it's a small world. In this case, if you have paid the notice pay, they have to give you the experience & no due certificate but again it depends on terms & conditions you have signed while receivng the appointment with this organsation.
From India, Chandigarh
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