Team, Please share the enclosed mishap abstract and its lessons learned to your team.
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Dear Raghu,
Thanks for the attachment. I think this is too much to expect in Indian circumstances. I have seen in Japan, they had special pullers for manhole covers. Similarly, in Europe, there was a special lifting fixture developed by the workmen there, who even had a patent for his design. We have to be proactive.
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Sudhir
From India, Vadodara
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Thanks for the attachment. I think this is too much to expect in Indian circumstances. I have seen in Japan, they had special pullers for manhole covers. Similarly, in Europe, there was a special lifting fixture developed by the workmen there, who even had a patent for his design. We have to be proactive.
Thanks & Regards,
Sudhir
From India, Vadodara
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Thank you, Raghu, for sharing. In the three pictures in the presentation, the first one is of manual lifting. Has it been included to show the normal practice only, or does it have anything to do with the present incident? From the pictures and the text, I understand that it shows only normal practice. Please explain.
From India, Coimbatore
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From India, Coimbatore
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Dear Raghu,
Thanks for sharing. The availability of such a magnetic lifting machine for manholes was a new thing for me. Thanks and keep on sharing.
@PTRC
Dear Sir,
The first picture shows the traditional manual method used for lifting such manhole covers. That's what I understood from the write-up.
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Thanks for sharing. The availability of such a magnetic lifting machine for manholes was a new thing for me. Thanks and keep on sharing.
@PTRC
Dear Sir,
The first picture shows the traditional manual method used for lifting such manhole covers. That's what I understood from the write-up.
From India
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I think there should be a wrong X and right mark besides the pictures first pic is wrong if am not wrong , and it should be avoided, second and third pictures are right,, raghu pls confirm
From India, Madras
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Dear PTRC,
The first picture shows the ‘’crow bar’’ which were using in our work place to open manhole covers instead of new equipments; it’s not related to this accident. Yes, Your right its show only a normal practice.
Now a days the engineering design was changed for manhole covers in our camp. Manhole cover must include two lifting point so the contractor or customer can lift/move the covers safely.
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From United States, Fpo
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The first picture shows the ‘’crow bar’’ which were using in our work place to open manhole covers instead of new equipments; it’s not related to this accident. Yes, Your right its show only a normal practice.
Now a days the engineering design was changed for manhole covers in our camp. Manhole cover must include two lifting point so the contractor or customer can lift/move the covers safely.
[IMG]http://www.pakuya.com/upload/20111103/SMC_Watertight_Square_Manhole_Cover.jpg[/IMG]
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Dear Raghu and all others,
We know that steel/iron manhole covers are very lightweight compared to cement/concrete manhole covers. In our flat, for the overhead tank, we have an iron or steel manhole cover that is easy to lift. However, in the parking area, for the underground tank, we have a concrete manhole cover that is square in shape but exactly like the one in the picture. To lift such heavy manhole covers, we use a rope or plastic tube and run it across the embedded steel/iron rod to pull the cover, which can cause strain on the back and legs due to the heavy work. In residential apartments, especially small ones, not everyone can afford costly equipment. In our flat, if required, we use a rope to open the tank cover, not daily but sometimes monthly or once in three months.
From India, Madras
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Dear Raghu and all others,
We know that steel/iron manhole covers are very lightweight compared to cement/concrete manhole covers. In our flat, for the overhead tank, we have an iron or steel manhole cover that is easy to lift. However, in the parking area, for the underground tank, we have a concrete manhole cover that is square in shape but exactly like the one in the picture. To lift such heavy manhole covers, we use a rope or plastic tube and run it across the embedded steel/iron rod to pull the cover, which can cause strain on the back and legs due to the heavy work. In residential apartments, especially small ones, not everyone can afford costly equipment. In our flat, if required, we use a rope to open the tank cover, not daily but sometimes monthly or once in three months.
From India, Madras
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Dear Ravi,
Nice to see you after a very long time in our forum. In residential apartments, they are not going to spend money on such kinds of equipment, even in small-scale construction companies not ready to invest money in that kind of equipment.
In our camp, more than 15 to 20 contracts are working on various projects, none of them having such equipment. They are always using a "crow bar" or using a forklift to move the manhole covers with the help of sling and shackles. It does not mean it's unsafe; most of them are developing an Activity Hazard Analysis to control the hazard and implement the same in the workplace.
When we are not able to control a specific hazard, then we are supposed to buy that type of equipment. For example, if we have a specific contract on-site related to manholes and have a specific task to work on manholes daily, it means we need to buy that equipment instead of using other methods.
If we don't have much work on manholes, we just need to implement the AHA, train our employees on the specific task, monitor them closely while they perform the task, etc. Now, just calculate the hours spent on training, monitoring, etc., for one day. If this occurs daily, calculate the hours spent on indirect costs; surely, management will buy the equipment.
However, it is very hard to implement in residential houses, but we need to take care of ourselves while performing any work. "Make safety a part of your work" is essential, whether at home or in the office.
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Nice to see you after a very long time in our forum. In residential apartments, they are not going to spend money on such kinds of equipment, even in small-scale construction companies not ready to invest money in that kind of equipment.
In our camp, more than 15 to 20 contracts are working on various projects, none of them having such equipment. They are always using a "crow bar" or using a forklift to move the manhole covers with the help of sling and shackles. It does not mean it's unsafe; most of them are developing an Activity Hazard Analysis to control the hazard and implement the same in the workplace.
When we are not able to control a specific hazard, then we are supposed to buy that type of equipment. For example, if we have a specific contract on-site related to manholes and have a specific task to work on manholes daily, it means we need to buy that equipment instead of using other methods.
If we don't have much work on manholes, we just need to implement the AHA, train our employees on the specific task, monitor them closely while they perform the task, etc. Now, just calculate the hours spent on training, monitoring, etc., for one day. If this occurs daily, calculate the hours spent on indirect costs; surely, management will buy the equipment.
However, it is very hard to implement in residential houses, but we need to take care of ourselves while performing any work. "Make safety a part of your work" is essential, whether at home or in the office.
From United States, Fpo
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