Hi Seniors, my salary is $19,838. For this amount, my company is deducting $996 as PF. How is it possible? My HR said that we are calculating it on CTC. Can anyone please clarify my doubt, please?
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Girish
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Hello girish, PF Cal on Basic salary. What is your basic ? Basic 12% is your PF Deduation. If you basic is 8300 X 12% = 996 Regards, somashekara
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The PF limit is Rs. 6500/-. If you are getting Rs. 50,000/-, then also the deduction should be on Rs. 6500/- (Basic + DA). The calculation method is Rs. 6500 * 12% = Rs. 780. If they included admin charges (1.6%), it could be Rs. 884/- (total 13.6%). As per my knowledge, it's wrong. Please check with your HR and their policy.
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I am totally in agreement with Mr. Murali. PF is always deducted based on the basic salary. If your basic salary is more than ₹6,500, it will be calculated on ₹6,500 at 13.61%, with a maximum deduction of ₹887. If they deduct more than this amount, you should discuss it with your HR department.
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You are right, but it is not the case in all situations. If an employee's basic salary exceeds 6500/-, he has the option to choose. Either he can contribute 12% on 6500/-, which is Rs. 780, or 12% on the actual basic salary, i.e., 8300 X 12% = 996 (if basic = 8300/-). Furthermore, administrative charges are applicable to the employer, not the employee. Employers are required to contribute 13.61% of the basic salary to the PF department.
Correct me if I am mistaken.
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PF is calculated at 12% on Basic Salary. If your basic is more than Rs. 6500/-, then the contribution can be limited to Rs. 780/- or calculated on the full basic salary. In your case, it seems the PF is calculated on the full basic salary, which is Rs. 8300/- (as Rs. 996/- is deducted as mentioned by you). Please check your payslip or CTC for your basic salary and confirm.
Hope this solves the query.
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Manasi Shah
Consultant
Advent Corporate Services
From India, Mumbai
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Hope this solves the query.
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Manasi Shah
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Advent Corporate Services
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Hi Seniors, adding to the query, from the beginning of this month, my company (a financial data service provider) circulated an email asking all employees to put their signatures on a consent form. This form states that going forward, the PF will be deducted based on the actual basic salary, and there will be no cap of 6500/-. I would like to know if there is a rule that allows for disregarding this cap. Additionally, going forward, will both the employer and employee contribute towards the PF at the same rate, i.e., 12% of the actual basic salary?
Thanks for your valuable opinions!
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Shom
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Thanks for your valuable opinions!
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Shom
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I think you have misunderstood what HR said. If he said that it is included in your CTC, then it's OK. But if he has said that it is calculated on your CTC, then it is wrong. Therefore, clarify the same from the HR department.
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You can visit EPFO and fill in your code and employer code to find the solution. If you want to withdraw PF, you need to visit the local PF department to understand the process. Fill out the correct form, get it signed by the HR department, and deposit the form at the PF department. Automatically, you will receive the amount from the PF department within one month of form submission.
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Samsheen
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Dear all,
The above expressions are correct. Dear Girish, you should see your appointment letter where the salary breakup is given. Also, see your pay slip, which someone has pointed out correctly. Though PF is restricted to Rs 6500, some companies will extend the benefits even though it is more than 6500. PF is deducted at 12% of basic and DA (this allowance is optional; some companies may give or may not). There is no question of adding any admin expenses for this. CTC is a confused word; one should understand the same before accepting the pay package.
Hope all the points have been clarified.
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Dr. Nagaraj
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The above expressions are correct. Dear Girish, you should see your appointment letter where the salary breakup is given. Also, see your pay slip, which someone has pointed out correctly. Though PF is restricted to Rs 6500, some companies will extend the benefits even though it is more than 6500. PF is deducted at 12% of basic and DA (this allowance is optional; some companies may give or may not). There is no question of adding any admin expenses for this. CTC is a confused word; one should understand the same before accepting the pay package.
Hope all the points have been clarified.
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Dr. Nagaraj
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Dear Girish, I totally agree with Mr.S.K. Singh, P.F. is calculated on basic. please chk your pay slip. I think your basic is Rs.8300/-.
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PF Calculation on Basic Salary
PF is calculated on the basic salary. As per government norms, the minimum PF contribution is 12% of the basic salary. The formula to calculate PF is Basic Salary * 12% = PF. However, if an employee wishes to contribute more towards PF, they can go up to 100% of their basic salary. To do this, they need to provide consent to their HR Department. Please verify this information with your HR team.
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PF is calculated on the basic salary. As per government norms, the minimum PF contribution is 12% of the basic salary. The formula to calculate PF is Basic Salary * 12% = PF. However, if an employee wishes to contribute more towards PF, they can go up to 100% of their basic salary. To do this, they need to provide consent to their HR Department. Please verify this information with your HR team.
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Hello everyone, as I am a fresher in HR, I wanted to know how to calculate all allowances in the salary structure. I want the exact percentage for basic, HRA, and Conveyance allowance. Kindly guide me on it.
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Hi Girish, you don't have to worry over this simple query. Though PF deduction is typically done on a maximum ceiling of ₹6,500 (Basic + DA), some companies follow a procedure of deducting the PF at a flat rate of 12% on the basic salary, irrespective of the maximum ceiling. So, it purely depends on the company's policy. In fact, this can be beneficial to the employee since some amount goes as savings and they also receive tax benefits on the accumulations.
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[QUOTE=Gvpcollege;1417724]Hi Seniors, my salary is ₹19,838. For this amount, my company is deducting ₹996 as PF. How is it possible? My HR said that we are calculating on CTC. Can anyone please clarify my doubt, please? Thanks & Regards, Girish
Dear Girish,
The PF amount deducted from the employee is only 12% of his/her Basic. The Admin charges of 1.67% are the Employer's Contribution. The employee need not contribute for Admin Charges. The PF limit is ₹6,500 Basic. For this, 12% will be ₹780 only. If your basic is more than ₹6,500, the employee can decide if he/she wants to contribute 12% of that amount or only ₹780.
Please check your CTC, and if your basic is more than ₹6,500, you have the right to tell your employer that you want to contribute only ₹780.
The Exact PF Calculation is as follows:
Employee Contribution: 12% of Basic if less than or equal to ₹6,500
Plus
Employer Contribution: 12% on your basic and another 1.67% on your basic for Admin Charges.
So, for example, if your basic is ₹6,500, you will have to contribute ₹780, and your employer will have to contribute ₹889. So, a total of ₹1,669 will go into your PF account every month.
Hope this will help you.
Thanks & Regards,
Malini Naveen
HR & Admin Executive
From India, Tiruppur
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Dear Girish,
The PF amount deducted from the employee is only 12% of his/her Basic. The Admin charges of 1.67% are the Employer's Contribution. The employee need not contribute for Admin Charges. The PF limit is ₹6,500 Basic. For this, 12% will be ₹780 only. If your basic is more than ₹6,500, the employee can decide if he/she wants to contribute 12% of that amount or only ₹780.
Please check your CTC, and if your basic is more than ₹6,500, you have the right to tell your employer that you want to contribute only ₹780.
The Exact PF Calculation is as follows:
Employee Contribution: 12% of Basic if less than or equal to ₹6,500
Plus
Employer Contribution: 12% on your basic and another 1.67% on your basic for Admin Charges.
So, for example, if your basic is ₹6,500, you will have to contribute ₹780, and your employer will have to contribute ₹889. So, a total of ₹1,669 will go into your PF account every month.
Hope this will help you.
Thanks & Regards,
Malini Naveen
HR & Admin Executive
From India, Tiruppur
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Dear All, can you please let me know if an employee will be given an option to choose from the below:
Either they can contribute 12% on 6500/-, i.e., Rs 780/- or 12% on actual basic, i.e., 8300 X 12% = 996/- (if basic = 8300/-).
Then everyone would prefer to go for the 1st option, that 12% on 6500/-.
So does the company choose the option for the employee, or does the employee have the liberty to choose their own option?
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Either they can contribute 12% on 6500/-, i.e., Rs 780/- or 12% on actual basic, i.e., 8300 X 12% = 996/- (if basic = 8300/-).
Then everyone would prefer to go for the 1st option, that 12% on 6500/-.
So does the company choose the option for the employee, or does the employee have the liberty to choose their own option?
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We cannot say that all are not the same. A few are very traditional in nature, and they love to save as much as they can. Moreover, if an employee chooses the first option, the employer is also liable to contribute the same amount to the PF Department. The employee has the right to choose. But in another sense, it is almost the same for the employer as both contributions are adjusted in CTC.
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Dear Sir, My basic pay is restricted to Rs.6500/-. Can i increase my basic pay to facilitate more PF contribution.
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As per the PF Act, the employee's contribution is 12% of the basic salary, and the employer's contribution is 13.61%, including administrative charges. An employee can contribute more than 12% of the basic salary based on their interest, but there is a maximum ceiling amount for employers to contribute to PF, which is (Basic + DA) = 6500/-. Sometimes, an employer may set their ceiling amount at 7500/-, but that is based on the employer's interest.
As you mentioned, the employer is deducting 996 as PF. This indicates they are deducting your contribution. If they intend to deduct 996 as PF, your basic should be 8300/-. First, you can review your salary breakup. If you find that your basic is not 8300/-, ask your HR to explain the breakup.
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Bhargav P
PF calculation is based on the basic salary. What is your basic salary? 12% of your basic is the PF deduction. If your basic is 8300, then 12% of it is 996.
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Somashekara
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As you mentioned, the employer is deducting 996 as PF. This indicates they are deducting your contribution. If they intend to deduct 996 as PF, your basic should be 8300/-. First, you can review your salary breakup. If you find that your basic is not 8300/-, ask your HR to explain the breakup.
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Bhargav P
PF calculation is based on the basic salary. What is your basic salary? 12% of your basic is the PF deduction. If your basic is 8300, then 12% of it is 996.
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Somashekara
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I totally disagree. As per my knowledge, PF calculation goes as below:
Employee PF Calculation
- Employee PF = 12% of Actual Basic (regardless of wage ceiling of Rs. 6500/-)
Employer PF Calculation
- Employer PF = 8.33% of Basic salary or maximum Rs. 541/- (Pension Fund)
- 3.67% of Basic salary (limited up to Rs. 6500/-, if more than Rs. 6500/-, then it will be employee provident fund contribution - Rs. 541/-)
- 1.1% of Basic EPF Admin Charges, contributed by Employer
- 0.5% of Basic EDLI account, contributed by Employer
- 0.01% of Basic EDLI Admin Charges, contributed by Employer
Employee's contribution of 12% goes to the Provident Fund account, and the Employer's contribution of 13.61% goes as mentioned above. On successful completion of 6 months, the employee is eligible to claim the Pension amount, i.e., 8.33% of the employer's share of contribution (Note: interest not applicable on Pension Fund).
Correct me if I am wrong.
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Asgar Ali
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Employee PF Calculation
- Employee PF = 12% of Actual Basic (regardless of wage ceiling of Rs. 6500/-)
Employer PF Calculation
- Employer PF = 8.33% of Basic salary or maximum Rs. 541/- (Pension Fund)
- 3.67% of Basic salary (limited up to Rs. 6500/-, if more than Rs. 6500/-, then it will be employee provident fund contribution - Rs. 541/-)
- 1.1% of Basic EPF Admin Charges, contributed by Employer
- 0.5% of Basic EDLI account, contributed by Employer
- 0.01% of Basic EDLI Admin Charges, contributed by Employer
Employee's contribution of 12% goes to the Provident Fund account, and the Employer's contribution of 13.61% goes as mentioned above. On successful completion of 6 months, the employee is eligible to claim the Pension amount, i.e., 8.33% of the employer's share of contribution (Note: interest not applicable on Pension Fund).
Correct me if I am wrong.
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Asgar Ali
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Dear Girish,
I agree with Manasi. To my knowledge, as all seniors have said, it's the same as what I heard on PF calculation. It depends on the company whether they use limited PF or unlimited PF calculations. In your company, it's unlimited PF calculation.
I hope your doubt got cleared by adding my point as well.
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I agree with Manasi. To my knowledge, as all seniors have said, it's the same as what I heard on PF calculation. It depends on the company whether they use limited PF or unlimited PF calculations. In your company, it's unlimited PF calculation.
I hope your doubt got cleared by adding my point as well.
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I believe there is a communication gap in this matter. I suspect they may have deducted PF as per the statute, i.e., 12% on the basic with a ceiling limit of Rs. 6500/-, and the remainder must have been deducted towards VPF. If this is the case, whatever they have deducted should be acceptable. Please check with your employer promptly.
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Ramachandra D Joshi
Hospet, Karnataka.
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Ramachandra D Joshi
Hospet, Karnataka.
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First, you should provide your basic salary. If your basic is 8300/-, then your PF deduction will be at 12% on 8300, i.e., 996/- (your contribution), and PF from employer contribution will be 455/- (996-541). EPS deduction at 8.33% on 6500/- will be 541/- (from the employer).
TOTAL DEDUCTION AMOUNT: 1992/-
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Kundan Suman
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TOTAL DEDUCTION AMOUNT: 1992/-
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Hello Girish, this is R.K. Murthy. I agree with Mr. S.K. Singh, Senior Executive - HR - Eastern India. As explained, there is an option for PF deduction on the actual basic, and administration charges are for the employer only. Please contact your HR Department.
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R.K. Murthy
Essen & Co., Visakhapatnam.
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R.K. Murthy
Essen & Co., Visakhapatnam.
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I am Nishant Kumar Mishra, working as an Accounts Executive, and my company provides only the PF account number without issuing a PF slip. If we resign from our position, what is the procedure for withdrawing PF? Please clear my doubts.
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Nishant Kumar Mishra
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Hi seniors, please tell me about withdrawing the PF. What will an employee get if they don't want to receive a pension? Will it be either 12% employee share + 12% employer share, or 12% employee share + 3.67% of employer PF contribution as 8.33% goes to the pension fund?
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Dear Seniors, As per the current norms PF contribution is 12% or 12.5%? Regards Sanghamitra
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Total PF rate of deduction is 25.61%. Employee share is 12% and Employer Share is 13.61%. Within the 13.61% employer share, 8.33% is for the Family Pension Fund, 1.1% for administrative charges, 0.05% for EDLI, and the remaining is the difference between the Employee's Share and the Pension Fund.
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Dear Nishant,
You have to fill out Form 19 & 10C (10C is to be submitted when you have worked for more than six months in a company) two months after the date of resignation. There is no need for PF slips as they are only for confirmation of your PF account and amount, which is only in the employee's case. If your company has not submitted the Annual Return, please attach Form 3A (attested copy by the company).
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You have to fill out Form 19 & 10C (10C is to be submitted when you have worked for more than six months in a company) two months after the date of resignation. There is no need for PF slips as they are only for confirmation of your PF account and amount, which is only in the employee's case. If your company has not submitted the Annual Return, please attach Form 3A (attested copy by the company).
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Sir,
The maximum limit of Rs. 6500/- is something I am not able to understand, as all companies are deducting PF at 12% on basic, whatever the basic is. My basic is 11,000/- and the contribution is 1320/- at 12%. Then how is the maximum limit only 6500/-?
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The maximum limit of Rs. 6500/- is something I am not able to understand, as all companies are deducting PF at 12% on basic, whatever the basic is. My basic is 11,000/- and the contribution is 1320/- at 12%. Then how is the maximum limit only 6500/-?
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Clarification on Pension at Retirement
Can anybody please clarify what the pension is that we receive at the time of retirement? The attached article suggests that we should not consider the limit of $6,500.
Please clarify.
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Murali Mohan Voleti
GVK, Hyderabad
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Can anybody please clarify what the pension is that we receive at the time of retirement? The attached article suggests that we should not consider the limit of $6,500.
Please clarify.
Thanks and Regards,
Murali Mohan Voleti
GVK, Hyderabad
From India, Hyderabad
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PF Calculation Sheet To The Subscribers At the Time Of Provident Fund Withdrawal.pdf