Hi, I would like to know what is the purpose of Form 11. I came across a few posts on this but could not gather a definite conclusion. Currently only those employees whose basic is less than 6500 are covered under PF in my organization. Does Form 11 need to be filled by existing employees whose basic is more than 6500 also, irrespective whether they had PF in their previous organizations or not? If yes, then does signing Form 11 mean that the employee is giving a declaration that his basic is above 6500 and he voluntarily does not want to opt for PF? Regards, Mavis
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Dear, It is a declaration by a person taking up employment in an establishment in which the Employees’ Provident Fund and Family Pension Fund Scheme are in force. It is doesn't mean he can't opt out of PF. as i said earleir it is simple declartion made by the employee about his previous employment(that he was the member of PF/or not). see if he has salary more than 6500 there, he will remain be the member of PF with ur org, if he hasn't withdrawal his PF. Regards Vipin:icon1::icon1:
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Dear, It is a declaration by a person taking up employment in an establishment in which the Employees’ Provident Fund and Family Pension Fund Scheme are in force. It is doesn't mean he can't opt out of PF. as i said earleir it is simple declartion made by the employee about his previous employment(that he was the member of PF/or not). see if he has salary more than 6500 there, he will remain be the member of PF with ur org, if he hasn't withdrawal his PF. Regards Vipin:icon1::icon1:
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Dear Sirs,
Can any one kindly let me know as form 11 in pf is to be filled when:
1) Suppose recently one employee has joined our organization but if he has not withdrawn his earlier pf but still wants PF exemption in present company (Our organization). So is he eligible to make declaration in form 11?
2) Secondly if a fresher has joined a company and if he wishes to exempt himself from being a member of PF by filling form 11 (Salary being more than 6500/-). So is he eligible to make declaration in form 11?
Kindly guide.
Rregards,
Deepak Motwani
From India, Vadodara
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Can any one kindly let me know as form 11 in pf is to be filled when:
1) Suppose recently one employee has joined our organization but if he has not withdrawn his earlier pf but still wants PF exemption in present company (Our organization). So is he eligible to make declaration in form 11?
2) Secondly if a fresher has joined a company and if he wishes to exempt himself from being a member of PF by filling form 11 (Salary being more than 6500/-). So is he eligible to make declaration in form 11?
Kindly guide.
Rregards,
Deepak Motwani
From India, Vadodara
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Continuing the above discussion... 1.No he is not entitled for PF Exemption. 2.Yes he is eligible for PF Exemption.
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Dear Deepak,
Once a person is enrolled under PF Scheme, irrespective of his salary increments in consecutive jobs, he does not have an option of exemption from the scheme, unless the company is not registered under the statute.
On the other hand, if a fresher joining his first organization with Basic + DA above Rs. 6500/- can opt out of the PF scheme. However, he has an option to join the PF Scheme in his future organizations.
Hope this answer your queries.
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Once a person is enrolled under PF Scheme, irrespective of his salary increments in consecutive jobs, he does not have an option of exemption from the scheme, unless the company is not registered under the statute.
On the other hand, if a fresher joining his first organization with Basic + DA above Rs. 6500/- can opt out of the PF scheme. However, he has an option to join the PF Scheme in his future organizations.
Hope this answer your queries.
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Hello All,
My question is a little different from the topic here but still related to PF & ESIC. I just did not want to create another thread.
My company is covered under both PF & ESIC. I am recruiting engineers as Trainees, and for at least 6 months, they will be under probation. During this 6-month period, I do not want them to be covered under PF or ESIC. Is it possible? The issue is that most of the time the candidate vanishes after a few days or a month, rendering all the procedures done a waste. How can this be managed effectively?
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My question is a little different from the topic here but still related to PF & ESIC. I just did not want to create another thread.
My company is covered under both PF & ESIC. I am recruiting engineers as Trainees, and for at least 6 months, they will be under probation. During this 6-month period, I do not want them to be covered under PF or ESIC. Is it possible? The issue is that most of the time the candidate vanishes after a few days or a month, rendering all the procedures done a waste. How can this be managed effectively?
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Dear Hilmesh,
Welcome to this query! I too was initially in the dark regarding this provision. However, I have now acquired the exact solution.
The trainees you are referring to are under the purview of Certified Standing Order or Model Standing Order for the class of Apprentice. The payment you are providing them shall be considered as a stipend and not wages. Therefore, you can exclude them from PF and ESIC. I strongly recommend that you certify your standing order and include all these provisions for the apprentices, such as their stipend, training period, safety, leave, etc.
I hope you will find this information very helpful.
Regards,
Mangesh Wakodkar
Aurangabad
From India, Pune
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Welcome to this query! I too was initially in the dark regarding this provision. However, I have now acquired the exact solution.
The trainees you are referring to are under the purview of Certified Standing Order or Model Standing Order for the class of Apprentice. The payment you are providing them shall be considered as a stipend and not wages. Therefore, you can exclude them from PF and ESIC. I strongly recommend that you certify your standing order and include all these provisions for the apprentices, such as their stipend, training period, safety, leave, etc.
I hope you will find this information very helpful.
Regards,
Mangesh Wakodkar
Aurangabad
From India, Pune
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