Hello All,
I am facing an issue with one of previous employeer who got black listed.
I was working with MNC as an contractor for 1 year under the payroll of x employer. After that i became permanent employee in that MNC.
After working 1.6 months as permanent employee , i got offer in reputed banking MNC.
I have initiated resignation and serving notice period , but now i came to know that my previous x employer was black listed and i am worried that BG verification would be failed.
Can anyone help how i should proceed in this?
My Total exp 2.6 (1 year contract + 1.6 permanent)
From United States, Sunnyvale
I am facing an issue with one of previous employeer who got black listed.
I was working with MNC as an contractor for 1 year under the payroll of x employer. After that i became permanent employee in that MNC.
After working 1.6 months as permanent employee , i got offer in reputed banking MNC.
I have initiated resignation and serving notice period , but now i came to know that my previous x employer was black listed and i am worried that BG verification would be failed.
Can anyone help how i should proceed in this?
My Total exp 2.6 (1 year contract + 1.6 permanent)
From United States, Sunnyvale
Hi Sudharsonc
Nothing wrong in working on contract with MNC under payroll of X Company. Normally practice is followed is X company will issue a appointment letter and deputation letter they clearly mention “You are deputed to xyz MNC”. This shows that you are working under umbrella of MNC but only payroll is X company just to show less headcount on permanent role.
Please remember that Background Verification is done with the payroll company. Your first year verification can be done from both the companies. Payslip can be checked from X Company and actual deputation can be checked with your current MNC employer.
You need not to worry, you need to disclose (1 + 1.6 years breakup to your next employer so that they will provide correct information to Background Verification agency.). If you are hiding any facts from next employer then this will go against you.
We also do Background Verification, before starting assignment we collect full information from company about the candidate. Our intention is only to verify information provided by the candidates to our client is correct or wrong.
So disclose facts to your new employer and give them contact details of both companies so it will be easy for them to do verification.
BrainLight HR Solutions
From India, Mumbai
18Nothing wrong in working on contract with MNC under payroll of X Company. Normally practice is followed is X company will issue a appointment letter and deputation letter they clearly mention “You are deputed to xyz MNC”. This shows that you are working under umbrella of MNC but only payroll is X company just to show less headcount on permanent role.
Please remember that Background Verification is done with the payroll company. Your first year verification can be done from both the companies. Payslip can be checked from X Company and actual deputation can be checked with your current MNC employer.
You need not to worry, you need to disclose (1 + 1.6 years breakup to your next employer so that they will provide correct information to Background Verification agency.). If you are hiding any facts from next employer then this will go against you.
We also do Background Verification, before starting assignment we collect full information from company about the candidate. Our intention is only to verify information provided by the candidates to our client is correct or wrong.
So disclose facts to your new employer and give them contact details of both companies so it will be easy for them to do verification.
BrainLight HR Solutions
From India, Mumbai
Hello BrainLight solutions ,
Thanks for your reply . But i still have confusion because my payroll X company has been back listed now. So will my next employer consider my first year experience? Also should i tell them that my X employer has been back listed now.? Will they fire me after joining their company?
I have payslips, PF no and contract ID of my X employer as an proof.
Thanks
Sudharson
From United States, Sunnyvale
Thanks for your reply . But i still have confusion because my payroll X company has been back listed now. So will my next employer consider my first year experience? Also should i tell them that my X employer has been back listed now.? Will they fire me after joining their company?
I have payslips, PF no and contract ID of my X employer as an proof.
Thanks
Sudharson
From United States, Sunnyvale
Hello Sudharson,
What BrainLight solutions is suggesting when they say 'you need to disclose (1 + 1.6 years breakup to your next employer so that they will provide correct information to Background Verification agency' is that you need to ensure that you provide the FULL & ACCURATE inputs the the new employer.
And also, you seem to be mixing-up the STATUS of the x company with the status of YOUR employment with them--it's the later that would be the focus of any Background Verification. And you can give the ref of the MNC to counter any possibility of over-focus on the x company's current status by the BC Agency....just in-case.
All the Best.
Rgds,
TS
From India, Hyderabad
What BrainLight solutions is suggesting when they say 'you need to disclose (1 + 1.6 years breakup to your next employer so that they will provide correct information to Background Verification agency' is that you need to ensure that you provide the FULL & ACCURATE inputs the the new employer.
And also, you seem to be mixing-up the STATUS of the x company with the status of YOUR employment with them--it's the later that would be the focus of any Background Verification. And you can give the ref of the MNC to counter any possibility of over-focus on the x company's current status by the BC Agency....just in-case.
All the Best.
Rgds,
TS
From India, Hyderabad
Dear Sudharson,
Further to your next query, would like to agree with Sateesh that your X company status is not relevant to your new employer. Disclose all true information to your new employer so that it will be easy for them to re-check and verify all information. (If you have not provided your correct details, you can provide them now with PF number, ID, Payslip)
Status of X company no need to disclose. It is not relevant for new employer.
Your period of employment, designation, salary, reason for leaving and your conduct will be verified, so not to worry too much.
From India, Mumbai
Further to your next query, would like to agree with Sateesh that your X company status is not relevant to your new employer. Disclose all true information to your new employer so that it will be easy for them to re-check and verify all information. (If you have not provided your correct details, you can provide them now with PF number, ID, Payslip)
Status of X company no need to disclose. It is not relevant for new employer.
Your period of employment, designation, salary, reason for leaving and your conduct will be verified, so not to worry too much.
From India, Mumbai
I worked in a company 'A' for a year and then next I worked in another company 'B' for one year and presently I am working in another company 'C'. Now I have got an offer from one of the largest MNCs, say company 'D'. I have submitted all employment related documents to 'D' for Background verification.
Company 'A' is run very very unprofessionally. It's run by unethical people. THEY ARE VERY POWERFUL PEOPLE AND ARE NOT AFRAID OF ANY LEGAL CONSEQUENCES. I have the offer letter from them signed by the then General Manager of the company who has also moved out recently. I have the Relieving Letter signed by the MD himself. Out of one year of employment, I received salaries in Cash for just first 2 months, May 2013 and June 2013. From 3rd month i.e. July 13 I received through Bank Transfers only. Again, although I received Cash in the Second Month i.e. June 13, they deducted TDS and deposited in my name. So, on my PAN Ledger for June 13 it shows a tax credit from company 'A'. That is also a proof that they paid me Salary. I had an EPF Account also there. Apart from first two months i.e. May 13 & June 13, they deducted my PF and also paid every month to the EPFO from July 13 till last month of my employment. Although Company 'A' deducted Income Tax from my salaries regularly I do not have the Form 16 from Company 'A' but again my TDS are reflected on Form 26AS which can be downloaded any time from Income Tax Website. That was the background of my employment in Company 'A'.
Now my questions are:
1. What to do if company 'A' ignores or denies to certify the details of my employment in 'A' when Background Verification Agency on behalf of Company 'D' visits there?
2. In case, company 'A' does not provide details or provide some false information that do not match with those given by me to Company 'D', will the Background Verification Agency or the Recruiting Company 'D' let me know about it? I mean will I be provided an opportunity to prove myself by providing other supporting documents like Salary Account Statements? Or they will simply put Red Mark on my profile and dismiss my appointment?
NOTE: As per initial requirement of Company 'D', I have just provided Offer Letter and Relieving Letter of company 'A'. As of now, I have not provided any extra supporting documents like Salary Account Statement. I thought I should give those documents only if they ask for and not before that unnecessarily.
Thanks
Sam Singh
From India, undefined
Company 'A' is run very very unprofessionally. It's run by unethical people. THEY ARE VERY POWERFUL PEOPLE AND ARE NOT AFRAID OF ANY LEGAL CONSEQUENCES. I have the offer letter from them signed by the then General Manager of the company who has also moved out recently. I have the Relieving Letter signed by the MD himself. Out of one year of employment, I received salaries in Cash for just first 2 months, May 2013 and June 2013. From 3rd month i.e. July 13 I received through Bank Transfers only. Again, although I received Cash in the Second Month i.e. June 13, they deducted TDS and deposited in my name. So, on my PAN Ledger for June 13 it shows a tax credit from company 'A'. That is also a proof that they paid me Salary. I had an EPF Account also there. Apart from first two months i.e. May 13 & June 13, they deducted my PF and also paid every month to the EPFO from July 13 till last month of my employment. Although Company 'A' deducted Income Tax from my salaries regularly I do not have the Form 16 from Company 'A' but again my TDS are reflected on Form 26AS which can be downloaded any time from Income Tax Website. That was the background of my employment in Company 'A'.
Now my questions are:
1. What to do if company 'A' ignores or denies to certify the details of my employment in 'A' when Background Verification Agency on behalf of Company 'D' visits there?
2. In case, company 'A' does not provide details or provide some false information that do not match with those given by me to Company 'D', will the Background Verification Agency or the Recruiting Company 'D' let me know about it? I mean will I be provided an opportunity to prove myself by providing other supporting documents like Salary Account Statements? Or they will simply put Red Mark on my profile and dismiss my appointment?
NOTE: As per initial requirement of Company 'D', I have just provided Offer Letter and Relieving Letter of company 'A'. As of now, I have not provided any extra supporting documents like Salary Account Statement. I thought I should give those documents only if they ask for and not before that unnecessarily.
Thanks
Sam Singh
From India, undefined
Dear Sam
I have gone through your query. There is nothing for you to worry. An ex-employer can not jeopardise someone's future, as the apprehensions reflected by you.
Moreover, I agree that Background Verification are carried out in a very shoddy way by people who do not have any experience of corporate world. BV serves no practical purpose. as past behaviour is not a guarantee of future acts.
There is always a first time when every offender commits anything wroung, and it may not becessarily have happened in the past.
What is the guarantee that a person with clean and good record will always perform well all his life or not do anything wrong ???
With AADHAR and so many advances in Police work, an offender can not hide forever and will always be caught, whether he remains in India or flees abroad ;ike so MANY HIGH-PROFILE OFFENDERS !!!!
So Background Verification is just a means so that the concerned consultancies can earn money, by scaring the Employers about the dangers of similar offences.
A successful BV is not a guarantee of future performance. A KYC system, as employed by the Bank is good enough.
What can an employee do, or where he can run away after a fraud, if the Employer has COPIES OF HIS AADHAR CARD, PAN CARD, BANK ACCOUNT DETAILS, PASSPORT, VOTERS ID etc etc etc.
Please relax, and if any discrepancy is put forward by the BV Agency, fight your case. Since you have NOT done anything wrong, NOR committed ANY frauds; why are you worried ???
Warm regards.
From India, Delhi
I have gone through your query. There is nothing for you to worry. An ex-employer can not jeopardise someone's future, as the apprehensions reflected by you.
Moreover, I agree that Background Verification are carried out in a very shoddy way by people who do not have any experience of corporate world. BV serves no practical purpose. as past behaviour is not a guarantee of future acts.
There is always a first time when every offender commits anything wroung, and it may not becessarily have happened in the past.
What is the guarantee that a person with clean and good record will always perform well all his life or not do anything wrong ???
With AADHAR and so many advances in Police work, an offender can not hide forever and will always be caught, whether he remains in India or flees abroad ;ike so MANY HIGH-PROFILE OFFENDERS !!!!
So Background Verification is just a means so that the concerned consultancies can earn money, by scaring the Employers about the dangers of similar offences.
A successful BV is not a guarantee of future performance. A KYC system, as employed by the Bank is good enough.
What can an employee do, or where he can run away after a fraud, if the Employer has COPIES OF HIS AADHAR CARD, PAN CARD, BANK ACCOUNT DETAILS, PASSPORT, VOTERS ID etc etc etc.
Please relax, and if any discrepancy is put forward by the BV Agency, fight your case. Since you have NOT done anything wrong, NOR committed ANY frauds; why are you worried ???
Warm regards.
From India, Delhi
Dear Raj Kumar,
Why I am worried because this would be my first job in an MNC and this is really hard earned job. I am also worried because this is the first time I am subject to a BGV and I really do not know whether Agencies/ Recruiter will let me know or not if something has not been confirmed. IF THE LET ME KNOW I CAN PUT FORWARD ALL PROOFS. I have NOT mentioned even a bit of wrong info anywhere.
Do you have any idea whether generally BGV Agency/ recruiter intimates candidates if something is not confirmed by the past employer? Please let me know how they handle such things.
Regards
Shamik
From India, undefined
Why I am worried because this would be my first job in an MNC and this is really hard earned job. I am also worried because this is the first time I am subject to a BGV and I really do not know whether Agencies/ Recruiter will let me know or not if something has not been confirmed. IF THE LET ME KNOW I CAN PUT FORWARD ALL PROOFS. I have NOT mentioned even a bit of wrong info anywhere.
Do you have any idea whether generally BGV Agency/ recruiter intimates candidates if something is not confirmed by the past employer? Please let me know how they handle such things.
Regards
Shamik
From India, undefined
BGV is all about verifying whether records provided by you is the same provided by previous employer or not. If the relieving letter is given by A Company, then they are liable to verify and send report. Moreover, if there are any exit formalities that are pending, it is liability of employer to justify exactly what is pending. There, an employer cannot add anything extra nor bring someone down.
If past employer does not confirm anything, then company will ask employee to contact previous employer at times. But they do not intimate you if only something is not confirmed by them.
As the mistake is not yours and you are not liable, you need not worry.
I have shared what I know, if any other experts can guide about this, I would be glad.
From India, Bengaluru
If past employer does not confirm anything, then company will ask employee to contact previous employer at times. But they do not intimate you if only something is not confirmed by them.
As the mistake is not yours and you are not liable, you need not worry.
I have shared what I know, if any other experts can guide about this, I would be glad.
From India, Bengaluru
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