I left my pervious company 2 Years Back without serving notice Now i am working with a new company and they open new PF account 2 years back
my previous company is saying that Pay us a huge amount against your notice period then we will sign on your PF form otherwise no Relieving and no Clearance (They are asking very huge amount 5 times of my PF so it is also not possible )
I red \"if i undersign the form with a gestated officer and submit to the pf office u can get the amount back \" but also red that is valid if we are doing in within one year of leaving the job ? Is it possible to get my PF money back i have account number.. If yes then please elaborate me the process of it.
I will be very thankful
From India, Delhi
my previous company is saying that Pay us a huge amount against your notice period then we will sign on your PF form otherwise no Relieving and no Clearance (They are asking very huge amount 5 times of my PF so it is also not possible )
I red \"if i undersign the form with a gestated officer and submit to the pf office u can get the amount back \" but also red that is valid if we are doing in within one year of leaving the job ? Is it possible to get my PF money back i have account number.. If yes then please elaborate me the process of it.
I will be very thankful
From India, Delhi
If you want to get the previous accumulations cashed, you can get your PF forms (Form 19 and 10C) attested by a Gazetted Officer or Bank Manager (manager of the Bank to which the amount is to be transferred) and send it to the PF office. But in some PF Offices, they refuse to accept this kinds of forms stating that signature of previous employer is required. I don't find any logic in it.
Alternatively, you can transfer the amount in the old account to the new PF a/c with the present employer using the transfer form(Form 13). However, the revised form 13 contains a provision for previous employer's signature. In any case, if you send it for withdrawal or transfer the previous employer can not reject it for want of notice pay or compensation which is outside the purview of PF.
Madhu.T.K
From India, Kannur
4239Alternatively, you can transfer the amount in the old account to the new PF a/c with the present employer using the transfer form(Form 13). However, the revised form 13 contains a provision for previous employer's signature. In any case, if you send it for withdrawal or transfer the previous employer can not reject it for want of notice pay or compensation which is outside the purview of PF.
Madhu.T.K
From India, Kannur
Dear Manoj,
As you have mentioned that now you are working with an another organization and you are an epf member also.
So, it is better and recommended to get the Old PF & Pension Fund Transferred to the new epf a/c. The previous employer can't interrupt it.
For this, you will have to simply fill Form - 13, get it attested by you present employer and submit it to the concern epf office, where you present epf a/c is maintained.
Hope this will help.
From India, Delhi
As you have mentioned that now you are working with an another organization and you are an epf member also.
So, it is better and recommended to get the Old PF & Pension Fund Transferred to the new epf a/c. The previous employer can't interrupt it.
For this, you will have to simply fill Form - 13, get it attested by you present employer and submit it to the concern epf office, where you present epf a/c is maintained.
Hope this will help.
From India, Delhi
If i will Fill Form 13 will my Previous employer get to know about it ?
also i only have PF account number slip don't have pension account number details..?
1 more thing my previous PF account was in delhi and current one is in noida.. is it fine ?
1 clarification i have to submit it to my current PF office which i noida ...?
From India, Delhi
also i only have PF account number slip don't have pension account number details..?
1 more thing my previous PF account was in delhi and current one is in noida.. is it fine ?
1 clarification i have to submit it to my current PF office which i noida ...?
From India, Delhi
Under the new form 13, either present or previous employer can attest the form and submit it. If the form is submitted through the previous employer, the transfer is likely to be made faster. However, if the previous employer is not going to submit in time, you can send it through the present employer also. If the present employer is submitting it, it should be submitted to the office where his accounts are maintained. I have attached form 13 for your reference. It is self explanatory. Please go through it.
Madhu.T.K
From India, Kannur
Madhu.T.K
From India, Kannur
Dear Manoj,
As Madhur Sir has already explained, but apart from it, I would also like to clear your points:
1. If you fill Form- 13, it is not necessary that your previous employer should know about it.
2. Pertaining to a PF Member, PF Fund A/c Number and Pension A/c Number are always same.
3. There is no problem, if your old a/c is in Delhi and the new one is Noida.
4. Yes, you will have to submit it at Noida.
So, in view of all above, I would like to suggest you to fill Form-13 and get it attested by you present employer.
After it, simply submit it at Noida EPF Office. It can be submitted By Hand or through Registered / Speed Post Only.
Hope this will help you. Cheers.
From India, Delhi
As Madhur Sir has already explained, but apart from it, I would also like to clear your points:
1. If you fill Form- 13, it is not necessary that your previous employer should know about it.
2. Pertaining to a PF Member, PF Fund A/c Number and Pension A/c Number are always same.
3. There is no problem, if your old a/c is in Delhi and the new one is Noida.
4. Yes, you will have to submit it at Noida.
So, in view of all above, I would like to suggest you to fill Form-13 and get it attested by you present employer.
After it, simply submit it at Noida EPF Office. It can be submitted By Hand or through Registered / Speed Post Only.
Hope this will help you. Cheers.
From India, Delhi
EPFO is not accepting hard copy of the Form 13, EPFO has introduced online transfer facility. Member need to register on members portal, check eligibility of online transfer, if both employers previsous or present has verified digital signatures. than you can submit transfer form online, attestation will be either through present employer or previous employer.
Regards
Regards
Yes, presently the transfer is online and is claimed to be a process to simplify the matter, but unfortunately, the things are getting more complicated with online system. Madhu.T.K
From India, Kannur
From India, Kannur
I tried submitting the request online however got below error.
SINCE PREVIOUS ESTABLISHMENT ID DSNHP0021754000 HAVE NOT REGISTERED THE DIGITAL SIGNATURES OF THEIR AUTHORISED SIGNATORIES, YOU CANNOT SUBMIT THE TRANSFER CLAIM ONLINE. IT IS ADVISED TO SUBMIT PHYSICAL CLAIM THROUGH PREVIOUS OR PRESENT EMPLOYER.
Please suggest "Can i fill the Hard copy and submit it now ?
From India, Delhi
SINCE PREVIOUS ESTABLISHMENT ID DSNHP0021754000 HAVE NOT REGISTERED THE DIGITAL SIGNATURES OF THEIR AUTHORISED SIGNATORIES, YOU CANNOT SUBMIT THE TRANSFER CLAIM ONLINE. IT IS ADVISED TO SUBMIT PHYSICAL CLAIM THROUGH PREVIOUS OR PRESENT EMPLOYER.
Please suggest "Can i fill the Hard copy and submit it now ?
From India, Delhi
Dear Manoj,
Since it is not mandatory to fill the form online only, you can submit the hard copy also, and it can be attested by the present employer.
As Mr. Essykkr has mentioned, there is no such circular from EPFO that they will not accept Form-13 in Hard Copy.
So, go ahead with hard copy, it will solve your problem.
From India, Delhi
Since it is not mandatory to fill the form online only, you can submit the hard copy also, and it can be attested by the present employer.
As Mr. Essykkr has mentioned, there is no such circular from EPFO that they will not accept Form-13 in Hard Copy.
So, go ahead with hard copy, it will solve your problem.
From India, Delhi
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