Thats a very good news. Congrats. So going forward, your approach will be to convince HR before joining..right ?
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Hi Friends,
I am in a similar situation. Basically, the reason behind it was that the employer was not able to provide me with the work and designation for which was agreed upon during the appointment.
After a discussion with management/HR and myself, it was agreed that they would give me 3 months of paid leave, and after that, I would resign from my post. During the 3-month period, I was free to join any company or pursue my studies as per HR. All the benefits and salary remained the same during the period as a full-time employee. i.e. 03 March 2008 was my last day in the office, and I went on paid vacation. 20 June 2008 was the officially recorded date of my last day of employment with the company.
I joined my current company on 29 March 2008 as a full-time employee and have been working with them since then. No issues so far.
1. Now, I am joining a company in the next few days that would be conducting a scan of my previous employment later. I am not sure how this will be taken by the new HR.
2. Should I go back to my previous employer and update the record to reflect 03 March as the official last day of employment before the scanning starts?
3. Though I know that there was a clear understanding with my previous employer and I didn't physically work at two places since 04 March, I still do not want to let my new employer know about this issue yet as I am not sure how they would perceive it.
4. I have the official emails and company letters clearly stating my vacation dates and final settlement date. It's just that my dates of employment are overlapping for the period from 29 March 2008 to 20 June 2008.
All experts, please advise me on how I should proceed with this. Thanks in advance for your time on it.
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I am in a similar situation. Basically, the reason behind it was that the employer was not able to provide me with the work and designation for which was agreed upon during the appointment.
After a discussion with management/HR and myself, it was agreed that they would give me 3 months of paid leave, and after that, I would resign from my post. During the 3-month period, I was free to join any company or pursue my studies as per HR. All the benefits and salary remained the same during the period as a full-time employee. i.e. 03 March 2008 was my last day in the office, and I went on paid vacation. 20 June 2008 was the officially recorded date of my last day of employment with the company.
I joined my current company on 29 March 2008 as a full-time employee and have been working with them since then. No issues so far.
1. Now, I am joining a company in the next few days that would be conducting a scan of my previous employment later. I am not sure how this will be taken by the new HR.
2. Should I go back to my previous employer and update the record to reflect 03 March as the official last day of employment before the scanning starts?
3. Though I know that there was a clear understanding with my previous employer and I didn't physically work at two places since 04 March, I still do not want to let my new employer know about this issue yet as I am not sure how they would perceive it.
4. I have the official emails and company letters clearly stating my vacation dates and final settlement date. It's just that my dates of employment are overlapping for the period from 29 March 2008 to 20 June 2008.
All experts, please advise me on how I should proceed with this. Thanks in advance for your time on it.
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Hi Mukeshkum,
Answers to your points...
#1. Now, I am joining a company in the next few days, which would be doing the previous employment scanning later. I am not sure how this will be taken by the new HR.
After the Background Check, HR will raise this question...
#2. Should I go back to my previous employer and update the record to reflect 03 March as the official last day of employment before the scanning starts?
As PF and Form16 will reflect your salary, they won't update...
#3. Though I know that there was a clear understanding with my previous employer and I didn't physically work at two places since 04th March, I still do not want to let my new employer know about this mess yet as I am not sure how they would take it up.
This will help you out from this issue; ask your previous employer to provide any document/email stating that he didn't make any secret of the 3 months' notice period and as per an emergency requirement, we asked him to join immediately.
#4. I have the official emails and company letters clearly stating my dates of vacation and final settlement date.
The Relieving Date is different from the Resigning Date, right? If you have any mail/letter from HR stating that during the notice period, you can join any company, you are 100% safe.
But my better suggestion is, please speak openly to HR in the new company about the situation so that whatever documents they request, you can produce the same. Without getting a letter/mail confirmation from the new company HR, don't resign from the existing company because as per policies, this will be treated as a violation, and they won't allow you to work.
I hope this helps clarify the situation.
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1Answers to your points...
#1. Now, I am joining a company in the next few days, which would be doing the previous employment scanning later. I am not sure how this will be taken by the new HR.
After the Background Check, HR will raise this question...
#2. Should I go back to my previous employer and update the record to reflect 03 March as the official last day of employment before the scanning starts?
As PF and Form16 will reflect your salary, they won't update...
#3. Though I know that there was a clear understanding with my previous employer and I didn't physically work at two places since 04th March, I still do not want to let my new employer know about this mess yet as I am not sure how they would take it up.
This will help you out from this issue; ask your previous employer to provide any document/email stating that he didn't make any secret of the 3 months' notice period and as per an emergency requirement, we asked him to join immediately.
#4. I have the official emails and company letters clearly stating my dates of vacation and final settlement date.
The Relieving Date is different from the Resigning Date, right? If you have any mail/letter from HR stating that during the notice period, you can join any company, you are 100% safe.
But my better suggestion is, please speak openly to HR in the new company about the situation so that whatever documents they request, you can produce the same. Without getting a letter/mail confirmation from the new company HR, don't resign from the existing company because as per policies, this will be treated as a violation, and they won't allow you to work.
I hope this helps clarify the situation.
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When there is no problem with the companies where your overlapping period was involved, there should not be any problem with a third company. Make sure to clearly mention in your resume that (a) the actual date of the last working day was 3rd Mar. 08 and (b) the official date of relieving was 20th Jun 08. For safety measures, if possible, obtain separate letters from each of the companies involved in the overlapping period, stating that the incident took place with the knowledge of the companies.
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Hi Daitaravi and Parasurampur,
Many thanks for your reply.
In the current situation, as I have already resigned from my current company and will be joining the new company next week. As mentioned earlier, I do not have any intention to hide anything, and I am sure that the current situation didn't arise due to any of my wrongdoing. However, I do not want to unnecessarily highlight this to the new company as it will definitely create a sort of panic for them.
With your inputs and applying my thoughts, I am thinking to do the following:
#1. Let the new company complete the background check MEANWHILE... I will get in touch with my previous HR and convince them to prepare a letter stating that:
- I was not physically/mentally involved in any company-related work from March 3rd, and the official leaving date is June 20th, 2008. AND
- As per the earlier arrangement and discussion, the company does not have any concerns if I joined another company after March 3rd, 2008.
#2. I will keep the above thing ready, and once my new HR gets back to me with any questions, I will present this letter to them.
Please advise on how it sounds? Thank you for your suggestions in advance.
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Many thanks for your reply.
In the current situation, as I have already resigned from my current company and will be joining the new company next week. As mentioned earlier, I do not have any intention to hide anything, and I am sure that the current situation didn't arise due to any of my wrongdoing. However, I do not want to unnecessarily highlight this to the new company as it will definitely create a sort of panic for them.
With your inputs and applying my thoughts, I am thinking to do the following:
#1. Let the new company complete the background check MEANWHILE... I will get in touch with my previous HR and convince them to prepare a letter stating that:
- I was not physically/mentally involved in any company-related work from March 3rd, and the official leaving date is June 20th, 2008. AND
- As per the earlier arrangement and discussion, the company does not have any concerns if I joined another company after March 3rd, 2008.
#2. I will keep the above thing ready, and once my new HR gets back to me with any questions, I will present this letter to them.
Please advise on how it sounds? Thank you for your suggestions in advance.
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Hi,
My friend has the same problem. For him, the relieving date of X company is November 3rd, 2011, and the joining date of Y company is also November 3rd, 2011, i.e., the same day. He is still working at Y Company. If he goes to some Z Company, will that create a problem? I humbly request you to guide on this.
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Arun.
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My friend has the same problem. For him, the relieving date of X company is November 3rd, 2011, and the joining date of Y company is also November 3rd, 2011, i.e., the same day. He is still working at Y Company. If he goes to some Z Company, will that create a problem? I humbly request you to guide on this.
Best Regards,
Arun.
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Hi All,
I am facing the same kind of situation. My last employer (Co. A) was asking me to serve a 3-month notice, but I left the organization and joined the next company (Co. B) after sending an email to HR and seniors stating, "My manager is not relieving me without giving any reason, and my last working day will be 3rd April." Therefore, I left the company on 3rd April '14 after informing security, HR, and my manager, and joined the next company on 28th April '14. In other words, I left without the consent of my manager but after informing everyone.
I also informed Co. B about this situation before joining. However, Co. A is showing my last working day as 12th June '14 and has also paid me a salary for the period from April 12th to June 12th. Consequently, I have received salaries from both companies for the overlapping period of 28th April to 12th June.
My current employer has no issues with this, but I am concerned about my future job changes. Please advise if showing an overlap in the joining date of Co. B (28th April) and the last working day of Co. A (12th June) could create problems in the future. If yes, kindly suggest a way out.
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I am facing the same kind of situation. My last employer (Co. A) was asking me to serve a 3-month notice, but I left the organization and joined the next company (Co. B) after sending an email to HR and seniors stating, "My manager is not relieving me without giving any reason, and my last working day will be 3rd April." Therefore, I left the company on 3rd April '14 after informing security, HR, and my manager, and joined the next company on 28th April '14. In other words, I left without the consent of my manager but after informing everyone.
I also informed Co. B about this situation before joining. However, Co. A is showing my last working day as 12th June '14 and has also paid me a salary for the period from April 12th to June 12th. Consequently, I have received salaries from both companies for the overlapping period of 28th April to 12th June.
My current employer has no issues with this, but I am concerned about my future job changes. Please advise if showing an overlap in the joining date of Co. B (28th April) and the last working day of Co. A (12th June) could create problems in the future. If yes, kindly suggest a way out.
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