Hi All,
I have completed my MBA in HR from a regular college. I am planning to move to ERP and thought an Oracle HRMS course (Functional) would be the best option. Currently, I am working with a software company in Chennai as a General HR and have around 2 years of experience in Recruitment and General HR. I want to know if SAP HR is better, or Oracle HRMS, or PeopleSoft HR.
Which one is in more demand currently and which one will be more helpful for an HR professional to build a career and reach the highest echelons of a professional organization? Is it worth self-studying the material or taking training in institutes? Please let me know, and if you know any good institutes that provide this training, please share the details.
During my research, I found out that Oracle University is directly conducting Oracle 11i HRMS courses. I contacted the authorized centers for Oracle and learned that this course is not offered by them and is directly handled by Oracle. The course fee is around 1 lakh. I inquired with my friends and discovered that regardless of where you take the course, they would require implementation experience for a job. Is it worth taking this course in this case?
I am also curious about the scope of SAP HR and whether it is better to do it from Siemens or opt for a local training center.
Additionally, I found out that there is no examination for the Oracle HRMS course, whereas SAP conducts certification exams for their HRMS Course. Will this impact the certificates received? Will I be "Oracle certified" and receive a certificate to that effect, or will it be more like a participation certificate?
I would appreciate some suggestions from senior members, especially Leo sir, and others as well.
Cheers,
Sushma
From India, Madras
3I have completed my MBA in HR from a regular college. I am planning to move to ERP and thought an Oracle HRMS course (Functional) would be the best option. Currently, I am working with a software company in Chennai as a General HR and have around 2 years of experience in Recruitment and General HR. I want to know if SAP HR is better, or Oracle HRMS, or PeopleSoft HR.
Which one is in more demand currently and which one will be more helpful for an HR professional to build a career and reach the highest echelons of a professional organization? Is it worth self-studying the material or taking training in institutes? Please let me know, and if you know any good institutes that provide this training, please share the details.
During my research, I found out that Oracle University is directly conducting Oracle 11i HRMS courses. I contacted the authorized centers for Oracle and learned that this course is not offered by them and is directly handled by Oracle. The course fee is around 1 lakh. I inquired with my friends and discovered that regardless of where you take the course, they would require implementation experience for a job. Is it worth taking this course in this case?
I am also curious about the scope of SAP HR and whether it is better to do it from Siemens or opt for a local training center.
Additionally, I found out that there is no examination for the Oracle HRMS course, whereas SAP conducts certification exams for their HRMS Course. Will this impact the certificates received? Will I be "Oracle certified" and receive a certificate to that effect, or will it be more like a participation certificate?
I would appreciate some suggestions from senior members, especially Leo sir, and others as well.
Cheers,
Sushma
From India, Madras
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Hi Sushma and Kapil,
All three SAP/Oracle and Peoplesoft HR have their own markets and are equally in demand, although as you know, Peoplesoft had been acquired by Oracle so Oracle will try to market its product more than Peoplesoft, as per my understanding.
If you are planning to take any course, then for Oracle and Peoplesoft, you have to contact Oracle University. They offer courses in Oracle as well as Peoplesoft. If you opt for SAP, then make sure to choose a recognized channel only.
For all the courses, you will be given a Certification. For example, if you do a Functional course, you will be HRMS Functional Certified. If you are studying project management, you will earn a PMP certification, and so on.
Hands-on work experience is a major factor. Any company where you apply would prefer candidates with similar previous experience, whether the project is a new implementation, upgrade, conversion, migration, etc.
In India, the Oracle ERP market is not as extensive, whereas you will find most companies using Peoplesoft, JD Edwards, and SAP.
However, in the near future, Oracle is likely to grow worldwide as they are now introducing Oracle Fusion.
I have also heard that SAP and Microsoft will collaborate to compete against Oracle. As you may know, Microsoft also offers ERPs like MS eCRM and MS Dynamics, which deal with Supply Chain, I believe.
All ERPs in HR have modules, and you will need to specialize in areas like Recruitment, Benefits Administration, Base Benefits, Payroll, Compensation, Performance Management, etc.
I hope this information will be helpful.
Regards,
Sourabh
From India, Delhi
All three SAP/Oracle and Peoplesoft HR have their own markets and are equally in demand, although as you know, Peoplesoft had been acquired by Oracle so Oracle will try to market its product more than Peoplesoft, as per my understanding.
If you are planning to take any course, then for Oracle and Peoplesoft, you have to contact Oracle University. They offer courses in Oracle as well as Peoplesoft. If you opt for SAP, then make sure to choose a recognized channel only.
For all the courses, you will be given a Certification. For example, if you do a Functional course, you will be HRMS Functional Certified. If you are studying project management, you will earn a PMP certification, and so on.
Hands-on work experience is a major factor. Any company where you apply would prefer candidates with similar previous experience, whether the project is a new implementation, upgrade, conversion, migration, etc.
In India, the Oracle ERP market is not as extensive, whereas you will find most companies using Peoplesoft, JD Edwards, and SAP.
However, in the near future, Oracle is likely to grow worldwide as they are now introducing Oracle Fusion.
I have also heard that SAP and Microsoft will collaborate to compete against Oracle. As you may know, Microsoft also offers ERPs like MS eCRM and MS Dynamics, which deal with Supply Chain, I believe.
All ERPs in HR have modules, and you will need to specialize in areas like Recruitment, Benefits Administration, Base Benefits, Payroll, Compensation, Performance Management, etc.
I hope this information will be helpful.
Regards,
Sourabh
From India, Delhi
Hi,
Thanks, Saurabh. I don't think there are any certified SAP courses being offered here in Chennai. I think Siemens only offers that. Thanks a lot for the information; I will inquire about that.
Regards,
Sushma
From India, Madras
Thanks, Saurabh. I don't think there are any certified SAP courses being offered here in Chennai. I think Siemens only offers that. Thanks a lot for the information; I will inquire about that.
Regards,
Sushma
From India, Madras
Kapil, Saurabh had sent the reply please check it out..You are also working in chennai itself Kapil? Regards, Sushma
From India, Madras
From India, Madras
Hi All, I am working as an HR Exe. in Pune. Can any one tell me what is the FEES for doing these certification & what is the actual duration of this courses. Bye Payal
From India, Pune
From India, Pune
Hi Deepa,
I noticed a few corrections needed in your message:
"Heyyyyyyyyyyyy" is a casual greeting, but it's better to use "Hey" with fewer 'y's for a more standard approach.
The sentence "Course fee from Siemens and other good institutes is around 2 lakhs. Be ready to shell out, but the job assurance is certain. Please get it in writing from any institute that they will provide you a job within a certain period."
Wishing you the best of luck!
Best regards,
[Your Name]
From India, Mumbai
I noticed a few corrections needed in your message:
"Heyyyyyyyyyyyy" is a casual greeting, but it's better to use "Hey" with fewer 'y's for a more standard approach.
The sentence "Course fee from Siemens and other good institutes is around 2 lakhs. Be ready to shell out, but the job assurance is certain. Please get it in writing from any institute that they will provide you a job within a certain period."
Wishing you the best of luck!
Best regards,
[Your Name]
From India, Mumbai
Hi Sourabh,
I saw your reply to Kapil and Sushma; in fact, it's very helpful for me too. I own a BCA degree with an MBA in HR & SYS and currently work for an MNC as an HR executive. Could you please let me know if Oracle Tech or functional tech would suit me better as I am interested in both? Thank you in advance.
I saw your reply to Kapil and Sushma; in fact, it's very helpful for me too. I own a BCA degree with an MBA in HR & SYS and currently work for an MNC as an HR executive. Could you please let me know if Oracle Tech or functional tech would suit me better as I am interested in both? Thank you in advance.
Hi everyone Is it compulsory to have a tecnical degree( like BCA, Comp sc ) in order to do SAP course ? Regards
From India
From India
Hey Folks,
If anyone is planning to go for SAP ERP training, then go through the recognized SAP partners. In India, there are only two of them: Genovate and Siemens. The total fees come to INR 308,000 inclusive of all taxes, which includes the SAP certification from SAP Germany. Anyone interested in knowing more about the HR module can send me an email at rohit.kumar@senasystems.com, and I will forward the details I received from Genovate Pune.
Cheers,
Rohit
From India, Pune
If anyone is planning to go for SAP ERP training, then go through the recognized SAP partners. In India, there are only two of them: Genovate and Siemens. The total fees come to INR 308,000 inclusive of all taxes, which includes the SAP certification from SAP Germany. Anyone interested in knowing more about the HR module can send me an email at rohit.kumar@senasystems.com, and I will forward the details I received from Genovate Pune.
Cheers,
Rohit
From India, Pune
No as per my discussions with authorized SAP training partner. It is advised that you should have good domain knowledge. Cheers, Rohit
From India, Pune
From India, Pune
Hi Sushma,
Hope you are doing fine. I am working in an IT consulting firm and want to do an HRMS course. I am confused about whether to choose PeopleSoft, Oracle, or SAP. I hope you have some ideas.
Let me know once you get a chance.
Thanks,
Mayur
From India, Pune
Hope you are doing fine. I am working in an IT consulting firm and want to do an HRMS course. I am confused about whether to choose PeopleSoft, Oracle, or SAP. I hope you have some ideas.
Let me know once you get a chance.
Thanks,
Mayur
From India, Pune
Iam Pawan Working as H.R Executive.Which can i opt SAP HR or Oracle H.R or Peoplesoft please guide me
From India, Hyderabad
From India, Hyderabad
SAP HR course from Siemens has gone up to 3.5+ lakhs. So, if anyone is interested in shelling out, this is the institute you can rely on. However, do check with their placement services, as I have read some negative feedback on the same.
Also, check other SAP partners if you are inclined to do an SAP course.
Cheers,
Sukhi
From India, Mumbai
Also, check other SAP partners if you are inclined to do an SAP course.
Cheers,
Sukhi
From India, Mumbai
Hi,
Please assist me with the stages of SAP (HR). I have 4 years of experience as a trainer in a BPO and 1 year as an HR professional. I have completed an MBA in HR. I am planning to pursue SAP HR but do not know about its stages. I have a 1.2-year gap in my career since getting married. Please suggest to me.
Thanks
From Oman, Muscat
Please assist me with the stages of SAP (HR). I have 4 years of experience as a trainer in a BPO and 1 year as an HR professional. I have completed an MBA in HR. I am planning to pursue SAP HR but do not know about its stages. I have a 1.2-year gap in my career since getting married. Please suggest to me.
Thanks
From Oman, Muscat
Hi All,
My name is Sreenivas. I have 7 years of experience in HR/Admin activities. I want to do a software course that would be very helpful for me. As far as I know, SAP-HR, Oracle HRMS, and PeopleSoft are the three different software options available in the market at the moment. Friends, please guide me on which one would be most beneficial for me.
Your suggestions are very valuable to me.
From India, Pune
My name is Sreenivas. I have 7 years of experience in HR/Admin activities. I want to do a software course that would be very helpful for me. As far as I know, SAP-HR, Oracle HRMS, and PeopleSoft are the three different software options available in the market at the moment. Friends, please guide me on which one would be most beneficial for me.
Your suggestions are very valuable to me.
From India, Pune
I am a BSc Maths graduate. I want to pursue an MBA in HR, but is it worth doing an MBA through distance education and a certified course in Oracle HRSIM? I also want to know a good institution in Chennai to do the Oracle HRSIM course.
From India, Chennai
From India, Chennai
Oracle HRMS and now Fusion HCM, which has Peoplesoft HR functions added, can break new ground in the future. Currently, many customers still prefer forms-based HRMS, especially with Oracle's recent release of 12.2.5. However, 12.2.4 appears to be more standard. Oracle also implements localizations for each country. In a recent implementation in Malaysia, I encountered challenges due to Oracle's lack of Malaysia localization. By enabling the Legislation code, we could access certain functions. One of the toughest aspects I faced was Malaysian Income Tax calculation. While it is somewhat similar to Singapore Tax calculation, there are still notable variations. Despite the formula provided by the Malaysian Income Tax authority (LHDN), it was quite difficult to build the logic in Oracle Fast Formula. I managed to create a workaround using User Table definition. Another issue is with SOCSO deduction, similar to EPF deduction, where the elements and logic are not built into Oracle HRMS Payroll in 12.2.4. However, Peoplesoft HR covers almost every function required for Malaysian implementation. Oracle has combined these features in Fusion HCM. From client feedback, it seems that the Infrastructure Cost for Fusion is significantly higher compared to traditional forms-based Oracle HRMS.
In general, Oracle HRMS is considered one of the best within the Oracle Ebiz suite family. Previously, when discussing HR and Payroll, Peoplesoft was often the first to come to mind. Now, with Oracle's introduction of Fusion HCM, it is poised to dominate the market, although it will require time to stabilize. I refrain from comparing SAP HR, ORACLE HRMS, and MICROSOFT. Each has its own strengths. While vendors and service providers can offer suggestions, customers should also consider factors such as cost, feasibility, user community acceptance, management support, and integration with other software. The selected product should align with their requirements without extensive customization.
From India, Hyderabad
In general, Oracle HRMS is considered one of the best within the Oracle Ebiz suite family. Previously, when discussing HR and Payroll, Peoplesoft was often the first to come to mind. Now, with Oracle's introduction of Fusion HCM, it is poised to dominate the market, although it will require time to stabilize. I refrain from comparing SAP HR, ORACLE HRMS, and MICROSOFT. Each has its own strengths. While vendors and service providers can offer suggestions, customers should also consider factors such as cost, feasibility, user community acceptance, management support, and integration with other software. The selected product should align with their requirements without extensive customization.
From India, Hyderabad
Hi Surabh,
Thanks for your comment; it's really helpful. However, the question is, is there any use in doing these certifications? Because everybody wants someone who has done some implementation. With my experience being 2 years in HR, if I do certification, my experience will be zero in that certified course. What are the chances of getting a job as a fresher in that certified course?
Please let me know if you need further assistance or clarification.
Thank you.
From India, Gurgaon
Thanks for your comment; it's really helpful. However, the question is, is there any use in doing these certifications? Because everybody wants someone who has done some implementation. With my experience being 2 years in HR, if I do certification, my experience will be zero in that certified course. What are the chances of getting a job as a fresher in that certified course?
Please let me know if you need further assistance or clarification.
Thank you.
From India, Gurgaon
Hi,
SAP HR is better. I have completed the training on SAP HR. I got trained from STERLING IT; the faculty was Mallareddy, sir. He teaches even complicated concepts very clearly, provides good real-time examples, and helps us understand industry trends and new developments in SAP HCM. Reach out to him to experience the kind of support and expertise he offers. If you are genuinely interested in learning and building a successful career in SAP HR, then contact him at STERLING IT (Ph: 7799225639, 7799225729) and have a prosperous career.
From India, Hyderabad
SAP HR is better. I have completed the training on SAP HR. I got trained from STERLING IT; the faculty was Mallareddy, sir. He teaches even complicated concepts very clearly, provides good real-time examples, and helps us understand industry trends and new developments in SAP HCM. Reach out to him to experience the kind of support and expertise he offers. If you are genuinely interested in learning and building a successful career in SAP HR, then contact him at STERLING IT (Ph: 7799225639, 7799225729) and have a prosperous career.
From India, Hyderabad
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