Service of notice for resigning from a job is an internal matter and not related to PF. If the employer does not sign the withdrawal form, there are two alternatives. If you have joined another establishment where PF is applicable, you can transfer your PF without needing the previous employer's signature. Alternatively, the withdrawal form can be signed by a Trustee member, MP, or others named in it. Proceed accordingly.
Madhu.T.K
From India, Kannur
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Dear Madhu,
As you said, PF can be withdrawn or transferred to the present employee. For transfer, previous employer attestation is not required, I agree, but the PF authorities are returning to the previous employer for want of Form-5, Form-10, and Form-3A. While signing the withdrawal form by Trustee Member, MP, or Bank Manager, they don't have the details about Form-5, 10, and 3A, and they simply attest the signature of the Member. However, after submitting Form 10C and Form 19, PF authorities are returning the same for want of Form-5, 10, and 3A. It is my personal experience while processing the Withdrawal and Form-13 (Revised).
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Rapolu HS
From India, Hyderabad
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As you said, PF can be withdrawn or transferred to the present employee. For transfer, previous employer attestation is not required, I agree, but the PF authorities are returning to the previous employer for want of Form-5, Form-10, and Form-3A. While signing the withdrawal form by Trustee Member, MP, or Bank Manager, they don't have the details about Form-5, 10, and 3A, and they simply attest the signature of the Member. However, after submitting Form 10C and Form 19, PF authorities are returning the same for want of Form-5, 10, and 3A. It is my personal experience while processing the Withdrawal and Form-13 (Revised).
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Rapolu HS
From India, Hyderabad
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Form 10 is sent to EPFO along with other monthly statements. Therefore, it should have been sent in the return month of one's resignation itself. Similarly, form 5 pertains to details of persons joining the EPF scheme in the wage month, which should also have been sent in the return month of his joining. The only thing is that details of contributions remitted in respect of the employee for the current year (if the resignation takes place in between) may not be available. It is the problem of EPFO to find out the same from the monthly returns (Form 3A).
In effect, the EPFO is not supposed to send it back to the employer for his signature. An employee is withdrawing his eligible amount, and the amount is computed as per the record of the EPFO. If the employee was removed from service for severe misconduct, the employer could have mentioned the same in form 10 itself. Therefore, I do not think that a signature by the employer should be insisted upon for withdrawal.
Madhu.T.K
From India, Kannur
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In effect, the EPFO is not supposed to send it back to the employer for his signature. An employee is withdrawing his eligible amount, and the amount is computed as per the record of the EPFO. If the employee was removed from service for severe misconduct, the employer could have mentioned the same in form 10 itself. Therefore, I do not think that a signature by the employer should be insisted upon for withdrawal.
Madhu.T.K
From India, Kannur
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Dear Sender,
Strictly speaking, no one can prevent you from withdrawing your PF. You can withdraw your PF by filling out Form 10c and 19 and having it attested by either a bank manager, a gazetted officer, or a magistrate. Then, submit the forms along with your covering letter to the RPFC.
L. Kumar
From India, Madras
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Strictly speaking, no one can prevent you from withdrawing your PF. You can withdraw your PF by filling out Form 10c and 19 and having it attested by either a bank manager, a gazetted officer, or a magistrate. Then, submit the forms along with your covering letter to the RPFC.
L. Kumar
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no you cannot withdraw your p.f. amount without consent of employer. you can transfer the p.f. amount in your current pf. account no. by the consent your present employer neha gupta from faridabad
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Form No. 3 A
It is the P.F. form in which we show the contribution of both the employee and employer of the current month. At the end of the year, i.e., 1st March, we send it to the Regional Provident Fund Commission along with Form No. 6.
Mahender Gupta from Faridabad
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It is the P.F. form in which we show the contribution of both the employee and employer of the current month. At the end of the year, i.e., 1st March, we send it to the Regional Provident Fund Commission along with Form No. 6.
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Sir,
My native place is Sikkim, and I had worked in Bangalore. Due to some family problems, I left my job without giving any resignation. I am unable to go back to Bangalore, and after two years, I tried contacting my employer about my EPF account number as I need it to fill the form at my nearest EPF office. However, I have been unsuccessful in reaching him.
So, what can I do in order to obtain my EPF account number?
From India, Kolkata
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My native place is Sikkim, and I had worked in Bangalore. Due to some family problems, I left my job without giving any resignation. I am unable to go back to Bangalore, and after two years, I tried contacting my employer about my EPF account number as I need it to fill the form at my nearest EPF office. However, I have been unsuccessful in reaching him.
So, what can I do in order to obtain my EPF account number?
From India, Kolkata
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I was working in an India-based MNC in Gurgaon and was posted at their project site in Orissa. On 03.11.2013, I resigned and left the site. However, the company has neither provided me with clearance (NOC) nor issued a relieving letter. My full and final settlement is also pending.
Now, when attempting to withdraw my PF and contacting the Company's PF Cell in Vikhroli, Mumbai, they are requesting a Relieving Letter and a copy of my PAN.
The PF cell has also sent me two PDF forms. One is an Application addressed to "To The Secretary, ABC Company Ltd. (Name Changed), Provident Fund, Vikhroli, Mumbai" for the settlement of PF Dues. The second form is an "Advance Stamped Receipt" where the Bank Name is mentioned, with space for cheque number and date. The Advance Stamped Receipt needs to be attested by a Gazetted Officer or Notary Public.
I reached out over the phone for clarification, and they mentioned that the PF has been deposited in the Company's separate PF trust. Hence, no Form 19 & 10C are required for withdrawal. Only the Application to The Secretary needs to be sent along with the Advance Stamped Receipt, Relieving Letter, and a copy of the PAN Card.
I am perplexed as to why they are sharing this PF trust story. Your help in this matter would be greatly appreciated.
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Debasish Chakraborty
(M) 9531793564
Kolkata
From India, Kolkata
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Now, when attempting to withdraw my PF and contacting the Company's PF Cell in Vikhroli, Mumbai, they are requesting a Relieving Letter and a copy of my PAN.
The PF cell has also sent me two PDF forms. One is an Application addressed to "To The Secretary, ABC Company Ltd. (Name Changed), Provident Fund, Vikhroli, Mumbai" for the settlement of PF Dues. The second form is an "Advance Stamped Receipt" where the Bank Name is mentioned, with space for cheque number and date. The Advance Stamped Receipt needs to be attested by a Gazetted Officer or Notary Public.
I reached out over the phone for clarification, and they mentioned that the PF has been deposited in the Company's separate PF trust. Hence, no Form 19 & 10C are required for withdrawal. Only the Application to The Secretary needs to be sent along with the Advance Stamped Receipt, Relieving Letter, and a copy of the PAN Card.
I am perplexed as to why they are sharing this PF trust story. Your help in this matter would be greatly appreciated.
Regards,
Debasish Chakraborty
(M) 9531793564
Kolkata
From India, Kolkata
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One of our employees left our organization. Later on, he applied for PF accumulation by getting attested from the Bank Manager. However, the PF authorities returned the application to us, and as the employer, we attested it, and the concerned person received the PF accumulation.
In the event the organization is closed for any reason, such as a lockout or strike, the PF accumulation can be withdrawn with attestation from external parties.
SNC, JAMSHEDPUR
From India, Ranchi
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In the event the organization is closed for any reason, such as a lockout or strike, the PF accumulation can be withdrawn with attestation from external parties.
SNC, JAMSHEDPUR
From India, Ranchi
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