Dear Mr. Ravi,
Agreed that there are two sides to a coin and we shouldn't consider only one person's point of view. Maybe the employee is at fault and the boss is right as you suggested.
But you should read all the other posts/comments made by this "SMART ALEC - BADLOOSER" (or so he considers himself), then you will understand why everybody reacted in such a manner. For every query asked by members, he only has useless comments to give. There are other members who give comments that do not always favor the person who poses those queries because there are two facets to everything. But nobody gives such unwarranted, outrageous comments.
Maybe now you will feel that since BADLOOSER is being frank, we should empathize with him and understand his viewpoint.
From India, Bharuch
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17Agreed that there are two sides to a coin and we shouldn't consider only one person's point of view. Maybe the employee is at fault and the boss is right as you suggested.
But you should read all the other posts/comments made by this "SMART ALEC - BADLOOSER" (or so he considers himself), then you will understand why everybody reacted in such a manner. For every query asked by members, he only has useless comments to give. There are other members who give comments that do not always favor the person who poses those queries because there are two facets to everything. But nobody gives such unwarranted, outrageous comments.
Maybe now you will feel that since BADLOOSER is being frank, we should empathize with him and understand his viewpoint.
From India, Bharuch
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Dear Deepthi,
I'm also facing a similar problem with my current boss. I have tried to do most of the things that you've suggested, e.g., proactively coming up with work, but no, I haven't had a one-on-one discussion with her (because I fear for my job in these uncertain times). The main problem I feel is poor communication between us because she's in Mumbai and I'm in Delhi. While she does appreciate me, it's usually for unimportant things. Even though I've explicitly asked her to involve me in things, she doesn't do it.
Sometimes I wonder if she's insecure because she isn't an MBA, hasn't worked with MNCs as opposed to me, who has even worked abroad. But I'll never move to Mumbai, and also, I think I still need guidance from her as she is definitely far more experienced than me. She does keep me in the loop of what she's doing but doesn't involve me, doesn't ask my opinions, we don't do any brainstorming, etc., and whatever information she does share with me doesn't help me much in my work either.
She's not well-versed with all aspects of HR (we're HR professionals) and is outsourcing everything even though I've shared with her my interest in doing it internally. I just feel that I'm learning nothing at all.
Of late, we did meet up due to conferences, etc., and I thought we did bond, but all is back to square one now that I'm back.
She complains of being overworked all the time but still wants to do it all herself and not delegate anything to me.
She reports to the CEO, and I don't see any point in taking it up with him as he thinks that she's an 'Angel'!!
Please advise how I can overcome the physical distance and create a good and beneficial relationship with my boss so she can delegate work, and I can learn.
From India, Delhi
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I'm also facing a similar problem with my current boss. I have tried to do most of the things that you've suggested, e.g., proactively coming up with work, but no, I haven't had a one-on-one discussion with her (because I fear for my job in these uncertain times). The main problem I feel is poor communication between us because she's in Mumbai and I'm in Delhi. While she does appreciate me, it's usually for unimportant things. Even though I've explicitly asked her to involve me in things, she doesn't do it.
Sometimes I wonder if she's insecure because she isn't an MBA, hasn't worked with MNCs as opposed to me, who has even worked abroad. But I'll never move to Mumbai, and also, I think I still need guidance from her as she is definitely far more experienced than me. She does keep me in the loop of what she's doing but doesn't involve me, doesn't ask my opinions, we don't do any brainstorming, etc., and whatever information she does share with me doesn't help me much in my work either.
She's not well-versed with all aspects of HR (we're HR professionals) and is outsourcing everything even though I've shared with her my interest in doing it internally. I just feel that I'm learning nothing at all.
Of late, we did meet up due to conferences, etc., and I thought we did bond, but all is back to square one now that I'm back.
She complains of being overworked all the time but still wants to do it all herself and not delegate anything to me.
She reports to the CEO, and I don't see any point in taking it up with him as he thinks that she's an 'Angel'!!
Please advise how I can overcome the physical distance and create a good and beneficial relationship with my boss so she can delegate work, and I can learn.
From India, Delhi
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I support face-to-face communication with your boss. Just be open and make him aware that you can see what is happening around. Try to be obedient and do what is required of you while also being assertive.
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Dear Arnold,
Here, once again, you are underestimating your boss. You think you are smarter and more knowledgeable than her, but in HR, there are many people working without professional qualifications and enjoying their time in air-conditioned rooms. This is sad; I even pity you, dear.
Do your best. I hope all organizations follow strict practices while recruiting and remove all non-MBA HRs from their teams. Maybe the non-MBA HRs in this forum may get angry at me, BUT I DON'T CARE :-x
From India, Pune
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Here, once again, you are underestimating your boss. You think you are smarter and more knowledgeable than her, but in HR, there are many people working without professional qualifications and enjoying their time in air-conditioned rooms. This is sad; I even pity you, dear.
Do your best. I hope all organizations follow strict practices while recruiting and remove all non-MBA HRs from their teams. Maybe the non-MBA HRs in this forum may get angry at me, BUT I DON'T CARE :-x
From India, Pune
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Dear Arnold,
Your problem is lack of experience and innovative skills to navigate the corporate HR agenda by sending good proposals for approvals. When I was initially working at the unit level, I had the same issue with corporate HR vice presidents. However, I proposed many new initiatives with the consent of my unit-level management. As a result, I gained corporate approval and subsequently succeeded in elevating my position in management.
Despite being below the corporate HR head, I was always consulted before any approval on HR issues. This practice helped us build faith and trust in our abilities within the corporate structure.
You have to overcome this aspect. As for this post, there is nothing new; millions of such quotes will follow because the survival of the fittest is a law of business and nature, of course.
Entire responses to this post are overly sympathetic, overacting, and overreacting.
Badlu
From Saudi Arabia
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Your problem is lack of experience and innovative skills to navigate the corporate HR agenda by sending good proposals for approvals. When I was initially working at the unit level, I had the same issue with corporate HR vice presidents. However, I proposed many new initiatives with the consent of my unit-level management. As a result, I gained corporate approval and subsequently succeeded in elevating my position in management.
Despite being below the corporate HR head, I was always consulted before any approval on HR issues. This practice helped us build faith and trust in our abilities within the corporate structure.
You have to overcome this aspect. As for this post, there is nothing new; millions of such quotes will follow because the survival of the fittest is a law of business and nature, of course.
Entire responses to this post are overly sympathetic, overacting, and overreacting.
Badlu
From Saudi Arabia
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I am also facing the same problem like the login name "Please Help". I should not say anything against my immediate boss because he is my senior. But the problem I am facing is that he is very diplomatic. If he is giving me some instructions now, after some time or some days he will say to me that he did not give me any sort of such instruction. I really face a problem at that particular moment.
Moreover, he never appreciates my work. He appreciates others' work. I really get demotivated. Please suggest.
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Anindya
From India, Guwahati
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Moreover, he never appreciates my work. He appreciates others' work. I really get demotivated. Please suggest.
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Anindya
From India, Guwahati
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I guess this posting is too late. But I don't find anything wrong or humiliating in what Mr. Bad Loser earlier commented. It's left to the user to take the message the literal way or understand what he meant between the lines. It just meant you are overreacting. Stay cool and focused.
From India, Madras
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From India, Madras
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Dear Friend,
I appreciate and support your response to the comments of Mr. Bad Loser! Really, CiteHR should take some initiative to remove such bad advisors from all its blogs! Every starter like me and many others need valuable assistance from seniors or colleagues on various routine HR administrative queries. We get the required support, assistance, and motivation here on almost all of our queries. Demotivating remarks from abusive users will hamper the very purpose of this blog. So all Bad Losers should seriously change their attitude, if not, stop visiting CiteHR!
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From India, Hyderabad
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I appreciate and support your response to the comments of Mr. Bad Loser! Really, CiteHR should take some initiative to remove such bad advisors from all its blogs! Every starter like me and many others need valuable assistance from seniors or colleagues on various routine HR administrative queries. We get the required support, assistance, and motivation here on almost all of our queries. Demotivating remarks from abusive users will hamper the very purpose of this blog. So all Bad Losers should seriously change their attitude, if not, stop visiting CiteHR!
Regards
From India, Hyderabad
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