Thank you mr.vijay and he is a fresher and i had a discussion with MD today as per him the same salary what we offered is to be given and he told to me that he is a fresher and tell him to work in any big groups or tell him to work in foreign for talks we have decided to see him and face him legally...
Regards,
Ramkishore
Asst Manager-HR
From India, Bangalore
53Regards,
Ramkishore
Asst Manager-HR
From India, Bangalore
I think the best measure is to take advice from someone above this asst. director - showing your concern - as if taking permission. If the authority higher up says yes - you really have nothing you can do from your position. Be in the system - move up the ladder where you can change things. For now do what the bosses tell you - there may be more to the story - why the asst director wants this person hired.
Ram, Your move to get fully compliant with the law is a very sound one. We do compliance audit for number of companies Can help with this if you need. Please send me a PM if u think we can help
From India, Mumbai
From India, Mumbai
Dear Mr. Ram Kishore,
The Asst. director of Factories can recommend some one for the job but he can not dictate you to pay the salary that the candidate demands. Hence you can staignt away tell him the maximum CTC you can offer to the candidate and if still he insists you to pay the higher salary you can politely say NO. If necessary you can explain him that fixing higher CTC will affect the others. If you oblige him and fix higher CTC you may face the following problems in future.
1. It demotivates the other employees in your organisation which leads to dissatisfation among them and it may further lead to attrition.
2. Tomorrow some other powerful government officer may ask you to recruit his candidate like in the present case. Then where is the end to it.
3. If you take the candidate and remove him after some time on the ground of improper performance then also the Asst. Director of Factories gets annoyed.
Regards,
D. Phani Kumar
DGM- HR.
The Asst. director of Factories can recommend some one for the job but he can not dictate you to pay the salary that the candidate demands. Hence you can staignt away tell him the maximum CTC you can offer to the candidate and if still he insists you to pay the higher salary you can politely say NO. If necessary you can explain him that fixing higher CTC will affect the others. If you oblige him and fix higher CTC you may face the following problems in future.
1. It demotivates the other employees in your organisation which leads to dissatisfation among them and it may further lead to attrition.
2. Tomorrow some other powerful government officer may ask you to recruit his candidate like in the present case. Then where is the end to it.
3. If you take the candidate and remove him after some time on the ground of improper performance then also the Asst. Director of Factories gets annoyed.
Regards,
D. Phani Kumar
DGM- HR.
Hi,
He can be recruited as a fresher and given achiveable targets so that during the performance appraisal you will have the judgement. Teach him well and keep him only under your custody a day will come som that you have to send him for licence renewal or any other factory inspector/labour dept work so that he must only handle the same.
There you are right by giving him an opportunity to deal with labour dept, recruit him as Asst Labour executive with basic works related to HR and labour dept only.
Bet of luck, don't worry about the inspection or his attitude, if you try to meet him at least twice in a month, he will finally realise and talk to you smoothly because he needs that from you ...............
Dr.Ashokan
Sr.Manager Compliance
From India, Bangalore
He can be recruited as a fresher and given achiveable targets so that during the performance appraisal you will have the judgement. Teach him well and keep him only under your custody a day will come som that you have to send him for licence renewal or any other factory inspector/labour dept work so that he must only handle the same.
There you are right by giving him an opportunity to deal with labour dept, recruit him as Asst Labour executive with basic works related to HR and labour dept only.
Bet of luck, don't worry about the inspection or his attitude, if you try to meet him at least twice in a month, he will finally realise and talk to you smoothly because he needs that from you ...............
Dr.Ashokan
Sr.Manager Compliance
From India, Bangalore
Respected Ramkishor Sir,
Let us know that for which location is Asst. Director Doing like this. Please don't give him any task & told to sit for Silent Training.
Please don't Afraid for inspection.
One story i want to share with all of you that:- We are just setup a new die casting plant so for that we required one Certificate is CTE (Concern to Establishment) from pollution department the concern person want one lack for CTEonly & company employees say to him at that point of time to stop construction & say to lock that factory with a notice of we are not getting permission from pollution department after completing whole requirements of pollution. Send one copy to that pollution Person also & after three days he got a call that you are allow for CTE.
So plz don't afraid but share that for which location he is Asst. Directories of Factories.
Regards
Kuldeep Singh
From India, Dehra Dun
Let us know that for which location is Asst. Director Doing like this. Please don't give him any task & told to sit for Silent Training.
Please don't Afraid for inspection.
One story i want to share with all of you that:- We are just setup a new die casting plant so for that we required one Certificate is CTE (Concern to Establishment) from pollution department the concern person want one lack for CTEonly & company employees say to him at that point of time to stop construction & say to lock that factory with a notice of we are not getting permission from pollution department after completing whole requirements of pollution. Send one copy to that pollution Person also & after three days he got a call that you are allow for CTE.
So plz don't afraid but share that for which location he is Asst. Directories of Factories.
Regards
Kuldeep Singh
From India, Dehra Dun
Dear HR friend,
Our Company is having a production plant in Sikkim but from last 2-3 month Govt of Sikkim is sending notification frequently for regularistion of contractual Manpower and to remove contractor System. But we have some norms for recruitng employees in company roll such as Education,Skill and Behaviour etc, and the contractual Manpower does not full fill our requirement. Suggest me what to do?????????
Waiting for valuable sugestion from you all.
From India, Mumbai
Our Company is having a production plant in Sikkim but from last 2-3 month Govt of Sikkim is sending notification frequently for regularistion of contractual Manpower and to remove contractor System. But we have some norms for recruitng employees in company roll such as Education,Skill and Behaviour etc, and the contractual Manpower does not full fill our requirement. Suggest me what to do?????????
Waiting for valuable sugestion from you all.
From India, Mumbai
Dear All,
Thank you so much Mr.kuldeep singh, Dr.ashokan, Mr.phani kumar& saswat banarjee for your valuable post i am not scared of him i dare whom so ever Director comes for inspection because i am good at statutory and facing it is not a problem i try to implement all these and bang in a right situation
Regards,
Ramkishore
Asst Manager-HR
From India, Bangalore
Thank you so much Mr.kuldeep singh, Dr.ashokan, Mr.phani kumar& saswat banarjee for your valuable post i am not scared of him i dare whom so ever Director comes for inspection because i am good at statutory and facing it is not a problem i try to implement all these and bang in a right situation
Regards,
Ramkishore
Asst Manager-HR
From India, Bangalore
Dear Dhananjoymazumdar, i am not clear with the post you need to regularization of contractual manpower or to remove contract system what exactly you mean??? Regards, Ramkishore Asst Manager-HR
From India, Bangalore
From India, Bangalore
Dear Mr Ram,
Do you want to encourage corruption by acceeding to the request of Statutory Authorities. If you are complying with all the statutory provisions in your premises, you need not bother about him. In case of any non-compliances bring it to the notice of your management and take appropriate corrective measures, which may cost you less than accommodating the request of ADF. 100% statutory compliance is better than favouring statutory authorites.
You send a mail to ADF stating that the person referred by him has been interviewed and he can be engaged for post and salry as per your company's policy. You can also send an offer letter to the candidate parallaly. In case the candidate rejects the offer, you can also communicate to ADF.
In case he replies, preserve as a document for seeking favour from you, which can be used against him at a later date, if he creates any problem. However, before resorting to this you keep your top management posted of this and proceed.
From India, Mumbai
Do you want to encourage corruption by acceeding to the request of Statutory Authorities. If you are complying with all the statutory provisions in your premises, you need not bother about him. In case of any non-compliances bring it to the notice of your management and take appropriate corrective measures, which may cost you less than accommodating the request of ADF. 100% statutory compliance is better than favouring statutory authorites.
You send a mail to ADF stating that the person referred by him has been interviewed and he can be engaged for post and salry as per your company's policy. You can also send an offer letter to the candidate parallaly. In case the candidate rejects the offer, you can also communicate to ADF.
In case he replies, preserve as a document for seeking favour from you, which can be used against him at a later date, if he creates any problem. However, before resorting to this you keep your top management posted of this and proceed.
From India, Mumbai
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