Dear Saswata,
Thank you very much for your valuable input.
But i would like to tel you the documents are in place from the time i have joined. Yes i am an expat and comparatively my cost to the company is not high as i am on my spouse visa and we do not have any other perks apart from salary. I have all the proof what i have done from my first day till today and my immediate manager knows about it. I am alone handling Maintaining employee files, updating the details in soft copy, recruitment, on boarding, induction,issuing appointment letters, coordinating with PRO for new visas, visa renewals and labour card processes, payroll, issuing required letters to employees(Salary certificates, NOC's, Service certificates etc). I am not accepting my boss to pat me, but he is aware of the situation. He never tells us what exactly he wants us to do anything. But whenever we do and take it to him, he complaints saying this is not correct that is not correct. Sometimes, he keeps changing what he himself has told. He forgets also.
I am an MBA graduate with HR specialization with around 4 years experience in India. I have worked with different bosses before and never faced any issue like this..
We have very less freedom to do or introduce anything new. As per me i am doing my job perfectly more than what is expected. If only i had issues with my boss then i would have thought of looking for other job, but many other people are also facing the same problem. I believe learning is a never ending process and we have to keep updating the latest trends.
Warm regards,
Pooja
From India, Bangalore
3Thank you very much for your valuable input.
But i would like to tel you the documents are in place from the time i have joined. Yes i am an expat and comparatively my cost to the company is not high as i am on my spouse visa and we do not have any other perks apart from salary. I have all the proof what i have done from my first day till today and my immediate manager knows about it. I am alone handling Maintaining employee files, updating the details in soft copy, recruitment, on boarding, induction,issuing appointment letters, coordinating with PRO for new visas, visa renewals and labour card processes, payroll, issuing required letters to employees(Salary certificates, NOC's, Service certificates etc). I am not accepting my boss to pat me, but he is aware of the situation. He never tells us what exactly he wants us to do anything. But whenever we do and take it to him, he complaints saying this is not correct that is not correct. Sometimes, he keeps changing what he himself has told. He forgets also.
I am an MBA graduate with HR specialization with around 4 years experience in India. I have worked with different bosses before and never faced any issue like this..
We have very less freedom to do or introduce anything new. As per me i am doing my job perfectly more than what is expected. If only i had issues with my boss then i would have thought of looking for other job, but many other people are also facing the same problem. I believe learning is a never ending process and we have to keep updating the latest trends.
Warm regards,
Pooja
From India, Bangalore
Dear Dinesh sir,
I apologise if there is anything wrong in my post because i posted it when i was totally frustrated. I agree with your point as may be there will be difference of personalities.
I will sit and analyse where things are going wrong and what is his psychology.
To be specific on the systems and procedures, there was no format of any offer/appointment letter, experience letter, no proper employee database, no proper salary bill and all employee files were incomplete, no basic policies of leave, attendance.
I will try my best to perform to his expectations, if things remain the same then i have no choice. Yes i should be cautious before taking up my next job.
Regards,
Pooja
From India, Bangalore
I apologise if there is anything wrong in my post because i posted it when i was totally frustrated. I agree with your point as may be there will be difference of personalities.
I will sit and analyse where things are going wrong and what is his psychology.
To be specific on the systems and procedures, there was no format of any offer/appointment letter, experience letter, no proper employee database, no proper salary bill and all employee files were incomplete, no basic policies of leave, attendance.
I will try my best to perform to his expectations, if things remain the same then i have no choice. Yes i should be cautious before taking up my next job.
Regards,
Pooja
From India, Bangalore
Dear Seniors,
I thank all for their support and feedback. I definitely will try to look into my performance once again and try to keep all the records of my achievements even if it is small. So i will be having proof to show my Boss.
Regards,
Pooja
From India, Bangalore
I thank all for their support and feedback. I definitely will try to look into my performance once again and try to keep all the records of my achievements even if it is small. So i will be having proof to show my Boss.
Regards,
Pooja
From India, Bangalore
Rules of Management: 1. The boss is always right. 2. If the boss is wrong, refer to Rule 1.
From Australia, Melbourne
From Australia, Melbourne
Pooja,
Please read your post again.
You are MBA in HR, with 4 years of experience (now 6), in a Company that already had systems in place.
You have worked before so you are not new and untrained, as you implied in the first 2 posts.
I don't know why you didn't dosclose the facts in the first place. It would have saved members from putting useless remarks that now look out of context.
So even with these things in place you are failing to deliver. You are making mistakes and notmdoingnwhat is required of you.
I have clients in Dubai. The things you are doing are always handled by a single person (Ofocurse it depends on how large the Company is). So you are not doing anything extraordinary. But if you fail to do your job, then in each case the work suffers. You have ofcourse not told us what mistakes your boss finds in your work or given any example of his so called unfair criticism.
The last part of the post intrigued me. If it was you alone, you would have changed your job. But since many others don't like the boss, you do not wish to change your job. So what's the real intention ? You are expecting advice on how to get the boss replaced ?
From India, Mumbai
Please read your post again.
You are MBA in HR, with 4 years of experience (now 6), in a Company that already had systems in place.
You have worked before so you are not new and untrained, as you implied in the first 2 posts.
I don't know why you didn't dosclose the facts in the first place. It would have saved members from putting useless remarks that now look out of context.
So even with these things in place you are failing to deliver. You are making mistakes and notmdoingnwhat is required of you.
I have clients in Dubai. The things you are doing are always handled by a single person (Ofocurse it depends on how large the Company is). So you are not doing anything extraordinary. But if you fail to do your job, then in each case the work suffers. You have ofcourse not told us what mistakes your boss finds in your work or given any example of his so called unfair criticism.
The last part of the post intrigued me. If it was you alone, you would have changed your job. But since many others don't like the boss, you do not wish to change your job. So what's the real intention ? You are expecting advice on how to get the boss replaced ?
From India, Mumbai
Pooja did not reply to my queries. If one do not consider anything seriously and is in the habit of only raising a problem, Obviously Bosses do not like problem but love solutions. She should not have apathy to Cite discussions.
From India, Ahmedabad
From India, Ahmedabad
Dear Pooja,
As a friendly suggestion, please refrain from using sms/whatsApp language in such important posts. My comment may sound trivial to you now but will definitely help you in the long run and to establish yourself as a professional.
All the best!
Kind Regards,
Yashodhan Dere
From India, Mumbai
As a friendly suggestion, please refrain from using sms/whatsApp language in such important posts. My comment may sound trivial to you now but will definitely help you in the long run and to establish yourself as a professional.
All the best!
Kind Regards,
Yashodhan Dere
From India, Mumbai
Hello Ms. Pooja,
Handling difficult situations, is an art to learn & we should always try to achieve this art or skill right from our mistakes.
No one can be expected to have complete command of all the policies. We feel HR is a very tricky & sensitive field where you need to make a balance between the Management & the other Managers alonwith staff.
We too use to have some unwanted type of pressures from different corners. But with some thought provoking tacts, use to handle the situations.
Hope you might have got an idea, how to come out of such difficult situation(s).
Regards
'Optimus Consultants'
09672616784
From India
Handling difficult situations, is an art to learn & we should always try to achieve this art or skill right from our mistakes.
No one can be expected to have complete command of all the policies. We feel HR is a very tricky & sensitive field where you need to make a balance between the Management & the other Managers alonwith staff.
We too use to have some unwanted type of pressures from different corners. But with some thought provoking tacts, use to handle the situations.
Hope you might have got an idea, how to come out of such difficult situation(s).
Regards
'Optimus Consultants'
09672616784
From India
Dear Saswata,
I have no intention to replace anyone.
I said i am new to that organisation and i was new to dubai labour laws. Yes was not untrained to hr but i was untrained to uae labour laws and the strength of our organisation around 275.
I will quote some examples,
1) We are into education industry. We recruit teachers. The interviews will be conducted by academic team and based on their feedback we take the final approval from my boss. Once i had scheduled an interview for a teacher and as per principles instruction i was taking the candidate to principal cabin and in the middle of the way my boss met me, and asked who is she and what is happening and all. I explained him. In front of the candidate he started telling me why you did not inform me about schedule and asked me to send the candidate back and call tomorrow and started teling hr is not working properly. It was embarrassing and painful infront of the candidate.
2) Once i had called another candidate for assistant teacher position. For assistant teacher we recruit even graduates. At that time there was an vacancy for secretary also. And the candidate had the similar experience. I checked with the candidate whether she is interested in the vacant position. She was fine. So i took her cv to my sir and explained him. When i took her to him he started asking her when u applied for the job how many times in applied. She has told she has uploaded d resume in the website several times. He wanted to know the exact dates. We get cvs from our website, will contact those candidates only if there is any vacancy. Then he called me to his chamber and started asking she has sent the cv so many times then why dint you call her earlier. Again same statement hr is not working, hr is not correct in front of the candidate.
3) He specified us a format for salary bill in the beginning. After few months he is telling you should not put this column you should not put this column. Whatever you do is wrong. When i said its as per his guidelines then he started telling no no i dint say like this. I still have the corrected papers with me.
4) Even if we take a small letter or file for his signature he starts telling its not correct. For example we follow a employee information sheet format in each employee personal file which is approved by him. But every time i take any new employee file for his signature he tell different changes.
To be honest i am very much comfortable and enjoy my work irrespective of pressure. I have never said that i am doing anything extraordinary. But every time someone says you are wrong it hits the confidence and morale. I dont feel changing the job will be the solution. I want to correct myself if i am really wrong. As per me i am doing justice to my profile. I am not telling i am perfect. But definitely willing to learn adopt good things.
Thanks and regards,
Pooja
From India, Bangalore
I have no intention to replace anyone.
I said i am new to that organisation and i was new to dubai labour laws. Yes was not untrained to hr but i was untrained to uae labour laws and the strength of our organisation around 275.
I will quote some examples,
1) We are into education industry. We recruit teachers. The interviews will be conducted by academic team and based on their feedback we take the final approval from my boss. Once i had scheduled an interview for a teacher and as per principles instruction i was taking the candidate to principal cabin and in the middle of the way my boss met me, and asked who is she and what is happening and all. I explained him. In front of the candidate he started telling me why you did not inform me about schedule and asked me to send the candidate back and call tomorrow and started teling hr is not working properly. It was embarrassing and painful infront of the candidate.
2) Once i had called another candidate for assistant teacher position. For assistant teacher we recruit even graduates. At that time there was an vacancy for secretary also. And the candidate had the similar experience. I checked with the candidate whether she is interested in the vacant position. She was fine. So i took her cv to my sir and explained him. When i took her to him he started asking her when u applied for the job how many times in applied. She has told she has uploaded d resume in the website several times. He wanted to know the exact dates. We get cvs from our website, will contact those candidates only if there is any vacancy. Then he called me to his chamber and started asking she has sent the cv so many times then why dint you call her earlier. Again same statement hr is not working, hr is not correct in front of the candidate.
3) He specified us a format for salary bill in the beginning. After few months he is telling you should not put this column you should not put this column. Whatever you do is wrong. When i said its as per his guidelines then he started telling no no i dint say like this. I still have the corrected papers with me.
4) Even if we take a small letter or file for his signature he starts telling its not correct. For example we follow a employee information sheet format in each employee personal file which is approved by him. But every time i take any new employee file for his signature he tell different changes.
To be honest i am very much comfortable and enjoy my work irrespective of pressure. I have never said that i am doing anything extraordinary. But every time someone says you are wrong it hits the confidence and morale. I dont feel changing the job will be the solution. I want to correct myself if i am really wrong. As per me i am doing justice to my profile. I am not telling i am perfect. But definitely willing to learn adopt good things.
Thanks and regards,
Pooja
From India, Bangalore
Madam,
Willingness to learn and adopt and adapt is the best way to progress.
Learn from errors and honestly introspect.
It is always easy to justify and say boss is difficult.
It may not always be true and problem may be is that one does not understand what the boss wants in work,in the same meaning/form of what he expects.
Eventually a good and willing employee will be successful in long run.
All the best.
From India, Pune
Willingness to learn and adopt and adapt is the best way to progress.
Learn from errors and honestly introspect.
It is always easy to justify and say boss is difficult.
It may not always be true and problem may be is that one does not understand what the boss wants in work,in the same meaning/form of what he expects.
Eventually a good and willing employee will be successful in long run.
All the best.
From India, Pune
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