Realy its a very-very sad. for the prevention from such a things, not happen in future, gov. of India must think more seriously.
From India, Gurgaon
From India, Gurgaon
Dear All,
I thank for the comments posted by every individual.
Based on what ever i saw on TV and whatever published in the news papers, I think there can be two legal deviations by the Hospital Authorities.
1. Following of National Building Code
2. Explosives act.
In India both of them are in place.
According to me it is the responsibility of every enterprise to obey the H&S rules and regulations.
If some body is offering bribe, he is the major culprit.
We as citizens of this country, have to encourage legal working.
I am a strong believer of the phrase "improvement begins with me"
To justify my thoughts I can give some of the real life examples where I tried to follow Legal Aspecs which are ...
1. When I was to go to a Dentist, I asked him how he disposes the bio-medical waste. In two cases the Dentists were not aware of the Disposal Requirement. I did not go to them. The third one although a little longer was aware and complying. I went to that Dentist.
2. PUC requirement of 2/4 wheelers is compulsory as per motor Vehicle Act. I suggested to our Management to have a PUC checkup camp, we negotiated better rates and facility was made available to all our employees at discounted rates, as as a result about 1000+ 2/4 wheelers were checked for emission levels at least 10% were exceeding the norms. The owners of these vehicles were motivated to get the servicing done and again get the PUC.
Later the repeat camp was kept exactly before the expiry of previous camp.
We got overwhilming response. The law got followed, reduced the opportunities Corruption.
3. I have never allowed my relatives to Drive 2/4 Wheelers, first I made it compulsory to get Licence and then they were allowed to drive.
4. The effluent parameters, stack emission checks, are started on monthly basis. The samples which State Pollution Board collectes every month, another samples from the same batch are given to CPCB approved lab. In case there are differences we write a letter to PCB.
5. Although the emission /stack reports are OK we have further made improvements in the Plants and submitted the letter on improvements done to PCB. This was a proactive step taken.
6. I was fortunate to visit some eastern and western countries. The main difference in road transport is the use of Lights and Horns. We hardly hear the HRONS in these countries, similarly they never use UPPER lights during travelling by Car/Bus. (In India HORN PLEASE is written on every truck.)
When I drive car, I try to Use Horns as minimum as Possible, and use DIPPER at Night
If we think of compliance for self, and in our area of influence, it is OK. The person who works in EHS department is well aware of Compliances, appeal to all to have 100% compliance, there by reducing opportunities for corruption.
Regards,
Sudhir
From India, Nasik
1305I thank for the comments posted by every individual.
Based on what ever i saw on TV and whatever published in the news papers, I think there can be two legal deviations by the Hospital Authorities.
1. Following of National Building Code
2. Explosives act.
In India both of them are in place.
According to me it is the responsibility of every enterprise to obey the H&S rules and regulations.
If some body is offering bribe, he is the major culprit.
We as citizens of this country, have to encourage legal working.
I am a strong believer of the phrase "improvement begins with me"
To justify my thoughts I can give some of the real life examples where I tried to follow Legal Aspecs which are ...
1. When I was to go to a Dentist, I asked him how he disposes the bio-medical waste. In two cases the Dentists were not aware of the Disposal Requirement. I did not go to them. The third one although a little longer was aware and complying. I went to that Dentist.
2. PUC requirement of 2/4 wheelers is compulsory as per motor Vehicle Act. I suggested to our Management to have a PUC checkup camp, we negotiated better rates and facility was made available to all our employees at discounted rates, as as a result about 1000+ 2/4 wheelers were checked for emission levels at least 10% were exceeding the norms. The owners of these vehicles were motivated to get the servicing done and again get the PUC.
Later the repeat camp was kept exactly before the expiry of previous camp.
We got overwhilming response. The law got followed, reduced the opportunities Corruption.
3. I have never allowed my relatives to Drive 2/4 Wheelers, first I made it compulsory to get Licence and then they were allowed to drive.
4. The effluent parameters, stack emission checks, are started on monthly basis. The samples which State Pollution Board collectes every month, another samples from the same batch are given to CPCB approved lab. In case there are differences we write a letter to PCB.
5. Although the emission /stack reports are OK we have further made improvements in the Plants and submitted the letter on improvements done to PCB. This was a proactive step taken.
6. I was fortunate to visit some eastern and western countries. The main difference in road transport is the use of Lights and Horns. We hardly hear the HRONS in these countries, similarly they never use UPPER lights during travelling by Car/Bus. (In India HORN PLEASE is written on every truck.)
When I drive car, I try to Use Horns as minimum as Possible, and use DIPPER at Night
If we think of compliance for self, and in our area of influence, it is OK. The person who works in EHS department is well aware of Compliances, appeal to all to have 100% compliance, there by reducing opportunities for corruption.
Regards,
Sudhir
From India, Nasik
It was very horrible incident which took place in Kolkata hospital.more than 90 peoples were died in it. guilty persons must be send behind the bars.
From India, Chandigarh
From India, Chandigarh
Dear Bhaskar,
We have all standard rules in our country (but it will not cover 100% safety of public). The problem is who followed the rules see the link 83 children killed in school fire in Kumbakonam after this incident our government stringent the rules then lot of schools and theaters was closed due to Improper license (Its one of the biggest theater in Coimbatore KG I am sure its not 100% compliance but they got license from government how its possible…???). This is the exact status of our country.
See the attached both links another example:
Chennai Saravana Stores Fire Accident on Sep 1,2008 - YouTube
Articles about Saravana Stores - Times Of India - Still they are running the store I hope they have license but I am 100% sure they are incompliance . . .
My opinion is very sorry to say government employees not doing his job perfectly I am not mean all our GE.
From United States, Fpo
We have all standard rules in our country (but it will not cover 100% safety of public). The problem is who followed the rules see the link 83 children killed in school fire in Kumbakonam after this incident our government stringent the rules then lot of schools and theaters was closed due to Improper license (Its one of the biggest theater in Coimbatore KG I am sure its not 100% compliance but they got license from government how its possible…???). This is the exact status of our country.
See the attached both links another example:
Chennai Saravana Stores Fire Accident on Sep 1,2008 - YouTube
Articles about Saravana Stores - Times Of India - Still they are running the store I hope they have license but I am 100% sure they are incompliance . . .
My opinion is very sorry to say government employees not doing his job perfectly I am not mean all our GE.
From United States, Fpo
it’s really a very sad news, as the State government has given the order to seal the hospitals,can any body share in that case what would happen with the employees are associated with hospitals and what all liabilities the employer has towards employees
Very Sad to listen about such a painful incident?Patients visit the hospitals for disese recoveries but see the same hospital is resposible for for such a miserable incident.why the management was so careless it shows their negligence.Keep on sharing such incidents
From United States, Englewood
From United States, Englewood
Dear Friend Every individual has to take initiation to implement or follow our acts, rules and regulations to prevent incidents .
From India, Mumbai
From India, Mumbai
Dear All
Sharing the below news with all of you which I got from Mr. Altaf Hussain over mail... Really it's shameful news even for our country...Thanks Altaf for sharing the news...
"I was surprised when I read this news….
Fire extinguisher! What is that? - The Times of India
Fire extinguisher! What is that?
Sunitha, TNN | Dec 11, 2011, 03.33AM IST
BANGALORE: This is one of the most preferred government hospitals in the South Bangalore, because of its well equipped dialysis centre and Intensive care unit. But ask about fire safety, everyone draws a blank at the Jayanagar General hospital.
The 300 hundred bedded hospital, that has about 450 outpatients visiting the hospital every day, does not have a single fire extinguisher in its campus spread across 7.6 hectares of land.
"We do not have fire extinguishers. After the fire accident in Kolkata’s private hospital, we are worried about the fire safety here. Frequent monitoring and training is required to make the hospital safe for fire break ups. We have identifies ten places in the hospital where fire extinguishers must be placed. A proposal on the same will be sent to the State Health and Family Welfare department. It would cost about Rs 1.5 lakh," said Dr K Nagaraj, Medical Superintendent of the hospital. No fire drills have also been conducted in the hospital so far."
If any of the Indian Govt. Legel enforcement authorities are reading these discussions; request to wake up and take strict actions against these violations...
From India
Sharing the below news with all of you which I got from Mr. Altaf Hussain over mail... Really it's shameful news even for our country...Thanks Altaf for sharing the news...
"I was surprised when I read this news….
Fire extinguisher! What is that? - The Times of India
Fire extinguisher! What is that?
Sunitha, TNN | Dec 11, 2011, 03.33AM IST
BANGALORE: This is one of the most preferred government hospitals in the South Bangalore, because of its well equipped dialysis centre and Intensive care unit. But ask about fire safety, everyone draws a blank at the Jayanagar General hospital.
The 300 hundred bedded hospital, that has about 450 outpatients visiting the hospital every day, does not have a single fire extinguisher in its campus spread across 7.6 hectares of land.
"We do not have fire extinguishers. After the fire accident in Kolkata’s private hospital, we are worried about the fire safety here. Frequent monitoring and training is required to make the hospital safe for fire break ups. We have identifies ten places in the hospital where fire extinguishers must be placed. A proposal on the same will be sent to the State Health and Family Welfare department. It would cost about Rs 1.5 lakh," said Dr K Nagaraj, Medical Superintendent of the hospital. No fire drills have also been conducted in the hospital so far."
If any of the Indian Govt. Legel enforcement authorities are reading these discussions; request to wake up and take strict actions against these violations...
From India
Dear Sir
Thanks for your detailed reply... it's really good sort of thinking and initiatives from your side... If all of us start think in this manner and if the Industrialists start looks safety as one of their business values, surely change will come in the upcoming days... Let's hope for the best and Prepare for the Worst...
From India
Thanks for your detailed reply... it's really good sort of thinking and initiatives from your side... If all of us start think in this manner and if the Industrialists start looks safety as one of their business values, surely change will come in the upcoming days... Let's hope for the best and Prepare for the Worst...
From India
Dear All
Thanks for sharing your views against this thread...
I think with this kind of discussion in this forum is not going to give more change in our present India's scenario... But my main aim is only we as individuals should take pledge to do the best in our place to avoid accidents...
Now everything rest upon how Govt. is going to enforce the existing laws... Let's wait with an expectation of good time will come soon...
Thanks to all once again...
From India
Thanks for sharing your views against this thread...
I think with this kind of discussion in this forum is not going to give more change in our present India's scenario... But my main aim is only we as individuals should take pledge to do the best in our place to avoid accidents...
Now everything rest upon how Govt. is going to enforce the existing laws... Let's wait with an expectation of good time will come soon...
Thanks to all once again...
From India
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