Hi, Please explain the difference between Leave without pay and Absent as in both case we didn’t get salary. Is there any difference. Regards
From India, Ludhiana
1From India, Ludhiana
I presume u mean LWP = 'approved leave of absence but without pay'? then the difference is the former is sanctioned leave of absence and the latter is without approval.
It depends on how you use the term 'absent' really. You being absent does not mean it is not approved.
Perhaps other members can shed more light in the matter for you as I'm not familiar with your labour laws and regulation and the terms that you use.
my humble thoughts
regards
Ricardo
From Malaysia, Kuching
It depends on how you use the term 'absent' really. You being absent does not mean it is not approved.
Perhaps other members can shed more light in the matter for you as I'm not familiar with your labour laws and regulation and the terms that you use.
my humble thoughts
regards
Ricardo
From Malaysia, Kuching
Absent - An employee not turning up to the office without informing anybody
If an employee has necessary approval for availing leave and if he doesn't have any leave balance, he has to undergo loss of pay. This is Leave without pay(LWP).
Correct me if i am wrong
Regards
Saritha
From India, Mumbai
If an employee has necessary approval for availing leave and if he doesn't have any leave balance, he has to undergo loss of pay. This is Leave without pay(LWP).
Correct me if i am wrong
Regards
Saritha
From India, Mumbai
Dear Pushpa,
As per our process, following is the difference:
Absent - When an employee takes leave without prior permission / information. It is an unpaid leave, even if the employee has balance of paid leaves. It comes under the category of LWP.
LWP - It is an unpaid leave, when an employee has no balance left for paid leaves in his account.
Hope this helps you.
Regards
Bhavna
www.vinove.com
From India, Delhi
As per our process, following is the difference:
Absent - When an employee takes leave without prior permission / information. It is an unpaid leave, even if the employee has balance of paid leaves. It comes under the category of LWP.
LWP - It is an unpaid leave, when an employee has no balance left for paid leaves in his account.
Hope this helps you.
Regards
Bhavna
www.vinove.com
From India, Delhi
Thanks all of you,
Though now i have well aware of the two terms as it is clearly explained by your return mails.
I would like to know while calculating or claiming e.g Calculating Earned Leave for next year and Gratuity or Bonus or in any other benefit ,or when filling up of any form under Factory Act like Annual Return ,if LWP has any sense.
Regards
From India, Ludhiana
Though now i have well aware of the two terms as it is clearly explained by your return mails.
I would like to know while calculating or claiming e.g Calculating Earned Leave for next year and Gratuity or Bonus or in any other benefit ,or when filling up of any form under Factory Act like Annual Return ,if LWP has any sense.
Regards
From India, Ludhiana
Dear Pushpa,
I can advise you only on Earned leaves, LWP is not considered while calculating earned leaves.
Regards
Bhavna
www.vinove.com
From India, Delhi
I can advise you only on Earned leaves, LWP is not considered while calculating earned leaves.
Regards
Bhavna
www.vinove.com
From India, Delhi
Dear Member
I am giving reply as desired by you :-
Absent : Absebt means if any employee avails leave and remains absent from duty without prior sanction any type of leave from his superior , such type of leave /off would be treated as absent and his salary shall be deducted
LWP : LWP means that if any employee avails sanctioned leaves but he doesn't have any leave in his account than such type of sanctioned leave would be treated as leave without pay.
ASHOK KUMAR
09350578043
From India, Delhi
I am giving reply as desired by you :-
Absent : Absebt means if any employee avails leave and remains absent from duty without prior sanction any type of leave from his superior , such type of leave /off would be treated as absent and his salary shall be deducted
LWP : LWP means that if any employee avails sanctioned leaves but he doesn't have any leave in his account than such type of sanctioned leave would be treated as leave without pay.
ASHOK KUMAR
09350578043
From India, Delhi
Puspa:
LWP means leave without pay. There are two types of LWP one is authorised and the other is Unauthorized. The Unauthorized one is actually called absent. The authorized as well as Unauthorized LWP are not entitled for any pay. For computation of Earned leave or Gratuity etc. the authorized LWP is considered for determining the eligibility criteria but the the computation part is done on the actual attendance. Normally when no leave is due on any employees account he/she applies for authorized LWP. Other cases are considerations on the merit or in case of suspension for more than 4 days (as stipulated in model standing orders or certified standing orders of the company as the case may be) and no domestic enquiry is held and/or subsistence allowanace is paid for the period of suspension.
regards
From United States, Cambridge
LWP means leave without pay. There are two types of LWP one is authorised and the other is Unauthorized. The Unauthorized one is actually called absent. The authorized as well as Unauthorized LWP are not entitled for any pay. For computation of Earned leave or Gratuity etc. the authorized LWP is considered for determining the eligibility criteria but the the computation part is done on the actual attendance. Normally when no leave is due on any employees account he/she applies for authorized LWP. Other cases are considerations on the merit or in case of suspension for more than 4 days (as stipulated in model standing orders or certified standing orders of the company as the case may be) and no domestic enquiry is held and/or subsistence allowanace is paid for the period of suspension.
regards
From United States, Cambridge
Dear Ashok Kumar
Your clarification is very much justified. But I would like to add 01 more comment on this:
Absent : Absenteeism carries negative impression.
LWP : Lwp carries positive impression, bcoz in this case employees proceeds on leave only after sanctioned by the competent authority.
Hope now it is more clarified.
Regards,
Rahul
From India, Ambala
Your clarification is very much justified. But I would like to add 01 more comment on this:
Absent : Absenteeism carries negative impression.
LWP : Lwp carries positive impression, bcoz in this case employees proceeds on leave only after sanctioned by the competent authority.
Hope now it is more clarified.
Regards,
Rahul
From India, Ambala
Hi,
Leave Without Pay only communicates that it's an uppaid leave.
It could be both Authorized or Unauthorized
This could be understood in following ways:
1. Paid Authorized Leave: Leave balance available and manager/authority has authorized that leave
2. Unpaid Unauthorized Leave: No leave balance available, authority and not authorized the leave. This category would attract disciplinary action.
3. Unpaid Authorized: No leave balance; however, reason for leave is justified and manager therefore has authorized the leave. However, as there is no leave balance, it gets unpaid.
So, the expression LWP would only suggest that it's an unpaid leave.
It can't tell whether authorized or not.
Hope this help.
Tx,
Rajesh
From India, Mumbai
Leave Without Pay only communicates that it's an uppaid leave.
It could be both Authorized or Unauthorized
This could be understood in following ways:
1. Paid Authorized Leave: Leave balance available and manager/authority has authorized that leave
2. Unpaid Unauthorized Leave: No leave balance available, authority and not authorized the leave. This category would attract disciplinary action.
3. Unpaid Authorized: No leave balance; however, reason for leave is justified and manager therefore has authorized the leave. However, as there is no leave balance, it gets unpaid.
So, the expression LWP would only suggest that it's an unpaid leave.
It can't tell whether authorized or not.
Hope this help.
Tx,
Rajesh
From India, Mumbai
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