New twist to row over Smriti Irani’s educational qualifications
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Dear Dr. Jogeshwar
Education Qualification is entirely different from the knowledge and experience.
Earlier one Mr. K Kamaraj who was an illiterate, becomes the Chief Minister of Tamil Nadu, made the Free Education to all the children. To attract the children from the rural side he started Noon Meal Scheme at School. Before his period the Education available in Tamil Nadu was only on Payment basis.
Even my father was struggled a lot to pay his school fee and if the fee was not paid then the school authorities will remove the name from the rolls. Then after making the payment only they will get readmitted in the same class. By that time the portions covered will get lapsed and it will be very difficult to cover the portion and prepare for the examinations.
Now also upto 12th Standard (10+2 system education), in Government schools free education is available. But we are thinking it is not having the standards. But the fact is the education who learned from Government school may not get good marks but they know how to survive in any place. The students studied in good private schools they cannot survive in some atmosphere and their tolerance level also very low.
So we cannot judge a person with his qualification. I have 5 degrees. But I cannot reach upto the level, because I concentrated in my studies and not on other activities. But those studied in government schools used to concentrated in studies as well as in other activities. Hence they are reaching upto the level. Now coming to the subject
It is not the educational qualification of a person, it is the qualities and credentials and ones knowledge only considered for any position.
From India, Kumbakonam
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Education Qualification is entirely different from the knowledge and experience.
Earlier one Mr. K Kamaraj who was an illiterate, becomes the Chief Minister of Tamil Nadu, made the Free Education to all the children. To attract the children from the rural side he started Noon Meal Scheme at School. Before his period the Education available in Tamil Nadu was only on Payment basis.
Even my father was struggled a lot to pay his school fee and if the fee was not paid then the school authorities will remove the name from the rolls. Then after making the payment only they will get readmitted in the same class. By that time the portions covered will get lapsed and it will be very difficult to cover the portion and prepare for the examinations.
Now also upto 12th Standard (10+2 system education), in Government schools free education is available. But we are thinking it is not having the standards. But the fact is the education who learned from Government school may not get good marks but they know how to survive in any place. The students studied in good private schools they cannot survive in some atmosphere and their tolerance level also very low.
So we cannot judge a person with his qualification. I have 5 degrees. But I cannot reach upto the level, because I concentrated in my studies and not on other activities. But those studied in government schools used to concentrated in studies as well as in other activities. Hence they are reaching upto the level. Now coming to the subject
It is not the educational qualification of a person, it is the qualities and credentials and ones knowledge only considered for any position.
From India, Kumbakonam
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Thanks. It is just the beginning of the debate.Ultimately facts remaining the same interpretation can be anything as the interpreter pleases. Let us have consensus,if any.
From India, Delhi
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From India, Delhi
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"Even before she could acquaint herself with the functioning of her ministry, Union Human Resource Development Minister Smriti Irani has already run into trouble for non matching affidavits regarding her academic qualification and also with people questioning her ability to shoulder the new responsibility.
Read more at: Do Modi's ministers need degrees? Why Smriti Irani must perform | Firstpost
From India, Delhi
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Read more at: Do Modi's ministers need degrees? Why Smriti Irani must perform | Firstpost
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Dear Dr. Mahanta,
Good debate to start with.
But does our Political system demand such a debate? To start with lets ask our selves - Is this one remote instance when a leader has supposedly less qualification than the post desires? Does our system set down any such standards for our leaders? Have we not had leaders qualified beyond call of post or position or educational quantums? Let the leaders' action qalify the PM's descision. She is ultimately the rudder steering the ship and her stay in political arena has shown her mettle. So, let her actions speak for her- at the end of the day, it is her team which has to show, advice and follow the discisions after ample of discussions are made. She will certainly get a qualified team to tackle old and oft debated issues with a new perspective. No LUCK answers with out perseverance and CREDENTIALS are built after perseverance over period of time.
Let God lend the new team in office his blessings to steer the country to new pinacles.
From India, Kolkata
Good debate to start with.
But does our Political system demand such a debate? To start with lets ask our selves - Is this one remote instance when a leader has supposedly less qualification than the post desires? Does our system set down any such standards for our leaders? Have we not had leaders qualified beyond call of post or position or educational quantums? Let the leaders' action qalify the PM's descision. She is ultimately the rudder steering the ship and her stay in political arena has shown her mettle. So, let her actions speak for her- at the end of the day, it is her team which has to show, advice and follow the discisions after ample of discussions are made. She will certainly get a qualified team to tackle old and oft debated issues with a new perspective. No LUCK answers with out perseverance and CREDENTIALS are built after perseverance over period of time.
Let God lend the new team in office his blessings to steer the country to new pinacles.
From India, Kolkata
The issue is of understanding and taking decisions. Well there would be competent bureaucrats to assist, but then all the decisions would be largely to benfit the business men hiding under the clove. The thought that strike me is for an smallest position in any organisation, there is a process and takes some 3 interviews and background verification. But today, education is becoming costlier and it is more of a business model to earn money, and new HRD would be totally dependent upon some one !!
This always means - Born intelligent, Education ruined.........
From India, Mumbai
This always means - Born intelligent, Education ruined.........
From India, Mumbai
After all what are her credentials to be HRD minister? Can any body elaborate?
From India, Delhi
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From India, Delhi
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Dear Dr. Jogeshwar Mahanta,
It is not clear to me whether your concern is that the present HRD Minister of India is not even a graduate or she is totally incapable of holding that post compared to her predecessors. Let us analyze the issue apolitically. If your concern is her educational qualification, I am unable to think that a person with high academic profile alone can function effectively as HRD Minister.No doubt all our Ministers for education in the past were great scholars.But, what happened to our education system? As in the distant past, it is gradully made available only to a certain class i.e with a slight modification not based on caste but on CASH. Resultant effect is that those who have no education but money become the founders and patrons of Private educational institutions and Autonomous Universities and those who are highly educated go to work there as teachers for money.Even though the Govt collects separate educational cess from the tax payer, the fund allocation to education is becoming thinner and thinner and the fees for higher eduction higher and higher.It is similar to collecting 10% of the value of your new vehicle as road tax and bleeding you white at every 60K.M by way of compulsory toll for road maintenance. If you think she is otherwise incapable, it is too early to judge i think.
From India, Salem
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It is not clear to me whether your concern is that the present HRD Minister of India is not even a graduate or she is totally incapable of holding that post compared to her predecessors. Let us analyze the issue apolitically. If your concern is her educational qualification, I am unable to think that a person with high academic profile alone can function effectively as HRD Minister.No doubt all our Ministers for education in the past were great scholars.But, what happened to our education system? As in the distant past, it is gradully made available only to a certain class i.e with a slight modification not based on caste but on CASH. Resultant effect is that those who have no education but money become the founders and patrons of Private educational institutions and Autonomous Universities and those who are highly educated go to work there as teachers for money.Even though the Govt collects separate educational cess from the tax payer, the fund allocation to education is becoming thinner and thinner and the fees for higher eduction higher and higher.It is similar to collecting 10% of the value of your new vehicle as road tax and bleeding you white at every 60K.M by way of compulsory toll for road maintenance. If you think she is otherwise incapable, it is too early to judge i think.
From India, Salem
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Dear Dr.Mahanta,
Though opinions are diverse I think that sweeping generelization such as interpretation can be anything as the interpreter pleases can not make any headway in a liberal discussion on a specific issue like the one you have started.Every Political Head should have the qualifications to effectively hold the Portfolio allotted to him or her is the concern of all.But the difference of opinion emerges in setting the parameters to assess the qualifications. We have witnessed in the past many a stalwarts miserably failing in their job as Ministers on account of their lack of situational management for some reason or other and getting sacked or reshuffled.In the annals of history why certain people are called as great kings and their rule as the golden era? Is it because they can be attributed all the superlative adjectivals to all their individual traits such as physical strength, bravery, military intelligence, eloquence,wisdom and the like? It is only because how harmoniously they organized the available different resources at their disposal for the realization of their objectives.So, let's not be judgemental now.
From India, Salem
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Though opinions are diverse I think that sweeping generelization such as interpretation can be anything as the interpreter pleases can not make any headway in a liberal discussion on a specific issue like the one you have started.Every Political Head should have the qualifications to effectively hold the Portfolio allotted to him or her is the concern of all.But the difference of opinion emerges in setting the parameters to assess the qualifications. We have witnessed in the past many a stalwarts miserably failing in their job as Ministers on account of their lack of situational management for some reason or other and getting sacked or reshuffled.In the annals of history why certain people are called as great kings and their rule as the golden era? Is it because they can be attributed all the superlative adjectivals to all their individual traits such as physical strength, bravery, military intelligence, eloquence,wisdom and the like? It is only because how harmoniously they organized the available different resources at their disposal for the realization of their objectives.So, let's not be judgemental now.
From India, Salem
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Hi every one,
In my view commitment and a honest approach is required for a minister to execute his / her job effectively
for rendering service to the people.
It is pertinent to say that many Doctorate Degree holders have floundered in the Indian political scenario,
whereas as mentioned in the above thread, many persons with no educational background
like K Kamaraj have done well.
It is nice to have a good educational background but it is not a MUST to deliver.
V.Raghunathan
From India
Senior Member
In my view commitment and a honest approach is required for a minister to execute his / her job effectively
for rendering service to the people.
It is pertinent to say that many Doctorate Degree holders have floundered in the Indian political scenario,
whereas as mentioned in the above thread, many persons with no educational background
like K Kamaraj have done well.
It is nice to have a good educational background but it is not a MUST to deliver.
V.Raghunathan
From India
Senior Member
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