There was an interesting topic discussed in CiteHR on Ego started by Mr. Nikhil Gurjar with plenty of discussion & excellent inputs from members.
Defining EGO is extremely difficult.
I was wondering whether an EGO Scale like ones used in Medicine named as Visual Analogue Scale (e.g. for Pain) can be prepared, since EGO like pain is subjective, (non-parametric)- intensity depending on the threshold of the sufferer.
Not an artist, I looked for & could get some excellent symbols prepared by Prof. Ravi Poovaiah, (available on internet, prepared by him for different purpose). He gracefully agreed to my using these here.
Wonder if they fit well here.
Dr Ulhas Ganu
From India, Mumbai
16Defining EGO is extremely difficult.
I was wondering whether an EGO Scale like ones used in Medicine named as Visual Analogue Scale (e.g. for Pain) can be prepared, since EGO like pain is subjective, (non-parametric)- intensity depending on the threshold of the sufferer.
Not an artist, I looked for & could get some excellent symbols prepared by Prof. Ravi Poovaiah, (available on internet, prepared by him for different purpose). He gracefully agreed to my using these here.
Wonder if they fit well here.
Dr Ulhas Ganu
From India, Mumbai
Hello Dr Ulhas Ganu,
A very good aspect you selected.
However, frankly, I am not really sure if the EGO aspect of human nature can be accurately measured.
You had compared [if not actually equated] Ego with Pain. While Pain has invariably a link with the 'physical' aspect of a human being, irrespective of the cause of that pain, I am not so sure Ego follows such laws/rules.
For eg., just visualize the recent scam-tainted individuals all of us must have seen on the TV--their Response mechanisms in various situations/scenarios. Didn't all of them know what they did? And yet did most of them [at least until they got arrested by the CBI] kept the facade of smiling faces all thru the time they faced the media. Doesn't this constitute an aspect of the Ego? How does one MEASURE this [the 'feeling' & the 'external expression' being totally contrary]?
Forgetting for a moment such high-profile cases, the same would be noticeable even in our normal human interaction--in offices, homes, social environment, etc. How often wouldn't we notice people showing off their wealth or degrees or position or just about anything that THEY THINK will be appreciated by those around them at that point of time? All these aspects of human nature are examples of the Ego--how do we measure such aspects accurately? Especially when one 'masks' the action from the 'intention/feeling/thought'?
Coming to the Spiritual angle to this facet of human nature, it's one of the MOST-DISCUSSED/EXPLAINED as well as FOCUSED topic by so many spiritual teachers/gurus over the ages & still continuing in our internet age!!!
Just some food for thought--hope I haven't added to the confounding nature of the Ego that you touched-upon :-)
Rgds,
TS
From India, Hyderabad
A very good aspect you selected.
However, frankly, I am not really sure if the EGO aspect of human nature can be accurately measured.
You had compared [if not actually equated] Ego with Pain. While Pain has invariably a link with the 'physical' aspect of a human being, irrespective of the cause of that pain, I am not so sure Ego follows such laws/rules.
For eg., just visualize the recent scam-tainted individuals all of us must have seen on the TV--their Response mechanisms in various situations/scenarios. Didn't all of them know what they did? And yet did most of them [at least until they got arrested by the CBI] kept the facade of smiling faces all thru the time they faced the media. Doesn't this constitute an aspect of the Ego? How does one MEASURE this [the 'feeling' & the 'external expression' being totally contrary]?
Forgetting for a moment such high-profile cases, the same would be noticeable even in our normal human interaction--in offices, homes, social environment, etc. How often wouldn't we notice people showing off their wealth or degrees or position or just about anything that THEY THINK will be appreciated by those around them at that point of time? All these aspects of human nature are examples of the Ego--how do we measure such aspects accurately? Especially when one 'masks' the action from the 'intention/feeling/thought'?
Coming to the Spiritual angle to this facet of human nature, it's one of the MOST-DISCUSSED/EXPLAINED as well as FOCUSED topic by so many spiritual teachers/gurus over the ages & still continuing in our internet age!!!
Just some food for thought--hope I haven't added to the confounding nature of the Ego that you touched-upon :-)
Rgds,
TS
From India, Hyderabad
Hi, Tajsateesh, thanks for the elaboration.
Your comments are always valuable and welcome.
I do not intend to compare EGO with Pain per se. Pain Scale was just an inspiration as both Pain & EGO are non-parametric (which can not be measured as we do the weight, height or temperature), because they are subjective. Even the threshold of people for heat is subjective (fingertips of a house-wife can withstand heat better than ours, who rarely worked in kitchen).
The idea is to see if the Scale can help people from grading an individual-say the boss- and adjust accordingly own approach. Some bosses may not mind listening to 'other view point' while others may not want to even listen to other view saying what they are saying is final. This may help safeguard them from backlash.
I had not thought of the leaders & their responses for gradation at all as they would not reach where they have if they were not egoist.
However, I admire you as you always bring in hidden but relevant points. May be different leaders with responses differing to different degrees can still be graded for varied responses from 'Having Made No Mistake' to acknowledging as 'May be It Was a Judgemental Error'.
I also am unbiased and hence put the topic for Poll as to know how the elite members of this forum look at it.
Dr Ulhas Ganu
From India, Mumbai
Your comments are always valuable and welcome.
I do not intend to compare EGO with Pain per se. Pain Scale was just an inspiration as both Pain & EGO are non-parametric (which can not be measured as we do the weight, height or temperature), because they are subjective. Even the threshold of people for heat is subjective (fingertips of a house-wife can withstand heat better than ours, who rarely worked in kitchen).
The idea is to see if the Scale can help people from grading an individual-say the boss- and adjust accordingly own approach. Some bosses may not mind listening to 'other view point' while others may not want to even listen to other view saying what they are saying is final. This may help safeguard them from backlash.
I had not thought of the leaders & their responses for gradation at all as they would not reach where they have if they were not egoist.
However, I admire you as you always bring in hidden but relevant points. May be different leaders with responses differing to different degrees can still be graded for varied responses from 'Having Made No Mistake' to acknowledging as 'May be It Was a Judgemental Error'.
I also am unbiased and hence put the topic for Poll as to know how the elite members of this forum look at it.
Dr Ulhas Ganu
From India, Mumbai
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