Hi All, If a function/ department needs to be shut down since its incurring cost and the dept manager is asked to leave. Can the company give it in writing on a mail that "You are asked to leave due to project has ended". The employee is not ready to resign on his own.
From India, Bangalore
From India, Bangalore
Since the post is managerial, the automatic exit of the manager on account of the closure of the department he headed depends upon his contract of employment. If his services were initially hired for the particular project only and there was a specific clause of termination of his employment being co-terminous with the closure or completion of the project, he could be straight away shown the door; otherwise, the employer can not simply ask him to leave on his own. The closure of a department as a measure of austerity or due to the completion of the project it handled, does not imply the closure of the entire establishment but only a partial closure. In such a situation, the proposed exit of the manager becomes of the initiative of the employer which is strictly subject to the notice clause of the contract of employment. Let the manager send a reply mail that he is not willing to resign but the management can terminate the contract of his employment following the formalities of unilateral discharge by the employer.
From India, Salem
6018From India, Salem
Thank You Mr Umakanthan.M,
In this situation the employee wasnt hired for a specific project or period. The appointment letter says that the employment can be terminated by either parties on giving a notice of 2 months. The employee has refused to initiate any action from his side.
In this situation can the management initiate a mail saying that he is discharged as per the contract with 2 months' notice.
From India, Bangalore
In this situation the employee wasnt hired for a specific project or period. The appointment letter says that the employment can be terminated by either parties on giving a notice of 2 months. The employee has refused to initiate any action from his side.
In this situation can the management initiate a mail saying that he is discharged as per the contract with 2 months' notice.
From India, Bangalore
Yes, my dear friend, that's the course of action normally adopted by ruthless managements. But, later it would become a complicated issue if the manager moves the Court and the management is not able to prove that the closure of the department was a geniune business decision and the exit of the manager was purely based on his juniority only. In the absence of reasonable cause, such negative covenants in the contract of employment would be held by the Courts as opposed to sec.27 of the Indian Contract Act,1872 and awarded damages to the affected employees.You can refer to my previous posts on the same issue in cite HR before a month or so.
From India, Salem
From India, Salem
There could be few facets to such a resignation.
1. Clause for co-terminus- No issue since with the termination of the project, employee too goes.
2. Employee not covered under any such clause or condition but the co/ org is closing due to any number of reasons. Economic non- viability could just be one such reasons. The best course for the employer is to caution the employee about the likely termination or scaling down of employees vis a vis to time. This should also be part of the employee communication and periodical management briefing so that employees understand the trend of manpower reduction and its need plus also self preparing to look for likely options available. This indeed is a good practice than giving a sudden jolt to the employee by laying him off one morning or leaving a job without relief. Many times, many co. go for closure due to numerous reasons and employee cannot or should not keep dragging his feet over the clause in the offer letter. He was looked after during the good time of co and now its his duty to understand. My exp says that most of the people generally side with the employee, which may not be the right approach all the times and in all cases.
3. Two to three month pre notice was a clause inserted in the offer letter for compliance by both the parties. This should be a happy situation , both for the employer and employee. Contrary to these three situation, there could be industry or organisation specific issues for asking an employee to resign and where more often than not, the employee resorts to appealing to the legal authority. Though at times, employee wins, but sadly only after a long run.
There is a common practice amongst many legal offices to generally support the employee irrespective of the genuineness of the employer's argument and justification. This I have seen for many years. An employee in my co. resigned at his own and found job closed in his new office on the day of his reporting. He came back and we showed him his resignation. He went to the court stating that he was forced to resign verbally. We put all justifiable and were as honest as possible, but the court kept rescheduling date after date.
i can say that irrespective of closing all ends, there will be many situations especially for the employer to get into into avoidable legal tangles due to highhandedness of employees. The best is as an employee, keep your eyes and ears opened and study the business environment. Simultaneously, it is extremely important for the HR guys to judiciously play employee and employer supportive cards well in time.
From India, Karol Bagh
1. Clause for co-terminus- No issue since with the termination of the project, employee too goes.
2. Employee not covered under any such clause or condition but the co/ org is closing due to any number of reasons. Economic non- viability could just be one such reasons. The best course for the employer is to caution the employee about the likely termination or scaling down of employees vis a vis to time. This should also be part of the employee communication and periodical management briefing so that employees understand the trend of manpower reduction and its need plus also self preparing to look for likely options available. This indeed is a good practice than giving a sudden jolt to the employee by laying him off one morning or leaving a job without relief. Many times, many co. go for closure due to numerous reasons and employee cannot or should not keep dragging his feet over the clause in the offer letter. He was looked after during the good time of co and now its his duty to understand. My exp says that most of the people generally side with the employee, which may not be the right approach all the times and in all cases.
3. Two to three month pre notice was a clause inserted in the offer letter for compliance by both the parties. This should be a happy situation , both for the employer and employee. Contrary to these three situation, there could be industry or organisation specific issues for asking an employee to resign and where more often than not, the employee resorts to appealing to the legal authority. Though at times, employee wins, but sadly only after a long run.
There is a common practice amongst many legal offices to generally support the employee irrespective of the genuineness of the employer's argument and justification. This I have seen for many years. An employee in my co. resigned at his own and found job closed in his new office on the day of his reporting. He came back and we showed him his resignation. He went to the court stating that he was forced to resign verbally. We put all justifiable and were as honest as possible, but the court kept rescheduling date after date.
i can say that irrespective of closing all ends, there will be many situations especially for the employer to get into into avoidable legal tangles due to highhandedness of employees. The best is as an employee, keep your eyes and ears opened and study the business environment. Simultaneously, it is extremely important for the HR guys to judiciously play employee and employer supportive cards well in time.
From India, Karol Bagh
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