nice one....... I appreciate your work. It hurts when we post something but don’t get any update out of the post ......but its not an negative marketing. Regards Debajyoti
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Good one, Octavious!
I do agree that people need to post their comments or show their gratitude when they download some info posted by someone.
I also urge the senior members to respond to the queries posted under the "Talk to Seniors" column. Often, I see a lot of queries left unanswered for months.
Also, the new members should be taught how to search for any info before posting such repeated requests in the forum. If they are not taught, then they surely cannot be blamed for posting the query which looks repetitive to the others.
I agree completely with this statement of yours, Octavious: "LOTS OF YOUNG BUDDING HR PROFESSIONALS JOIN THIS GROUP EVERY DAY IN THE HOPE THAT THEY WILL RECEIVE GUIDANCE OR ANSWERS TO THEIR QUERIES OR APPRECIATION FOR THEIR WORK." If we are not able to meet their expectations, then the very purpose of CiteHR gets defeated.
As members of this community, we should never let that happen. We should help each other. Thank each other. No excuses made. We should pledge ourselves that if we come across a query for which we have the resources to answer, we should answer immediately no matter how small the query is. This attitude of ours will create a healthy culture in CiteHR. We sweat our days in the office trying to grow a good culture in the place we work. Why can't we try to maintain the same in this forum?
Hope other members do agree to it. :) If any of my words have hurt anyone, please note it was purely unintentional.
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~Raghav V
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I do agree that people need to post their comments or show their gratitude when they download some info posted by someone.
I also urge the senior members to respond to the queries posted under the "Talk to Seniors" column. Often, I see a lot of queries left unanswered for months.
Also, the new members should be taught how to search for any info before posting such repeated requests in the forum. If they are not taught, then they surely cannot be blamed for posting the query which looks repetitive to the others.
I agree completely with this statement of yours, Octavious: "LOTS OF YOUNG BUDDING HR PROFESSIONALS JOIN THIS GROUP EVERY DAY IN THE HOPE THAT THEY WILL RECEIVE GUIDANCE OR ANSWERS TO THEIR QUERIES OR APPRECIATION FOR THEIR WORK." If we are not able to meet their expectations, then the very purpose of CiteHR gets defeated.
As members of this community, we should never let that happen. We should help each other. Thank each other. No excuses made. We should pledge ourselves that if we come across a query for which we have the resources to answer, we should answer immediately no matter how small the query is. This attitude of ours will create a healthy culture in CiteHR. We sweat our days in the office trying to grow a good culture in the place we work. Why can't we try to maintain the same in this forum?
Hope other members do agree to it. :) If any of my words have hurt anyone, please note it was purely unintentional.
Regards,
~Raghav V
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My god, you are quite irritated. In this ocean of people, there are many who must have silently prayed for you and thanked you a million times when they received what they were looking for from the posts and material you have uploaded. Not everybody comments, Mr. Octavious, but that doesn't mean they are rude or shameless. You have unknowingly disregarded their feelings entirely.
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Hello,
I don't know who and what gave the idea that I am arguing for myself. I have time in and out total all that. I seek no appreciations but I am putting a stand for people who are not appreciated for their efforts. I have already cleared my stand in the comments here; please read. Next time, do not comment on anything without understanding anything in complete essence.
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Octavious
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I don't know who and what gave the idea that I am arguing for myself. I have time in and out total all that. I seek no appreciations but I am putting a stand for people who are not appreciated for their efforts. I have already cleared my stand in the comments here; please read. Next time, do not comment on anything without understanding anything in complete essence.
Thank you,
Octavious
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Hello,
Thank you to all the members herein for understanding my cause and supporting the same.
I am also thankful to my critics, for they are my stepping stones to success. It is my critics who challenge me to prove myself better than the last effort I made. If it were not for my critics, I would have never been able to perform better each passing day. In the zeal to prove my critics wrong, I have delivered better results than I usually would have in an unchallenged situation.
I have certain points to highlight here, and they are as follows:
1. I have made a strong statement in my post and have clearly stated the outcome I wish for. Nowhere have I requested empathy, sympathy, or any advice.
2. Instead of understanding my requirement, I have been provided with unsolicited advice, thus creating an unnecessary argument over a simple matter.
3. I had given two options: to download shamelessly or download with your views/rating, but some members herein took a third option I never provided, which is giving unsolicited advice and guidance.
4. Some members herein have advised on the topic without even reading or understanding the principle or the sublime message behind the post and commands there too.
For the above post, I feel that as HR professionals, we have not done justice to our profession because as HR, we are supposed to:
1. Not complicate things.
2. Be patient listeners.
3. Have an eye for details.
4. Observe rules and guidelines.
5. Not rush to provide options/solutions/advice when waiting for the matter to settle would be more than enough.
I would apologize to all members herein who might have been hurt by my strong/shrewd remarks. But the same was required to get my cause to the people of the forum.
I would request all the members to understand that next time, if you like a post or article, kindly rate it or drop a comment. The person who uploads the post for you to enjoy would have had to spend time and efforts to entertain you. So, be humane and spare a moment to give a word of appreciation to the person for his/her efforts.
I would repeat that I don't require any appreciation, but there are others who desire and deserve the appreciation, so please make it a point to appreciate others.
The entire purpose of the post was to highlight that we are forgetting to appreciate others for their efforts. I was in no way trying to get people to comment on my post or gather appreciations.
I apologize once again for the hard words spoken and dignity hurt by me in the process of proving a rightful cause.
Comments on the post herein are requested to be avoided, as the post has served its purpose (i.e., highlighting the need to appreciate the efforts of others).
Thank you for your time, patience, and cooperation.
Much obliged,
Octavious
"The bad things in life open your eyes to the good things you weren't paying attention to."
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Thank you to all the members herein for understanding my cause and supporting the same.
I am also thankful to my critics, for they are my stepping stones to success. It is my critics who challenge me to prove myself better than the last effort I made. If it were not for my critics, I would have never been able to perform better each passing day. In the zeal to prove my critics wrong, I have delivered better results than I usually would have in an unchallenged situation.
I have certain points to highlight here, and they are as follows:
1. I have made a strong statement in my post and have clearly stated the outcome I wish for. Nowhere have I requested empathy, sympathy, or any advice.
2. Instead of understanding my requirement, I have been provided with unsolicited advice, thus creating an unnecessary argument over a simple matter.
3. I had given two options: to download shamelessly or download with your views/rating, but some members herein took a third option I never provided, which is giving unsolicited advice and guidance.
4. Some members herein have advised on the topic without even reading or understanding the principle or the sublime message behind the post and commands there too.
For the above post, I feel that as HR professionals, we have not done justice to our profession because as HR, we are supposed to:
1. Not complicate things.
2. Be patient listeners.
3. Have an eye for details.
4. Observe rules and guidelines.
5. Not rush to provide options/solutions/advice when waiting for the matter to settle would be more than enough.
I would apologize to all members herein who might have been hurt by my strong/shrewd remarks. But the same was required to get my cause to the people of the forum.
I would request all the members to understand that next time, if you like a post or article, kindly rate it or drop a comment. The person who uploads the post for you to enjoy would have had to spend time and efforts to entertain you. So, be humane and spare a moment to give a word of appreciation to the person for his/her efforts.
I would repeat that I don't require any appreciation, but there are others who desire and deserve the appreciation, so please make it a point to appreciate others.
The entire purpose of the post was to highlight that we are forgetting to appreciate others for their efforts. I was in no way trying to get people to comment on my post or gather appreciations.
I apologize once again for the hard words spoken and dignity hurt by me in the process of proving a rightful cause.
Comments on the post herein are requested to be avoided, as the post has served its purpose (i.e., highlighting the need to appreciate the efforts of others).
Thank you for your time, patience, and cooperation.
Much obliged,
Octavious
"The bad things in life open your eyes to the good things you weren't paying attention to."
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That was rude, Octavius... extremely rude! No one has asked you to post stuff out here. You have done so of your own volition. You are not the only one who indulges in knowledge sharing; we all do or are in the process of doing so. If I could, I would give you the lowest rating for lack of courtesy.
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Hello,
It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not.
Thank you, and keep posting. Post comments when you are sober. Emotions at times cloud practicality and logic. Please re-read my post and then comment.
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Octavius
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It is better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not.
Thank you, and keep posting. Post comments when you are sober. Emotions at times cloud practicality and logic. Please re-read my post and then comment.
Thank you,
Octavius
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Hello,
The way of least resistance rarely leads to success. I stood up for what I believed was right, and after constant resistance, I have achieved what I wished to highlight.
I would once again apologize to all who have been hurt in my zealous efforts to highlight certain issues. But let me also thank all, for you have all directly or indirectly served the purpose of highlighting the issue. Kindly do not take anything personally.
So, I would request you to kindly not post any comments on the topic. Please follow the link and give your views. Thank you.
Octavious
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The way of least resistance rarely leads to success. I stood up for what I believed was right, and after constant resistance, I have achieved what I wished to highlight.
I would once again apologize to all who have been hurt in my zealous efforts to highlight certain issues. But let me also thank all, for you have all directly or indirectly served the purpose of highlighting the issue. Kindly do not take anything personally.
So, I would request you to kindly not post any comments on the topic. Please follow the link and give your views. Thank you.
Octavious
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Hi Octavius,
Oh my, my, my, my... I neither have the time nor inclination to fight for a futile cause. Do us all a favor, join yoga classes! It will surely relax you. Learn to live life simply. As an HR person, one shouldn't complicate matters. I agree. So, practice what you preach!
If you don't like unsolicited "advice" from people, then also don't give it. Learn to take feedback, then force your "cause" on others, or at least learn to use professional language. How on earth were you able to cook up such an email? I don't want to compete with you on this; you win hands down. Happy?
I completely agree with Ms. Ipsita when she says that you have used foul language in the forum, so you should get a taste of your own medicine.
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Oh my, my, my, my... I neither have the time nor inclination to fight for a futile cause. Do us all a favor, join yoga classes! It will surely relax you. Learn to live life simply. As an HR person, one shouldn't complicate matters. I agree. So, practice what you preach!
If you don't like unsolicited "advice" from people, then also don't give it. Learn to take feedback, then force your "cause" on others, or at least learn to use professional language. How on earth were you able to cook up such an email? I don't want to compete with you on this; you win hands down. Happy?
I completely agree with Ms. Ipsita when she says that you have used foul language in the forum, so you should get a taste of your own medicine.
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Hello,
There is a Chinese proverb:
"Never wrestle with pigs, they take you down to dirt."
I decline to comment on any and all further comments by you on my post.
I don't know which school you went to that taught you that the word "shameless" is a slang. As per the Oxford Dictionary, the word shameless means impudent or having or knowing no shame. Nowhere has it been mentioned that it is a slang.
How can a person who is least bothered about other members and their problems talk about professionalism?
Why are you so agitated for Ipsita, when she herself has maintained her calm and cool? Especially when you say that you are least bothered about the problems of the members of the forum. Strange!
Regarding joining yoga, good suggestion. But I would like to tell you that I don't take directions from someone who themselves can't understand directions. I have requested not to post further comments, but you still continued.
About "I winning," I am sorry to say, I never considered you competition. But I would back out now so as not to lead comments in the public forum beyond the realms of sanity.
You may comment as much as you wish; I will not reply anymore to any of your remarks or comments, as there is a limitation to intelligence and there isn't any to idiocy, and I have reached my limits.
You, in your rage, have stooped so low that your comments themselves state their caliber. On close scrutiny, any person of common prudence would understand who lacks maturity, culture, and professionalism.
I consider you an intelligent and mature person, so I once again request you to stop posting further comments and act sensibly and maturely. Kindly stop this useless argument; you have conveyed your views, and I have noted the same.
The post has already served its purpose, and I have apologized to all whom I had hurt in the process of trying to put my point across. I feel no further need to clarify anything to anyone.
I won't reply to any of your remarks or comments.
Thank you,
Octavious
From India, Mumbai
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There is a Chinese proverb:
"Never wrestle with pigs, they take you down to dirt."
I decline to comment on any and all further comments by you on my post.
I don't know which school you went to that taught you that the word "shameless" is a slang. As per the Oxford Dictionary, the word shameless means impudent or having or knowing no shame. Nowhere has it been mentioned that it is a slang.
How can a person who is least bothered about other members and their problems talk about professionalism?
Why are you so agitated for Ipsita, when she herself has maintained her calm and cool? Especially when you say that you are least bothered about the problems of the members of the forum. Strange!
Regarding joining yoga, good suggestion. But I would like to tell you that I don't take directions from someone who themselves can't understand directions. I have requested not to post further comments, but you still continued.
About "I winning," I am sorry to say, I never considered you competition. But I would back out now so as not to lead comments in the public forum beyond the realms of sanity.
You may comment as much as you wish; I will not reply anymore to any of your remarks or comments, as there is a limitation to intelligence and there isn't any to idiocy, and I have reached my limits.
You, in your rage, have stooped so low that your comments themselves state their caliber. On close scrutiny, any person of common prudence would understand who lacks maturity, culture, and professionalism.
I consider you an intelligent and mature person, so I once again request you to stop posting further comments and act sensibly and maturely. Kindly stop this useless argument; you have conveyed your views, and I have noted the same.
The post has already served its purpose, and I have apologized to all whom I had hurt in the process of trying to put my point across. I feel no further need to clarify anything to anyone.
I won't reply to any of your remarks or comments.
Thank you,
Octavious
From India, Mumbai
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