I got to know about a candidate who recently joined Visteon company. This candidate did proxy while giving an interview, submitted fake experience, and took help from a third-party consultancy by paying some amount.
Now, being an outsider, how can I report this to the company? Because of these fake candidates, real candidates are losing their opportunities.
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Now, being an outsider, how can I report this to the company? Because of these fake candidates, real candidates are losing their opportunities.
From India, Bengaluru
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Hi,
A couple of questions:
How come the company failed to find out that the candidate was using a proxy and submitting fake experience? There seems to be something wrong with their hiring process.
How did you come to know about this? Are you from Visteon or another third party?
What the candidate did is wrong. If you are certain about what happened and have any material evidence, you may consider writing an anonymous email (for your safety) with necessary proofs to the higher authorities of that company. If you are correct, the company may take action.
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1153A couple of questions:
How come the company failed to find out that the candidate was using a proxy and submitting fake experience? There seems to be something wrong with their hiring process.
How did you come to know about this? Are you from Visteon or another third party?
What the candidate did is wrong. If you are certain about what happened and have any material evidence, you may consider writing an anonymous email (for your safety) with necessary proofs to the higher authorities of that company. If you are correct, the company may take action.
From India, Madras
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Yes, even I am astonished to know that the company has failed to identify the proxy. I am not an employee of Visteon, but I am her roommate. She is influencing many of her friends to do the same. I do have her previous workplace contact number and a salary credited message.
She doesn't know the ABCD of the skill set that she showed in her resume. Why can't the company verify her bank statement to confirm if she has really worked in the company that she showed in her resume?
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She doesn't know the ABCD of the skill set that she showed in her resume. Why can't the company verify her bank statement to confirm if she has really worked in the company that she showed in her resume?
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I have all the relevant supporting or documents to prove that she is a fake candidate but I need the respective email id of the company to report this.
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Hi,
It is very sad to know that candidates are giving very little importance to ethics. Getting an email ID will not be a tough task. If you visit the website of the company, you will find the sales or HR email ID. However, since you are her roommate, she will easily figure out that you are behind the email. Take care.
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It is very sad to know that candidates are giving very little importance to ethics. Getting an email ID will not be a tough task. If you visit the website of the company, you will find the sales or HR email ID. However, since you are her roommate, she will easily figure out that you are behind the email. Take care.
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My suggestion for what it is worth - mind your own business. It is not your role in life to be a vigilante.
If the company has failed badly in its recruitment process, then it is on their head, and they are going to learn a very hard lesson once they discover of their own accord that the candidate is a fraud.
We can rightly be angry about this sort of behavior, but it is not our role to police it. Those of you with responsibilities involving recruitment need to ensure that your policies and processes are well-documented, and followed by all staff to the letter and with rigorous background checking in place.
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If the company has failed badly in its recruitment process, then it is on their head, and they are going to learn a very hard lesson once they discover of their own accord that the candidate is a fraud.
We can rightly be angry about this sort of behavior, but it is not our role to police it. Those of you with responsibilities involving recruitment need to ensure that your policies and processes are well-documented, and followed by all staff to the letter and with rigorous background checking in place.
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This subject on having come to know the human mind gets angry. That reflects in your anger that he is depriving others of opportunity. From your writing, it is like this:
"got to know about a candidate who recently joined Visteon company"
1. This candidate did proxy while giving an interview.
2. Submitted fake experience.
3. Took help from a third-party consultancy by paying some amount.
4. Your question: Now being an outsider, how can I report this to the company because of this fake candidate, real candidates are losing their opportunities.
From the above, these are my questions while the company looked or overlooked:
1. Interview - Have they compared the CV with the photo, and the person who attended the interview are the same? If not, then the consultancy is involved with the staff to replace the photo as per convenience - Movie Tik Tik Tik - Jayam Ravi. If the person interviewed and checked certificates are all involved with the agency.
2. Even about the experience certificate - have they checked it whether the company exists? Have they taken reference and back check? If not, then here too the consultancy is involved.
3. Now you have clearly mentioned a third-party consultancy: You know if you approach any famous recruitment agency website, their fixed program for filling details are limited. How can an experienced person get a job?
The agency website doesn't provide the actual position of the candidate. The post held there is no exact post you have handled. There is no option to go to "Others" and explain what kind of job you did.
They all think only managers are doing the work. But surely not. Managers are just enjoying and getting official and their personal work, and the staff has to sit late and do their job silently. He gets promotion and monetary benefits at the sweat and time of the employees. So if you know someone in the recruitment agency, it may happen that he has helped him push him into a company for a job. In the recruitment portal CV and experience, there is no provision to get a job in any department. All only big posts. Then what are they for?
4. You do not know anything, but only know the circumstantial facts.
So better get away from the scene. As long as the person is working there to the satisfaction of the company besides all the hidden qualifications and experience, they will never leave him. So just remove this idea and anger. Even if you talk of others' chances of getting the job, he too will fall into the unemployed category, and at most only one job and 100s he is grabbing of others.
Many times we need a push in life. But at times we are missed by time, age, and short of experience, unable to give a direct interview but well practical knowledge of the subject job. So it is not just experience by paper and qualification by paper.
As long as quacks in Medical which are serious, you have to expose but others it is nothing.
See "Tum Milo Tho Sahi" movie. The high professional lawyer cheating by hiding his client his needs so he is well paid, but an assistant lawyer working for so many years in the company but not practiced in court even holding a Law Degree. He was in the company with the professional lawyers firm with their father. When this cheating case comes to his knowledge, he delves into the subject of the case and wins the case. So don't judge things like that.
Now to tell you another practical scene.
I went to a Medical Polyclinic for my health problem. There an Indian Doctor of middle-aged of 45+ might be, treated me. Before a year back, I was treated by a lady Doctor treated me in the same clinic.
Now the matter is in these times the Doctors who have attended to me are not seen in the Polyclinic after a few months thereafter on each occasion. On inquiry, the reception staff told me that they were very good Indian Doctors. But as per local rule, they have to attend a Theory exam conducted by the local Government, and after passing, they will be issued an authority card, and this will be displayed in the Polyclinic who are all the Doctors in the clinic at various departments.
So here they are qualified but local rules are a problem for them.
At one time, the ENT and Ophthalmologist were on vacation. But as they could not get a replacement, the things were running only to the normal case of eye testing, etc., and so also just ENT issues by a qualified Doctor, but yet to send for the exam. But no major cases were attended. Because if any complications they will face legal issues.
So here just one person who gets employed one way or the other but as long as his work is satisfactory to the company, you cannot do anything.
Even if they come to know he would tell the constraints put by the company blocks his quality work get employed.
Here the Consultancy will be in trouble but the candidate's breadwinning for family is a humanity issue.
Many companies have the Qualified Engineer in their official record to run the company. But if the candidate failed in the exam they will use them for assisting the department without involving any government matters. They get another who pass for their company registration.
Similar to Pharmacist. Many assistants but one or two pharmacists always present in the Medical Stores as per Government regulation.
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"got to know about a candidate who recently joined Visteon company"
1. This candidate did proxy while giving an interview.
2. Submitted fake experience.
3. Took help from a third-party consultancy by paying some amount.
4. Your question: Now being an outsider, how can I report this to the company because of this fake candidate, real candidates are losing their opportunities.
From the above, these are my questions while the company looked or overlooked:
1. Interview - Have they compared the CV with the photo, and the person who attended the interview are the same? If not, then the consultancy is involved with the staff to replace the photo as per convenience - Movie Tik Tik Tik - Jayam Ravi. If the person interviewed and checked certificates are all involved with the agency.
2. Even about the experience certificate - have they checked it whether the company exists? Have they taken reference and back check? If not, then here too the consultancy is involved.
3. Now you have clearly mentioned a third-party consultancy: You know if you approach any famous recruitment agency website, their fixed program for filling details are limited. How can an experienced person get a job?
The agency website doesn't provide the actual position of the candidate. The post held there is no exact post you have handled. There is no option to go to "Others" and explain what kind of job you did.
They all think only managers are doing the work. But surely not. Managers are just enjoying and getting official and their personal work, and the staff has to sit late and do their job silently. He gets promotion and monetary benefits at the sweat and time of the employees. So if you know someone in the recruitment agency, it may happen that he has helped him push him into a company for a job. In the recruitment portal CV and experience, there is no provision to get a job in any department. All only big posts. Then what are they for?
4. You do not know anything, but only know the circumstantial facts.
So better get away from the scene. As long as the person is working there to the satisfaction of the company besides all the hidden qualifications and experience, they will never leave him. So just remove this idea and anger. Even if you talk of others' chances of getting the job, he too will fall into the unemployed category, and at most only one job and 100s he is grabbing of others.
Many times we need a push in life. But at times we are missed by time, age, and short of experience, unable to give a direct interview but well practical knowledge of the subject job. So it is not just experience by paper and qualification by paper.
As long as quacks in Medical which are serious, you have to expose but others it is nothing.
See "Tum Milo Tho Sahi" movie. The high professional lawyer cheating by hiding his client his needs so he is well paid, but an assistant lawyer working for so many years in the company but not practiced in court even holding a Law Degree. He was in the company with the professional lawyers firm with their father. When this cheating case comes to his knowledge, he delves into the subject of the case and wins the case. So don't judge things like that.
Now to tell you another practical scene.
I went to a Medical Polyclinic for my health problem. There an Indian Doctor of middle-aged of 45+ might be, treated me. Before a year back, I was treated by a lady Doctor treated me in the same clinic.
Now the matter is in these times the Doctors who have attended to me are not seen in the Polyclinic after a few months thereafter on each occasion. On inquiry, the reception staff told me that they were very good Indian Doctors. But as per local rule, they have to attend a Theory exam conducted by the local Government, and after passing, they will be issued an authority card, and this will be displayed in the Polyclinic who are all the Doctors in the clinic at various departments.
So here they are qualified but local rules are a problem for them.
At one time, the ENT and Ophthalmologist were on vacation. But as they could not get a replacement, the things were running only to the normal case of eye testing, etc., and so also just ENT issues by a qualified Doctor, but yet to send for the exam. But no major cases were attended. Because if any complications they will face legal issues.
So here just one person who gets employed one way or the other but as long as his work is satisfactory to the company, you cannot do anything.
Even if they come to know he would tell the constraints put by the company blocks his quality work get employed.
Here the Consultancy will be in trouble but the candidate's breadwinning for family is a humanity issue.
Many companies have the Qualified Engineer in their official record to run the company. But if the candidate failed in the exam they will use them for assisting the department without involving any government matters. They get another who pass for their company registration.
Similar to Pharmacist. Many assistants but one or two pharmacists always present in the Medical Stores as per Government regulation.
From Saudi Arabia
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