It has been told to link UAN with ESIC, but what to do in scenarios where:
1) a person has only ESIC and no UAN because they are not eligible for PF due to no past PF history and a higher salary bar?
2) a person has both but has only provided the firm their ESIC number?
3) a person has multiple ESIC numbers?
I kindly request the learned professionals to help me understand each scenario and what actions need to be taken.
From India, Bengaluru
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11) a person has only ESIC and no UAN because they are not eligible for PF due to no past PF history and a higher salary bar?
2) a person has both but has only provided the firm their ESIC number?
3) a person has multiple ESIC numbers?
I kindly request the learned professionals to help me understand each scenario and what actions need to be taken.
From India, Bengaluru
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Scenario 1:
There can be persons excluded from PF but covered by ESI and vice versa. If you have employees with ESI but without PF, no issue, give reason for not having PF.
Scenario 2:
If employees have both, furnish both numbers. What is the issue? If you have given only ESI, then register him in PF also and generate UAN and furnish it.
Scenario 3:
No worker can have multiple ESI numbers. Normally when you register a new employee, the system will ask if he is already registered. If you have answered No and registered him with a different telephone number, bank account number, and Aadhar number, then take the responsibility and correct it with the ESI Corporation. (I don't know how this happens when everything is linked together!)
Untold:
The objective of linking the UAN with the ESI Number is to know who is not given PF registration and if there is any omission. However, when the laws pertaining to both are different regarding coverage, the purpose of such linking is known only to those who have made it!
From India, Kannur
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There can be persons excluded from PF but covered by ESI and vice versa. If you have employees with ESI but without PF, no issue, give reason for not having PF.
Scenario 2:
If employees have both, furnish both numbers. What is the issue? If you have given only ESI, then register him in PF also and generate UAN and furnish it.
Scenario 3:
No worker can have multiple ESI numbers. Normally when you register a new employee, the system will ask if he is already registered. If you have answered No and registered him with a different telephone number, bank account number, and Aadhar number, then take the responsibility and correct it with the ESI Corporation. (I don't know how this happens when everything is linked together!)
Untold:
The objective of linking the UAN with the ESI Number is to know who is not given PF registration and if there is any omission. However, when the laws pertaining to both are different regarding coverage, the purpose of such linking is known only to those who have made it!
From India, Kannur
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If a person has an ESI Number but no UAN Number, then there is no issue; their entry in the UAN column will remain blank. If questioned, they can provide the reason to the ESI Office that they do not have a UAN number.
For individuals with both ESI and UAN numbers, the UAN number should be added along with the ESI number. If the person does not provide the UAN number, it can be verified through the Aadhar card, and then the same UAN can be added in the ESI record.
In cases where a person has multiple ESI numbers, the first step is to register all ESI numbers on the ESI portal. Then, it should be verified which ESI number is linked to the UAN. Subsequently, that specific ESI Number should be used for further proceedings, ensuring that ESI and PF contributions are synchronized, rendering the other ESI numbers redundant.
Employees should be educated about their ESI numbers to prevent instances where they attempt to create new ESI numbers when changing jobs.
Please ensure that employees are informed about their ESI numbers to avoid creating new ESI numbers when switching jobs.
From India, Chandigarh
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For individuals with both ESI and UAN numbers, the UAN number should be added along with the ESI number. If the person does not provide the UAN number, it can be verified through the Aadhar card, and then the same UAN can be added in the ESI record.
In cases where a person has multiple ESI numbers, the first step is to register all ESI numbers on the ESI portal. Then, it should be verified which ESI number is linked to the UAN. Subsequently, that specific ESI Number should be used for further proceedings, ensuring that ESI and PF contributions are synchronized, rendering the other ESI numbers redundant.
Employees should be educated about their ESI numbers to prevent instances where they attempt to create new ESI numbers when changing jobs.
Please ensure that employees are informed about their ESI numbers to avoid creating new ESI numbers when switching jobs.
From India, Chandigarh
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