Hello Everyone,
I am Seema. I have worked as an off-roll employee in my current organization for 3 months. After that, I continued my job as an on-roll employee. However, to date, I am facing problems with my PF withdrawal for the off-roll period of 3 months. My employers are saying that I am not eligible to withdraw it since I worked only for 3 months as an off-roll employee. I can only withdraw my 3 months PF if I have worked more than 3 months in the organization.
Please guide me on what I can do to withdraw my 3 months PF amount.
Regards,
Seema Vishwakarma
HR Executive
From India, New Delhi
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2I am Seema. I have worked as an off-roll employee in my current organization for 3 months. After that, I continued my job as an on-roll employee. However, to date, I am facing problems with my PF withdrawal for the off-roll period of 3 months. My employers are saying that I am not eligible to withdraw it since I worked only for 3 months as an off-roll employee. I can only withdraw my 3 months PF if I have worked more than 3 months in the organization.
Please guide me on what I can do to withdraw my 3 months PF amount.
Regards,
Seema Vishwakarma
HR Executive
From India, New Delhi
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yes you will be getting the pf contribution only,pension amount will be given if you contribute to 6 months only.ok seema u eligible to pf claim . from: jignesh vasava
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Seema,
You cannot withdraw your EPF (&EPS) because you are still in the same establishment, and there is no definition of off-roll employee and on-roll employee. So if the establishment is the same, then the EPF number given to you would also be the same as before. If they are saying that you are not eligible for EPF, then they are talking nonsense.
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Atom
From India, Phagwara
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You cannot withdraw your EPF (&EPS) because you are still in the same establishment, and there is no definition of off-roll employee and on-roll employee. So if the establishment is the same, then the EPF number given to you would also be the same as before. If they are saying that you are not eligible for EPF, then they are talking nonsense.
Stay Cool,
Atom
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and u can not withrawal ur pf currently beacause pf withdrawal resign after 2 month.
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Dear Sir,
I have one more question as I have been working in the same organization for the past 3 years on company payroll. However, for the initial 3 months, I worked on a third-party roll for the same current organization. Am I eligible to withdraw my PF now? Also, why am I unable to withdraw any pension, and what about the employer contribution for the same?
Let's suppose my basic salary is 12 thousand per month. How much amount will I receive for PF withdrawal for the 3-month duration? Kindly assist me with this.
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From India, New Delhi
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I have one more question as I have been working in the same organization for the past 3 years on company payroll. However, for the initial 3 months, I worked on a third-party roll for the same current organization. Am I eligible to withdraw my PF now? Also, why am I unable to withdraw any pension, and what about the employer contribution for the same?
Let's suppose my basic salary is 12 thousand per month. How much amount will I receive for PF withdrawal for the 3-month duration? Kindly assist me with this.
Regards
From India, New Delhi
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also please let me know about the percentage amount of PF and Pension contribution for the same regards Seema
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ur 12000/- basic salary 12%+ differance pf-pension= ur total pf fund in ur pf fund = 4320/-+2697/-= 7017/- in ur pension fund = 1623 /-
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dear seema plz tell me third party ? u worked in contract 3 months?
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Dear Jignesh, Thnx alot but can you please elaborate it a bit more the figures calculation regards
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its like i am working for this company but i was outsourced by another one for Example Addecoo, Apex Protection etc.
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Seema,
EPF (& EPS) deduction less than 6 months. The amount of EPF will be refunded to you, and EPS will be forfeited. So do not try to withdraw when your service is less than 6 months.
EPF is 12% from the employee + 3.67% from the employer EPS is 8.33% from the employer only. Now if the salary is Rs. 12000, then EPF 12% = 1440 + 3.67% = 440 + 459 = 2339 (459 from EPS share, the reason being EPS has a ceiling of Rs. 6500, i.e., 6500*8.33% = Rs. 541) & EPS 8.33% = 541 (the excess amount is adjusted in EPF 3.67% share).
To your question about the amount of EPF for 3 months: 2339 * 3 = 7017 & EPS 541 * 3 = 1623.
Note: In everything above, if the employer implemented a ceiling of Rs. 6500 (basic), then even though you are getting a basic Rs. 12000, the employer is not bound to pay EPF up to Rs. 12000. He can restrict his share to Rs. 6500, i.e., 6500 * 12% = 780 not 12000 * 12% = 1440.
I hope you understood.
Stay Cool, Atom
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EPF (& EPS) deduction less than 6 months. The amount of EPF will be refunded to you, and EPS will be forfeited. So do not try to withdraw when your service is less than 6 months.
EPF is 12% from the employee + 3.67% from the employer EPS is 8.33% from the employer only. Now if the salary is Rs. 12000, then EPF 12% = 1440 + 3.67% = 440 + 459 = 2339 (459 from EPS share, the reason being EPS has a ceiling of Rs. 6500, i.e., 6500*8.33% = Rs. 541) & EPS 8.33% = 541 (the excess amount is adjusted in EPF 3.67% share).
To your question about the amount of EPF for 3 months: 2339 * 3 = 7017 & EPS 541 * 3 = 1623.
Note: In everything above, if the employer implemented a ceiling of Rs. 6500 (basic), then even though you are getting a basic Rs. 12000, the employer is not bound to pay EPF up to Rs. 12000. He can restrict his share to Rs. 6500, i.e., 6500 * 12% = 780 not 12000 * 12% = 1440.
I hope you understood.
Stay Cool, Atom
From India, Phagwara
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Basic salary PF contribution: 12000*12% = 1440, 1440*3 = 4320
Pension limit: 6500*8.33% = 541, 541*3 = 1623
Difference PF-pension: 1440-541 = 899, 899*3 = 2697
Pension amount will be given if you contribute for 6 months only.
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Pension limit: 6500*8.33% = 541, 541*3 = 1623
Difference PF-pension: 1440-541 = 899, 899*3 = 2697
Pension amount will be given if you contribute for 6 months only.
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Dear sir,
In that calculation, I understood the pf percentage of 12% of 4320/- and EPS amount of Rs. 1623/-, but I do not understand the Rs. 2697/- component. Could you please provide me with the details of the calculation for it?
Advance Thanks.
From India, Hyderabad
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In that calculation, I understood the pf percentage of 12% of 4320/- and EPS amount of Rs. 1623/-, but I do not understand the Rs. 2697/- component. Could you please provide me with the details of the calculation for it?
Advance Thanks.
From India, Hyderabad
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Dear Seema,
As per PF rules, if an employee's service is less than six months, then he/she can withdraw only the EPF share, and the FPF amount cannot be withdrawn. The FPF amount can be transferred to your PF account.
With regards,
Karan Chaudhary
From United States
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As per PF rules, if an employee's service is less than six months, then he/she can withdraw only the EPF share, and the FPF amount cannot be withdrawn. The FPF amount can be transferred to your PF account.
With regards,
Karan Chaudhary
From United States
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Dear Seema,
Greetings for the day.
I agree with jcvasava that EPF accumulation can be withdrawn by simply filling out Form 19 and getting it attested by the employer. If the employer is not willing to sign the form, you can get it attested by your bank manager or a gazetted officer. Submit the form to the concerned EPFO along with a letter complaining about the employer not signing the EPF withdrawal claim. EPFO will promptly address your complaint by sending someone from their team to facilitate the employer's signature. To access EPS accumulation, a minimum service/contribution of 180 days is mandatory.
Thanks & Regards,
Sumit Kumar Saxena
From India, Ghaziabad
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Greetings for the day.
I agree with jcvasava that EPF accumulation can be withdrawn by simply filling out Form 19 and getting it attested by the employer. If the employer is not willing to sign the form, you can get it attested by your bank manager or a gazetted officer. Submit the form to the concerned EPFO along with a letter complaining about the employer not signing the EPF withdrawal claim. EPFO will promptly address your complaint by sending someone from their team to facilitate the employer's signature. To access EPS accumulation, a minimum service/contribution of 180 days is mandatory.
Thanks & Regards,
Sumit Kumar Saxena
From India, Ghaziabad
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