Dear All, I am working with one MNC organisation since last three months, Just now I resign; and till last date my duration with this company would be 4 months and 5 days. My question is – Can I get My PF amount (fully). Because I heard that, if someone leave company about 3 months then he/ she can get only PF contribution amount not Pension contribution amount. Is it true? Your valuable suggestions will be appreciable.
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Amol

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ya you will be getting the pf contribution only,pension amount will be given if you contribute to 6 months only.
From India, Hyderabad
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Thank you, Sir. I have one more question regarding the same topic - the PF contribution is 3.67% on basic, but what would be the employer's contribution for the PF amount (i.e., are there any administrative charges included or not)?

I think:
- 3.67% from the employee's side
- 3.67% from the employer's side
- 1.10% administrative charges on the PF contribution.

Is this the correct calculation for PF only?

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Amol

From India, Mumbai
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For pension minimum 10years' service required. If the service less than 10years, one time withdrawal benefit can be claimed subject to a minimum service of 6 months. If the service is even less, the pensionable service can be transfered to club with future service. Sheme Certificate can also be applied.
Abbas.P.S

From India, Bangalore
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Mr. Khanna is right you can withdraw your EPF accumulation only not eps rather to withdraw get your accumaulation transferred. sumit
From India, Ghaziabad
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Ok. It means I can transfer my PF to a new account. Sir, but the thing is here my PF number is from Maharashtra and my new PF number would be from Gurgaon. So, will there be any problem transferring this PF amount to the new account.
From India, Mumbai
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Dear Amol,

You have the full right to the amount, whether you or your employer contributed towards the PF account, whether it is for 3 months or for 1 day. Regarding the pension, you must complete 6 months in one organization to avail of the pension scheme.

Transferring the PF is not an issue. Submit Form 13 to your current employer, and they will take care of the rest.

From India, Calcutta
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Hi all,

I still have one point that is unclear to me: If I complete the PF transfer process, will my pension amount also be transferred? Alternatively, if I fill out Form No. 13, will both my PF and pension amounts be transferred to the new PF account?

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Amol

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Dear Amol, Definitely the Pension amount will get transfered along with the PF Amount. Attaching the Form 13. plz go through it.
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Employee contribution is 12%, and employer contributes 13.61% out of which 8.33% - Pension 3.67% - PF 1.10% - PF Admn Charge 0.50% - EDLI 0.01% - EDLI Admn Charge
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Dear All,

Kindly advise, if an employee worked for 1 year and 7 months and then absconded because of illness and sent the resignation through mail with a medical certificate. Now he is requesting his PF claim. How should we proceed further?

Regards,
Anitha Charles

From India, Chennai
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Dear Anitha, He have to submit the Form 19 to the HR Dept & then the form must be forwarded to PF office for further necessary process.
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Dear Santhosh,

He didn't give a hard copy of his resignation, and he only provided knowledge transfer through a phone call. Are there any restrictions to processing his PF? Kindly advise. My senior is asking me to delay the process.

Regards,
Anitha Charles

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Dear Amol,

Let me give you a specific answer to your question. Your service is 4 months and 5 days.

PF Contributions were:
a) Employee 12% - this amount fully goes into Account No.1 called PF.
b) Employer 3.67% - this also goes into Account No.1.
c) Employer 8.33% - this goes into Account No.2 Pension Fund.

For your service of 4 months and 5 days, you have two options:
A) If you wish to withdraw, you will receive amounts (a) + (b) as stated above. Amount (c) will be forfeited. The withdrawal form is allowed after 60 days from the last working day.
B) You can transfer your account to a new employer in Gurgaon by submitting Transfer Form-13 through your next employer there. If you transfer, all items (a), (b), and (c) above will be transferred. Please note that inter-state transfers may take some time. These days, EPF transactions are done online, and your next employer can assist you.

Wishing you all the best.

Ravi
Adviser - HR Management

From India, Bangalore
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Dear Anitha,

The employer cannot hold the PF of any employee in any case. In a normal scenario, when an employee resigns from the organization, the employer processes Form 19 to submit the employee's details to the PF office. In your situation, the employee can have his Form 19 certified by the local authority (Sarpanch) for identification.

Thank you.

From India, Calcutta
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Yes, we can withdraw our PF and Employee Pension Fund amount. For PF withdrawal, fill out form 19 for PF and form 10 for EPF, and attach the same. In the case of withdrawal, the amount will be transferred to the bank account you provide in the form. Normally, it will take around six months to complete the transaction as part of the procedure to be done through the PF office.

Regards,
Prashant (HR-Executive)

From India, Mumbai
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Dearl All, What is an legal action or any section can be taken on the employer if they are not processing the PF. Regards Anitha Charles
From India, Chennai
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Dear Anitha, You can lodge a complaint in Labour Court or in PF Department also against your employer.
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I am sakthivel i am working in h-power thermal engg next month i will leave this company . My doubt is can i get new pf account please tell me urgent
From India, Madras
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Dear Sakthivel, The PF office will not give you new PF account every time you change your company. The same account will be mentained by your current employer.
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The organization where I was working was started only 10 months back. The company had started deducting PF from employees' salaries without opening PF accounts. I quit the organization in 3 months and 15 days. Can I withdraw my PF as the account is still not opened? The account team said I am not eligible for any amount as I have not completed 6 months in the organization. Should I file a complaint of fraud against the company for deducting amounts without account opening and denying to give money?
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If service is less than 6 months, only PF amount can be withdrawn. Pension amount lapses. Kindly refer EPS scheme 1995.

Determination of eligible service.

The eligible service shall be determined as follows:

(a) In the case of "new entrant," the "actual service" shall be treated as eligible service. The total actual service shall be rounded off to the nearest year. The fraction of service for six months or more shall be treated as one year, and the service less than six months shall be ignored.

Explanation:

In the case of employees employed seasonally in any establishment, the period of "actual service" in any year, notwithstanding that such service is less than a year, shall be treated as a full year.

(b) In the case of the "existing member," the aggregate of actual service and the 'past service' shall be treated as eligible service.

Provided that if there is any period in the "past service" for which the contributions towards the Family Pension Scheme, 1971 have not been received, the said period shall count as eligible service only if the contributions thereof have been received in the Employees' Pension Fund.

Explanation: For the purpose of this sub-paragraph, the total past service for less than six months shall be ignored, and the total past service for six months and above shall be rounded to a year.

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Hi, I worked 3 months in a company they deducted 1800 towards pf for three months can i withdraw my pf amount. Please clarify me.
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Hi,

I have a UAN number attached to two companies. In the first company, I have been working for 2 years, and in the second one for 5 months. When I tried to withdraw my PF amount, the PF officer informed me that I can only withdraw from one company's PF account. Why is this the case? Please help me.

Thank you.

From India, New+Delhi
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Dear Nitin,

Greetings for the day.

It is better to engage in the withdrawal process to transfer your accumulation. The whole process is enclosed herewith for your reference. EPFO is providing a facility to the members to merge their previous EPF accounts with their current one for the integration of all previous accounts with the current UAN activated EPF account. The said functionality has been provided on the EPFO website under Our Services > For Employees > One Employee..One EPF Account by accessing the URL [One Employee One PF](http://103.194.45.139//UANDEDUP). The circular with a flow chart is hereby enclosed for reference by EPFO. Please go through the enclosed circular as well.

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Actually, I have been working for only 5 months and 25 days. After working for these months, I submitted my resignation. Following the resignation, there is a requirement of one month to complete all the necessary processes, during which I am still working.

So, my question is, would I be able to withdraw my PF amount?

Please reply as soon as possible.

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Dear Sir/Madam,

My service is only 3 years and 6 months in the organization. I have resigned from that company because they asked me to resign. Currently, I am not working; it has been approximately 4 months. Can I get full 100% EPF & EPS through online? Please suggest me.

Thank you.

From India, Chennai
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Can I withdraw my pf money in one or two months while working in organisations?
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I worked at my first company for 3 years and at my second company for 5 months. I transferred my EPF old account to a new account. I submitted my claim online for PF final settlement, which was processed within 25 days. However, when I tried to claim my pension withdrawal (Form 10C) online, it showed an error stating, "Service is less than 6 months and more than 10 years." My question is, how can I withdraw my pension amount?
From India, Kolkata
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