Dear All,
In my company, we have a web designer who always arrives late to the office. Since I joined (almost a year now), I have tried various techniques to encourage him to be punctual, such as salary deductions and marking down his performance, but he has not shown any improvement. Please suggest some creative ideas to help him become more punctual.
Thank you.
With Kind Regards,
Mandeep Kaur
HR & Marketing Executive
01 Synergy
From India, Ludhiana
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In my company, we have a web designer who always arrives late to the office. Since I joined (almost a year now), I have tried various techniques to encourage him to be punctual, such as salary deductions and marking down his performance, but he has not shown any improvement. Please suggest some creative ideas to help him become more punctual.
Thank you.
With Kind Regards,
Mandeep Kaur
HR & Marketing Executive
01 Synergy
From India, Ludhiana
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Mandeep,
Why have you been tolerating this employee for the past year? In all likelihood, he is suffering from an "indispensable" complex. This means he feels he is irreplaceable in the organization, and therefore he believes he can do whatever he wants and get away with it. Your failure to address his indiscipline is concerning.
You should discuss the situation with your management and issue him an official notice of two months. Utilize this time to search for his replacement. If he shows improvement, consider retaining him; otherwise, replace him by the end of the notice period.
Cheers,
Navneet
From India, Delhi
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86Why have you been tolerating this employee for the past year? In all likelihood, he is suffering from an "indispensable" complex. This means he feels he is irreplaceable in the organization, and therefore he believes he can do whatever he wants and get away with it. Your failure to address his indiscipline is concerning.
You should discuss the situation with your management and issue him an official notice of two months. Utilize this time to search for his replacement. If he shows improvement, consider retaining him; otherwise, replace him by the end of the notice period.
Cheers,
Navneet
From India, Delhi
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Hi Navneet,
Thank you for your quick reply. I spoke to management, but I don't know for what reason they are keeping him in the company. Every time, they will say, "just give him one more chance."
Mandeep Kaur
From India, Ludhiana
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Thank you for your quick reply. I spoke to management, but I don't know for what reason they are keeping him in the company. Every time, they will say, "just give him one more chance."
Mandeep Kaur
From India, Ludhiana
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That's exactly the point. They are unsure if they will get his kind of skills at the cost he is coming to them at, hence the tolerance. Sorry, Mandeep, but there is little you can do in this case. HR is helpless if their proposals or initiatives are not driven, supported, or cemented by the management.
Another thing you can attempt as a last resort is to review the attendance of everyone. Select those who regularly come late and then project it to the management that it is because of our inability to check the web designer that the indiscipline is increasing and could affect the image of the organization, or you could introduce the concept of Flexi Timings.
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Another thing you can attempt as a last resort is to review the attendance of everyone. Select those who regularly come late and then project it to the management that it is because of our inability to check the web designer that the indiscipline is increasing and could affect the image of the organization, or you could introduce the concept of Flexi Timings.
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Dear Mandeep,
Punctuality and attendance are the most nagging problems in the industry. It is not always beneficial to adopt a strict disciplinary approach to deal with it. The way your management is kind to his conduct suggests that there may be some positive side of him, such as completing his responsibilities without much headache for the management. Therefore, they are not willing to dispense with him, or it may be that they are not willing to incur higher hiring costs again for a web designer.
However, I suggest the following method:
1) There may be various reasons for an employee to come late. Some reasons may seem silly, like being lazy, but there may also be some justifiable causes, such as ailing family members who need attention, family problems, or the inconvenient location of the office from his house, which is also an important factor in cities like Mumbai.
2) Call the employee and ask him why he is coming late regularly. Listen to him first.
3) If he has some genuine problems, think of solutions where you can have a win-win situation. For example, you can alter his working hours or ask him to stay late to compensate for coming in late, etc.
B. Saikumar
HR & Labour Law Consultant
Chipinbiz Consultancy Pvt. Ltd
Mumbai
Tel: 022-28324234
From India, Mumbai
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Punctuality and attendance are the most nagging problems in the industry. It is not always beneficial to adopt a strict disciplinary approach to deal with it. The way your management is kind to his conduct suggests that there may be some positive side of him, such as completing his responsibilities without much headache for the management. Therefore, they are not willing to dispense with him, or it may be that they are not willing to incur higher hiring costs again for a web designer.
However, I suggest the following method:
1) There may be various reasons for an employee to come late. Some reasons may seem silly, like being lazy, but there may also be some justifiable causes, such as ailing family members who need attention, family problems, or the inconvenient location of the office from his house, which is also an important factor in cities like Mumbai.
2) Call the employee and ask him why he is coming late regularly. Listen to him first.
3) If he has some genuine problems, think of solutions where you can have a win-win situation. For example, you can alter his working hours or ask him to stay late to compensate for coming in late, etc.
B. Saikumar
HR & Labour Law Consultant
Chipinbiz Consultancy Pvt. Ltd
Mumbai
Tel: 022-28324234
From India, Mumbai
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Dear Sai Kumar,
I have discussed these things with him many times. He directly says that he is lazy, and I have offered him flexible timings. For instance, when he is asked to come at 9 am, he will arrive around 9:30. If I call him at 9:30 am, he will come at 10 am. He doesn't have any genuine reason for this tardiness.
Thanks,
Mandeep Kaur
From India, Ludhiana
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I have discussed these things with him many times. He directly says that he is lazy, and I have offered him flexible timings. For instance, when he is asked to come at 9 am, he will arrive around 9:30. If I call him at 9:30 am, he will come at 10 am. He doesn't have any genuine reason for this tardiness.
Thanks,
Mandeep Kaur
From India, Ludhiana
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Dear Mandeep,
Once again discuss the matter with your employee in a gentle way and explain him why it is a problem, You can explain that it hurts the morale of the office by letting his coworkers see that he skirts the rules, while they are doing their part to obey them.
If your gentle talk and reminders don’t do the trick, begin documenting the employee’s tardiness, issue him a warning letter.This is always a good way to wake someone up a little. If it continues, write him up again and have your seniors to have a discussion wth that employee.
If nothing has changed, have a discussion with your management along with the related documents like attendance report and copy of the warning letters issued. If you have the power, let him go out of your organization.
With Regards,
Priyadarshini
From India, Bangalore
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Once again discuss the matter with your employee in a gentle way and explain him why it is a problem, You can explain that it hurts the morale of the office by letting his coworkers see that he skirts the rules, while they are doing their part to obey them.
If your gentle talk and reminders don’t do the trick, begin documenting the employee’s tardiness, issue him a warning letter.This is always a good way to wake someone up a little. If it continues, write him up again and have your seniors to have a discussion wth that employee.
If nothing has changed, have a discussion with your management along with the related documents like attendance report and copy of the warning letters issued. If you have the power, let him go out of your organization.
With Regards,
Priyadarshini
From India, Bangalore
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Dear Mandeep,
I just read all the problems you have been facing for the last few months. I would like to suggest the following:
1) Firstly, issue a circular to all employees stating that only 3 instances of latecoming will be allowed in severe cases. After being late, employees must inform HR or their seniors. If an employee is late more than 3 times in a month, there will be a deduction from their salary.
2) Then, issue a latecoming letter for every instance of tardiness and pay special attention to that individual.
3) If the same employee is late more than 3 times, deduct half a day's salary for each late arrival and continue to issue latecoming letters regularly. Don't forget to keep a receiving copy of the latecoming letter.
Neeraj Sharma
From India, Delhi
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I just read all the problems you have been facing for the last few months. I would like to suggest the following:
1) Firstly, issue a circular to all employees stating that only 3 instances of latecoming will be allowed in severe cases. After being late, employees must inform HR or their seniors. If an employee is late more than 3 times in a month, there will be a deduction from their salary.
2) Then, issue a latecoming letter for every instance of tardiness and pay special attention to that individual.
3) If the same employee is late more than 3 times, deduct half a day's salary for each late arrival and continue to issue latecoming letters regularly. Don't forget to keep a receiving copy of the latecoming letter.
Neeraj Sharma
From India, Delhi
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Dear Mandeep,
In our office, every month, we update the notice board with details of late data. We inform all staff during the general meeting. One supplier who saw the notice asked the staff about it. The following day, that person arrived on time.
Every staff member saw the notice board and shared a laugh, as nowadays the difference in lateness is only five minutes. The HR Manager should avoid speaking excessively to employees about unnecessary matters. He should focus on performing his duties without fear. The Managing Director should not interfere with his work. Allow for occasional exceptions. Ensure that the systems are operating effectively. If an individual is consistently late, take appropriate action.
Our country has many qualified individuals available. Some employees may have been recommended or entered the company due to miscalculations.
Regards,
K. Venkat
From India, Bhopal
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In our office, every month, we update the notice board with details of late data. We inform all staff during the general meeting. One supplier who saw the notice asked the staff about it. The following day, that person arrived on time.
Every staff member saw the notice board and shared a laugh, as nowadays the difference in lateness is only five minutes. The HR Manager should avoid speaking excessively to employees about unnecessary matters. He should focus on performing his duties without fear. The Managing Director should not interfere with his work. Allow for occasional exceptions. Ensure that the systems are operating effectively. If an individual is consistently late, take appropriate action.
Our country has many qualified individuals available. Some employees may have been recommended or entered the company due to miscalculations.
Regards,
K. Venkat
From India, Bhopal
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Dear Mandeep,
Find out secretly his interest. Give some interesting workload of his choice related to the office/organization, and see the change. As management wants to retain him, find out his skills apart from web designing and try to implement the same thing in web designing. Try out this way. He may improve. Try the ways positively.
Regards,
Abhinandan.
From India, Hubli
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Find out secretly his interest. Give some interesting workload of his choice related to the office/organization, and see the change. As management wants to retain him, find out his skills apart from web designing and try to implement the same thing in web designing. Try out this way. He may improve. Try the ways positively.
Regards,
Abhinandan.
From India, Hubli
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Dear Mandeep,
This is a small issue. Why are you taking this so seriously? Like the way we have the best employee of the week on the notice board, place recognition for the best latecomer. As he feels bad to see his name on the notice board, definitely he changes his attitude.
Ram
From India, Bangalore
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This is a small issue. Why are you taking this so seriously? Like the way we have the best employee of the week on the notice board, place recognition for the best latecomer. As he feels bad to see his name on the notice board, definitely he changes his attitude.
Ram
From India, Bangalore
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Dear Mandeep,
Put him on a critical job, assign him tasks that are very critical and involve heaps of work. If he is unable to perform properly, evaluate his performance and ask for resignation.
Also, if he is a good performer and always finishes his work within the deadline, then I must say you need to give him some flexibility. After all, it's performance that matters at the end of the day.
Thank you,
Krishna Sati
+91 955 516 8982
From India, Delhi
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Put him on a critical job, assign him tasks that are very critical and involve heaps of work. If he is unable to perform properly, evaluate his performance and ask for resignation.
Also, if he is a good performer and always finishes his work within the deadline, then I must say you need to give him some flexibility. After all, it's performance that matters at the end of the day.
Thank you,
Krishna Sati
+91 955 516 8982
From India, Delhi
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Dear Mandeep,
If you are not getting the management support, here are a few things that can be done to improve his punctuality:
1. Deduct his salary after three instances of coming late, but only for a grace period of 15 minutes.
2. Alternatively, you can offer him flexible hours up to 11 am, expecting him to work 8.30 or 9 hours in the office. If he fails to meet the required hours, you can deduct his salary according to the company's rules and regulations.
I believe implementing flexible hours will help resolve the punctuality issue. If there is still no improvement, consider issuing a warning letter or terminating his employment.
Regards,
Shikha
From United States
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If you are not getting the management support, here are a few things that can be done to improve his punctuality:
1. Deduct his salary after three instances of coming late, but only for a grace period of 15 minutes.
2. Alternatively, you can offer him flexible hours up to 11 am, expecting him to work 8.30 or 9 hours in the office. If he fails to meet the required hours, you can deduct his salary according to the company's rules and regulations.
I believe implementing flexible hours will help resolve the punctuality issue. If there is still no improvement, consider issuing a warning letter or terminating his employment.
Regards,
Shikha
From United States
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Dear Mandeep,
Approach a friendly measure, just give it a try. After assigning all the interesting tasks, call him early in the morning to ensure he reaches the office on time. Follow this routine for one month consistently, and you will notice the change. Just give it a try.
Regards,
Nicholas
From India, Madras
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Approach a friendly measure, just give it a try. After assigning all the interesting tasks, call him early in the morning to ensure he reaches the office on time. Follow this routine for one month consistently, and you will notice the change. Just give it a try.
Regards,
Nicholas
From India, Madras
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All,
I read in a response from Mandeep that the employee who comes late due to his tardiness arrives at 9:30 if he is scheduled to start at 9:00, or at 10:00 if he is supposed to come in at 9:30.
Therefore, my suggestion is to call him 30 minutes before he is required to clock in or show up at the office. If he is given flexible hours beginning at 10:00 am, inform him in writing or verbally that he must be present by 9:30 am. I hope this resolves the issue.
What do you think? I am attempting to offer a solution based on the information provided. Verbal or written warnings, discussions with management, or allowing him to explain his situation or be on a flexible schedule have not yielded satisfactory results for the HR department. So why not consider implementing the employee's technique? However, ensure that the timepiece he relies on is synchronized with the official time.
Thank you.
From United States, Saint Albans
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I read in a response from Mandeep that the employee who comes late due to his tardiness arrives at 9:30 if he is scheduled to start at 9:00, or at 10:00 if he is supposed to come in at 9:30.
Therefore, my suggestion is to call him 30 minutes before he is required to clock in or show up at the office. If he is given flexible hours beginning at 10:00 am, inform him in writing or verbally that he must be present by 9:30 am. I hope this resolves the issue.
What do you think? I am attempting to offer a solution based on the information provided. Verbal or written warnings, discussions with management, or allowing him to explain his situation or be on a flexible schedule have not yielded satisfactory results for the HR department. So why not consider implementing the employee's technique? However, ensure that the timepiece he relies on is synchronized with the official time.
Thank you.
From United States, Saint Albans
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Hi Mandeep. I strongly agree with Mr. B. Saikumar - don't forget that as an HR professional, you need to play the role of a counselor as well. There might be some root cause for his regular late coming. Despite taking disciplinary actions, find out the root cause of the problem and discuss it with the employee. You can also show the efforts you have made to resolve this issue. I am sure that he will definitely understand your concern too.
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Hi Mandeep,
It is a very sensitive issue. What I can suggest to you is to motivate him to come on time by implementing the following methods:
1. You can create a monthly punctual staff list.
2. You can send out a group appreciation email for punctual staff.
3. You can also organize an event at the end of the month by giving a small gift to the employee who is very punctual for that particular month.
I believe that by implementing these practices, you can motivate him to come on time.
Best regards,
Chandra Mohan Rao
+91 9880136737
Bangalore
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It is a very sensitive issue. What I can suggest to you is to motivate him to come on time by implementing the following methods:
1. You can create a monthly punctual staff list.
2. You can send out a group appreciation email for punctual staff.
3. You can also organize an event at the end of the month by giving a small gift to the employee who is very punctual for that particular month.
I believe that by implementing these practices, you can motivate him to come on time.
Best regards,
Chandra Mohan Rao
+91 9880136737
Bangalore
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Dear Mandeep,
What I think is to deduct his salary when he comes late to the office regularly. When he gets irritated, he goes to higher management to ask why his salary is deducted every month. Then, you should provide all his attendance details and stop his increment. This way, he can understand that it's not good to break office timing.
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What I think is to deduct his salary when he comes late to the office regularly. When he gets irritated, he goes to higher management to ask why his salary is deducted every month. Then, you should provide all his attendance details and stop his increment. This way, he can understand that it's not good to break office timing.
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Dear Mandeep,
Please answer the following questions and make a decision accordingly:
1) Is he the only web designer available to you on Earth?
2) Is he such an important asset to your company that you are in dire need of him?
3) Is he the sole employee of your organization?
4) What justice has been served to other punctual employees?
5) It is disheartening that despite being labeled as lazy, he still remains with the organization. What message are we conveying to the other employees by allowing this to continue?
6) How many valuable man-hours have been wasted on him?
7) If those hours had been spent on recruiting good designers, you would have had a handful of staff at your disposal.
8) Please reflect on this...
Thank you.
From India, Coimbatore
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Please answer the following questions and make a decision accordingly:
1) Is he the only web designer available to you on Earth?
2) Is he such an important asset to your company that you are in dire need of him?
3) Is he the sole employee of your organization?
4) What justice has been served to other punctual employees?
5) It is disheartening that despite being labeled as lazy, he still remains with the organization. What message are we conveying to the other employees by allowing this to continue?
6) How many valuable man-hours have been wasted on him?
7) If those hours had been spent on recruiting good designers, you would have had a handful of staff at your disposal.
8) Please reflect on this...
Thank you.
From India, Coimbatore
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Dear mandip, i am agree with Mr. sardhar, please take print of reply of mr. sardhar and send your management. regards, dada
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Why is punctuality a problem?
Is this man doing what he was hired to do?
If the answer is “No,” start disciplinary measures against him and he will either leave or be sacked.
If the answer is “Yes,” you have two options:
The first is to leave him alone, he will continue to do what he has been hired to do.
The second is to continue to treat him as if he was a small child who has to have his legs slapped because he was late for school.
If you continue behaving in this way towards him he will definitely leave and when he does it will be because of the way he has been treated by you.
You are wasting your company’s time and money by pursuing something that adds no value to your organisation.
If the cost of replacing this man when he quits came from your own pocket would you be so keen to behave in this way to make him leave?
Peter A Hunter
BreakingtheMould.co.uk
From United Kingdom, Nottingham
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Is this man doing what he was hired to do?
If the answer is “No,” start disciplinary measures against him and he will either leave or be sacked.
If the answer is “Yes,” you have two options:
The first is to leave him alone, he will continue to do what he has been hired to do.
The second is to continue to treat him as if he was a small child who has to have his legs slapped because he was late for school.
If you continue behaving in this way towards him he will definitely leave and when he does it will be because of the way he has been treated by you.
You are wasting your company’s time and money by pursuing something that adds no value to your organisation.
If the cost of replacing this man when he quits came from your own pocket would you be so keen to behave in this way to make him leave?
Peter A Hunter
BreakingtheMould.co.uk
From United Kingdom, Nottingham
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First, suggest to him to maintain his routine timetable and check how many minutes he is late. Then, advise him to leave his home at least 1 hour prior to his timetable. I am sure this will work out.
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Sheerin
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From India, Bangalore
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With warm regards,
Sheerin
WISH YOU A HAPPY NEW YEAR
From India, Bangalore
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Mandeep i study the case and the problem is psychological with the gentleman and he don’t understand the value of time so you just counselling with him & he’ll improve slowly.
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Firstly, does the work suffer? Does he fail to meet the deadline? No one really knows why the management is supportive of this indiscipline employee. You can try telling the management that if one employee is allowed this slackness, then every other employee is demanding flexi-hours, and that you have to grant it as an office cannot have different rules for different employees.
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First thing is to counsel him about the late coming (maybe by a suitable higher official with whom he is a bit comfortable, open, or friendly).
Secondly, salary deduction or deducting marks from his performance is not really a correct approach (unless a policy is in place, for example, three times late results in half-day leave deduction, etc.) If you are deducting leaves as per the above, please leave the matter there and stop bothering.
Thirdly, consider the time he is leaving the office (whether his job profile requires him to stay late). As an HR person, you should first take that into consideration as well (you have only mentioned he comes late).
Fourthly, ask him if the timings for him have changed to come in 30/40 minutes later and leave also 30/40 minutes later. I have seen this in many companies, especially in the case of ladies when they are pregnant.
As an HR person, try to delve into the individual's concerns and find the best possible solutions. Penalizing should be the last option.
Request your company to provide you with good HR and interpersonal training to enhance your skills.
Venkata Krishnamohan
From India, Madras
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Secondly, salary deduction or deducting marks from his performance is not really a correct approach (unless a policy is in place, for example, three times late results in half-day leave deduction, etc.) If you are deducting leaves as per the above, please leave the matter there and stop bothering.
Thirdly, consider the time he is leaving the office (whether his job profile requires him to stay late). As an HR person, you should first take that into consideration as well (you have only mentioned he comes late).
Fourthly, ask him if the timings for him have changed to come in 30/40 minutes later and leave also 30/40 minutes later. I have seen this in many companies, especially in the case of ladies when they are pregnant.
As an HR person, try to delve into the individual's concerns and find the best possible solutions. Penalizing should be the last option.
Request your company to provide you with good HR and interpersonal training to enhance your skills.
Venkata Krishnamohan
From India, Madras
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First thing is to counsel him about the late coming (maybe by a suitable higher official with whom he is a bit comfortable, open, or friendly).
Secondly, salary deduction or deducting marks from his performance is not really a correct approach unless a policy is in place, for example, three instances of being late result in half-day leave deduction, etc. If you are deducting leaves as per the above, please leave the matter there and stop bothering.
Thirdly, consider what time he is leaving the office (whether his job profile requires him to stay late). As an HR person, you should first take that into consideration as well (you have only mentioned he comes late).
Fourthly, ask him if his timings can be adjusted to come in 30/40 minutes later and leave 30/40 minutes later. I have seen this in many companies, especially in the case of women when they are pregnant.
As an HR professional, try to delve into the individual's concerns and find the best possible solutions. Penalizing should be the last option.
Request your company to provide you with good HR and interpersonal training to enhance your skills.
Venkata Krishnamohan
From India, Madras
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Secondly, salary deduction or deducting marks from his performance is not really a correct approach unless a policy is in place, for example, three instances of being late result in half-day leave deduction, etc. If you are deducting leaves as per the above, please leave the matter there and stop bothering.
Thirdly, consider what time he is leaving the office (whether his job profile requires him to stay late). As an HR person, you should first take that into consideration as well (you have only mentioned he comes late).
Fourthly, ask him if his timings can be adjusted to come in 30/40 minutes later and leave 30/40 minutes later. I have seen this in many companies, especially in the case of women when they are pregnant.
As an HR professional, try to delve into the individual's concerns and find the best possible solutions. Penalizing should be the last option.
Request your company to provide you with good HR and interpersonal training to enhance your skills.
Venkata Krishnamohan
From India, Madras
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Dear Mandeep,
Give him a panic that he may lose his job, until and unless he fears losing his job, it is tough to correct him. You may also act as per the labor laws of the country; submit the law reference to your management and help them understand that if this latecomer is not addressed, others may be inspired to arrive late, potentially causing a breakdown in discipline. You can make the management understand this way for the greater interest of the organization.
Haidar
Manager (HR & Compliance)
From Bangladesh, Dhaka
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Give him a panic that he may lose his job, until and unless he fears losing his job, it is tough to correct him. You may also act as per the labor laws of the country; submit the law reference to your management and help them understand that if this latecomer is not addressed, others may be inspired to arrive late, potentially causing a breakdown in discipline. You can make the management understand this way for the greater interest of the organization.
Haidar
Manager (HR & Compliance)
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Dear Mandeep,
Please ask all the employees to gather near the entrance. As soon as he enters, reward him with a bouquet. Address all the employees, stating that no one can be as consistent as him. Through such consistency, he has set a standard for all of us, which will be a challenge for the upcoming generation, etc.
That will definitely dig deep in his heart. If possible, ask the HR to take away his card as it's of no use (Just address it in front of HR and all, no need to take it away). Though this method won't work (I wish it could), but that would be enough to satisfy your conscience.
From India, Mumbai
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Please ask all the employees to gather near the entrance. As soon as he enters, reward him with a bouquet. Address all the employees, stating that no one can be as consistent as him. Through such consistency, he has set a standard for all of us, which will be a challenge for the upcoming generation, etc.
That will definitely dig deep in his heart. If possible, ask the HR to take away his card as it's of no use (Just address it in front of HR and all, no need to take it away). Though this method won't work (I wish it could), but that would be enough to satisfy your conscience.
From India, Mumbai
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Dear Mandeep,
Please take a printout of all the suggestions, advice, etc., make two copies, and present it to him as a NEW YEAR GIFT. Give one copy to management. I think it is a simple and polite way of solving it permanently.
Regards,
Abhinandan.
From India, Hubli
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Please take a printout of all the suggestions, advice, etc., make two copies, and present it to him as a NEW YEAR GIFT. Give one copy to management. I think it is a simple and polite way of solving it permanently.
Regards,
Abhinandan.
From India, Hubli
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Dear Mandeep, Mr. K. Venkat has given very good an idea, you put the name on notice board who will come late. with regards, Pankaj Bhalerao
From India, New Delhi
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1. Late arrival or leaving early are not a bane; only unscheduled leaves affect the bottom line. This is based on real-life practices in the top 200 firms employing MBNQA.
2. If it's a personal issue, the case merits attention under the Employee Assistance Program.
From India, Delhi
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2. If it's a personal issue, the case merits attention under the Employee Assistance Program.
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Dear ALL,
I think everyone is missing a point here. The Management knows of his indiscipline and has no problems with it or does not feel it warrants any action.
For Mandeep, unfortunately, this is her biggest problem. The issue is not the web designer. He is consistently displaying behavior that says "you cannot touch me, so don't bother" and "your rules are not meant for me." These are typical behavior patterns of individuals who feel they are indispensable.
I believe the problem lies with the management, and Mandeep needs to concentrate on educating them about the effects of employee behavior (or misbehavior) on the organization.
@Mandeep - A piece of advice: Do not attempt to take any action against the web designer without the support of your management, which currently does not exist. We do not want you to end up in a situation where the individual goes to the management and you are reprimanded for the same. This would result in all your hard work becoming null because people will find out, and even those who follow your instructions will stop doing so.
Your problem is NOT the web designer but your management. They need to understand the power of HR, and only you can educate them. The good news is 99% of organizations in India face the same issue. The bad news is that despite all attempts, it still remains at 99%... :-) But that should not be a deterrent.
The fun in HR is that we are constantly trying to change, and change can be the most frustrating activity. The trick is to learn to enjoy the frustrations and have FUN doing it ;-)
If you need to talk to me about it, please feel free to contact me.
Cheers,
Navneet Chandra
[LinkedIn Profile: Navneet Chandra Kulshrestha - India](http://in.linkedin.com/in/navneetchandra)
From India, Delhi
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I think everyone is missing a point here. The Management knows of his indiscipline and has no problems with it or does not feel it warrants any action.
For Mandeep, unfortunately, this is her biggest problem. The issue is not the web designer. He is consistently displaying behavior that says "you cannot touch me, so don't bother" and "your rules are not meant for me." These are typical behavior patterns of individuals who feel they are indispensable.
I believe the problem lies with the management, and Mandeep needs to concentrate on educating them about the effects of employee behavior (or misbehavior) on the organization.
@Mandeep - A piece of advice: Do not attempt to take any action against the web designer without the support of your management, which currently does not exist. We do not want you to end up in a situation where the individual goes to the management and you are reprimanded for the same. This would result in all your hard work becoming null because people will find out, and even those who follow your instructions will stop doing so.
Your problem is NOT the web designer but your management. They need to understand the power of HR, and only you can educate them. The good news is 99% of organizations in India face the same issue. The bad news is that despite all attempts, it still remains at 99%... :-) But that should not be a deterrent.
The fun in HR is that we are constantly trying to change, and change can be the most frustrating activity. The trick is to learn to enjoy the frustrations and have FUN doing it ;-)
If you need to talk to me about it, please feel free to contact me.
Cheers,
Navneet Chandra
[LinkedIn Profile: Navneet Chandra Kulshrestha - India](http://in.linkedin.com/in/navneetchandra)
From India, Delhi
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Navneet, The days of HR acting as a ringmaster is over. we are not preachers either. thats where Employee assistance programme comes in.
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Hi Navneet Chandra,
Interesting reaction. :-) HR was never the ringmaster, and you should know that better than me since you are the HR specialist... :-)
There is also a huge difference between preaching and educating, which every HR professional is supposed to understand and appreciate.
Have you ever encountered an employee assistance program that has succeeded without the participation or buy-in from management? Forget about employee assistance; have you ever been able to introduce any policy without buy-in from management? I don't think so... HR without management buy-in does not exist! How do you bring management buy-in? You educate them...
The thing about learning that we tend to forget is that, like everything else in the world, it requires "two to tango" - one who should be willing to teach/train/preach/educate/share/impart/transfer (choose the term that makes you happy) and the other who is willing to learn/accept/absorb/improve. AND then a third who thinks all this makes sense (management)... :-)
Just my thoughts and many might differ... ;-)
Cheers,
Surya
From India, Delhi
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Interesting reaction. :-) HR was never the ringmaster, and you should know that better than me since you are the HR specialist... :-)
There is also a huge difference between preaching and educating, which every HR professional is supposed to understand and appreciate.
Have you ever encountered an employee assistance program that has succeeded without the participation or buy-in from management? Forget about employee assistance; have you ever been able to introduce any policy without buy-in from management? I don't think so... HR without management buy-in does not exist! How do you bring management buy-in? You educate them...
The thing about learning that we tend to forget is that, like everything else in the world, it requires "two to tango" - one who should be willing to teach/train/preach/educate/share/impart/transfer (choose the term that makes you happy) and the other who is willing to learn/accept/absorb/improve. AND then a third who thinks all this makes sense (management)... :-)
Just my thoughts and many might differ... ;-)
Cheers,
Surya
From India, Delhi
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Mandeep,
Unless he has self-realization, he wouldn't abide by the punctuality norms. No punishment would work in his case. The trick which would work here is to not take any disciplinary action or say anything to him for at least 1 to 2 months. It is possible that he would start thinking why isn't he been blamed, and that will give him space to act positively and follow the set norms.
Regards,
Sneha
From India
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Unless he has self-realization, he wouldn't abide by the punctuality norms. No punishment would work in his case. The trick which would work here is to not take any disciplinary action or say anything to him for at least 1 to 2 months. It is possible that he would start thinking why isn't he been blamed, and that will give him space to act positively and follow the set norms.
Regards,
Sneha
From India
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