Dear all,
Plz find a incident below.
IP details:
Name- Sh. ABC Employee, Age- 43 years , LPDT (Low Proficency Dumper truck)Operator, Experience-3 years
Location –315 mRL / near North Ramp Inset
Details of accident :
While operator was driving empty LPDT No.3 from surface to underground (315mRL), LPDT ran over a boulder near 315mRL north ramp junction due to which operator bounced on his seat and his head hit with the canopy. There was no external injury because of the helmet.
Root cause:
Failure in hazard identification..
Careless & unsafe driving.
Recommendations:
Driver should have stop the vehicle and inform the concerned person for cleaning the boulder from the passage.
Driver should not take adventurous activities.
It was suggested that seat belt could have saved the injury.
Kindly suggest how can we provide seat belts as the heavy vechiles dont have & suggest any vendor who can fix seat belts to existing vechiles.Or what can be done to provide seat belt in existing heavy vechlies.
Regards,
Hansa Vyas
From India, Udaipur
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223Plz find a incident below.
IP details:
Name- Sh. ABC Employee, Age- 43 years , LPDT (Low Proficency Dumper truck)Operator, Experience-3 years
Location –315 mRL / near North Ramp Inset
Details of accident :
While operator was driving empty LPDT No.3 from surface to underground (315mRL), LPDT ran over a boulder near 315mRL north ramp junction due to which operator bounced on his seat and his head hit with the canopy. There was no external injury because of the helmet.
Root cause:
Failure in hazard identification..
Careless & unsafe driving.
Recommendations:
Driver should have stop the vehicle and inform the concerned person for cleaning the boulder from the passage.
Driver should not take adventurous activities.
It was suggested that seat belt could have saved the injury.
Kindly suggest how can we provide seat belts as the heavy vechiles dont have & suggest any vendor who can fix seat belts to existing vechiles.Or what can be done to provide seat belt in existing heavy vechlies.
Regards,
Hansa Vyas
From India, Udaipur
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Hi Hansa,
I am not currently working in India; however, seat belts are mandatory for all heavy equipment in most countries. It is very important not to jump out of a vehicle when it rolls over.
Sam
From Azerbaijan, Baku
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I am not currently working in India; however, seat belts are mandatory for all heavy equipment in most countries. It is very important not to jump out of a vehicle when it rolls over.
Sam
From Azerbaijan, Baku
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Dear Hansa,
First of all thanks for sharing a incident with us. As per my knowledge we shouldn’t modify/alter anything without manufacturer advice it may cause severe injury i.e., seat belt, seat arrangements in car etc..,
What I suggest to you just write a mail to equipment manufacturer they will advice/suggest you it’s the easiest and safest way I ever followed.
Hope this information helps.
From United States, Fpo
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First of all thanks for sharing a incident with us. As per my knowledge we shouldn’t modify/alter anything without manufacturer advice it may cause severe injury i.e., seat belt, seat arrangements in car etc..,
What I suggest to you just write a mail to equipment manufacturer they will advice/suggest you it’s the easiest and safest way I ever followed.
Hope this information helps.
From United States, Fpo
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Dear Hansa,
As correctly stated by Raghu, you need to involve the vendors in this. The vendors will provide you with the authorized party details for their equipment.
It was a good sharing, and we can also share the same with our employees. Also, it appears that the driver was not sitting firmly on the seat as he had bounced from it. In the absence of a seat belt, I would suggest you provide more awareness to the drivers about their sitting posture and how to behave in case of any bounce. I trust this can raise some awareness.
In the other post, I read about the procurement policy for the vehicles. In our company, we sit, discuss, and provide our requirements to the procurement team. When the order is placed, the procurement team simply updates all the points mentioned by us in the purchase order and gives it to the vendor.
Thank you.
From India, Delhi
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As correctly stated by Raghu, you need to involve the vendors in this. The vendors will provide you with the authorized party details for their equipment.
It was a good sharing, and we can also share the same with our employees. Also, it appears that the driver was not sitting firmly on the seat as he had bounced from it. In the absence of a seat belt, I would suggest you provide more awareness to the drivers about their sitting posture and how to behave in case of any bounce. I trust this can raise some awareness.
In the other post, I read about the procurement policy for the vehicles. In our company, we sit, discuss, and provide our requirements to the procurement team. When the order is placed, the procurement team simply updates all the points mentioned by us in the purchase order and gives it to the vendor.
Thank you.
From India, Delhi
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Dear Hansa,
Good morning and thank you for sharing a valuable learning incident. Mr. Raghu has rightly suggested involving the vendor, and we have already taken this step. Please note that we have a corporate policy for the transportation of materials and for employees.
We are proud to mention that we are the first company in our area (Dahej, Gujarat) to have installed seat belts on every seat of vehicles such as Bus, Tavera, Forklift, Sumo, etc. It is encouraging to see that people are using them correctly. It is essential to have a corporate policy for vehicles in place.
This information is provided for your awareness and necessary action.
Regards,
Shailesh Mistry
Gujarat.
From India, Ahmadabad
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Good morning and thank you for sharing a valuable learning incident. Mr. Raghu has rightly suggested involving the vendor, and we have already taken this step. Please note that we have a corporate policy for the transportation of materials and for employees.
We are proud to mention that we are the first company in our area (Dahej, Gujarat) to have installed seat belts on every seat of vehicles such as Bus, Tavera, Forklift, Sumo, etc. It is encouraging to see that people are using them correctly. It is essential to have a corporate policy for vehicles in place.
This information is provided for your awareness and necessary action.
Regards,
Shailesh Mistry
Gujarat.
From India, Ahmadabad
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Dear All,
We were in the process of installing seat belts in Hydra (Mobile Crane). We contacted the manufacturer, and they just denied our request, saying they will not do it. They suggested that we may install them on our own in the internal workshop.
However, the best option is always to go through the manufacturer. But I do not think it's essential as it's not a significant technical issue. You have to ensure the services of a good maintenance engineer. That's it.
We install seat belts in Tractors, Back Seats of DI Mahindra Jeeps, Hydras, etc. In all these cases, you can't expect help from the manufacturer.
The purpose is to be solved in the right manner. I don't think providing seat belts will lead to a major issue. Let's think that if anything happens, the seat belt will save a life, instead of thinking that the seat belt will malfunction. Surely, contacting the manufacturer and having them come to install seat belts will take more time than going for localized solutions.
This is my view only. Individuals can adopt their practices as per site/location-specific rules.
Awaiting comments...
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We were in the process of installing seat belts in Hydra (Mobile Crane). We contacted the manufacturer, and they just denied our request, saying they will not do it. They suggested that we may install them on our own in the internal workshop.
However, the best option is always to go through the manufacturer. But I do not think it's essential as it's not a significant technical issue. You have to ensure the services of a good maintenance engineer. That's it.
We install seat belts in Tractors, Back Seats of DI Mahindra Jeeps, Hydras, etc. In all these cases, you can't expect help from the manufacturer.
The purpose is to be solved in the right manner. I don't think providing seat belts will lead to a major issue. Let's think that if anything happens, the seat belt will save a life, instead of thinking that the seat belt will malfunction. Surely, contacting the manufacturer and having them come to install seat belts will take more time than going for localized solutions.
This is my view only. Individuals can adopt their practices as per site/location-specific rules.
Awaiting comments...
From India
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Dear Dipil,
Thanks for your reply and also i was surprised on your reply. Manufacturer denied our request?? In some case manufacturer may not able to do (Install safety belt) because of company policy etc..,, But they should advise us or refer some vendors for install Safety Belts. In this time I want to highlight something ‘’One notable seat belt failure lawsuit resulted in a $6.5 million judgment against Ford Motor Co.’’
More than 8 million seat belts were implicated in the recall affecting Honda, Mazda, Nissan, Ford, Mitsubishi, Subaru, Isuzu, General Motors, Suzuki, Daihatsu, Geo, GM and Chrysler.(See the Attached).
What I suggest on this matter better we discuss with Manufacturer (Should be on mail) if they are not able to do or not suggest any vendors as far as its on mail its fine then we will fix our own. If something happens in future our law protect us and will help to get claim from manufacturer(As a safety professional I should not say this butttt…////).
Dear Hansa,
It’s my suggestion; now ball on your court you will decide don’t forget to update us very eager to know the result J!!!!
Again Thanks dipil!!!
Dear KVS & Shailesh,
Thanks for your inputs.
From United States, Fpo
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Thanks for your reply and also i was surprised on your reply. Manufacturer denied our request?? In some case manufacturer may not able to do (Install safety belt) because of company policy etc..,, But they should advise us or refer some vendors for install Safety Belts. In this time I want to highlight something ‘’One notable seat belt failure lawsuit resulted in a $6.5 million judgment against Ford Motor Co.’’
More than 8 million seat belts were implicated in the recall affecting Honda, Mazda, Nissan, Ford, Mitsubishi, Subaru, Isuzu, General Motors, Suzuki, Daihatsu, Geo, GM and Chrysler.(See the Attached).
What I suggest on this matter better we discuss with Manufacturer (Should be on mail) if they are not able to do or not suggest any vendors as far as its on mail its fine then we will fix our own. If something happens in future our law protect us and will help to get claim from manufacturer(As a safety professional I should not say this butttt…////).
Dear Hansa,
It’s my suggestion; now ball on your court you will decide don’t forget to update us very eager to know the result J!!!!
Again Thanks dipil!!!
Dear KVS & Shailesh,
Thanks for your inputs.
From United States, Fpo
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Dear Raghu I share what I experienced only... I am not denying your point... Let’s wait to hear what Hansa has finally done... Thanks for the attachment and sharing’s... Keep up the pace...
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Dear Mr. Sam,
Thanks for your participation in the thread and sharing your experience. I know of a case where a person's life was saved because the dumper operator was wearing a seat belt. The dumper overturned from a ramp 13 meters high and landed on the ground floor in a tire-up position. However, the operator escaped without even a scratch.
Keep on sharing and keep up the pace.
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Thanks for your participation in the thread and sharing your experience. I know of a case where a person's life was saved because the dumper operator was wearing a seat belt. The dumper overturned from a ramp 13 meters high and landed on the ground floor in a tire-up position. However, the operator escaped without even a scratch.
Keep on sharing and keep up the pace.
From India
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