Hi Nikhil,
It's a good question. I think many people will vote for me when I say that the key cause of corruption is greed. People are not happy to have a salary as their main income. They would like to stretch beyond their prudent limits. Therefore, they work for that extra unjust income. Actually, they do their duty for this unjust money. And this is bribery.
From India, Bangalore
It's a good question. I think many people will vote for me when I say that the key cause of corruption is greed. People are not happy to have a salary as their main income. They would like to stretch beyond their prudent limits. Therefore, they work for that extra unjust income. Actually, they do their duty for this unjust money. And this is bribery.
From India, Bangalore
So, increasing their salary will not help solve the problem?
I often feel that the first time someone does something wrong, it is driven by factors other than greed... Maybe I am wrong...
Interesting perspective here from you, KSR.
From United States, Daphne
I often feel that the first time someone does something wrong, it is driven by factors other than greed... Maybe I am wrong...
Interesting perspective here from you, KSR.
From United States, Daphne
The main key driver of corruption is the climate and atmosphere of offices. Being in government, I have seen many government offices where the head has made it strict for all employees not to accept corruption, and also many departments where it's a norm to accept a bribe for any work done. It also depends on the employee; they say bad habits catch easily. Every corrupt officer today was a good man yesterday. Circumstances, climate, and atmosphere made him corrupt.
I had one friend working in court where they used to share the collected bribe daily. He was a good man and did not like this. His thinking was, "I am getting paid for my work, so why do I need a bribe?" But they just used to give it to him. Another driver is the public; some deliberately give money to get their work done. They don't want to wait in a queue or for a process, so to bypass it, they catch someone and give a bribe.
In such situations, even the most honest officers either have to give in to temptation or are not able to survive in the market.
However, nowadays, there is more corruption in private companies in recruitment (taking money from consultant candidates), favoring their favorites in promotions, awarding contracts to vendors, and in the purchase section (using higher rates and then taking a commission), etc. This issue needs to be brought to the attention of the public, and a body needs to be established to punish corrupt individuals in the private sector.
The only solution that will work is full automation, fully recorded proceedings, clear procedures, and displaying them in all offices. Since most state governments have made online applications available for birth certificates, death certificates, and other amenities, corruption in these departments has drastically reduced.
From India, Madras
I had one friend working in court where they used to share the collected bribe daily. He was a good man and did not like this. His thinking was, "I am getting paid for my work, so why do I need a bribe?" But they just used to give it to him. Another driver is the public; some deliberately give money to get their work done. They don't want to wait in a queue or for a process, so to bypass it, they catch someone and give a bribe.
In such situations, even the most honest officers either have to give in to temptation or are not able to survive in the market.
However, nowadays, there is more corruption in private companies in recruitment (taking money from consultant candidates), favoring their favorites in promotions, awarding contracts to vendors, and in the purchase section (using higher rates and then taking a commission), etc. This issue needs to be brought to the attention of the public, and a body needs to be established to punish corrupt individuals in the private sector.
The only solution that will work is full automation, fully recorded proceedings, clear procedures, and displaying them in all offices. Since most state governments have made online applications available for birth certificates, death certificates, and other amenities, corruption in these departments has drastically reduced.
From India, Madras
Ravi, good points. But let me express my opinion. Bribery is more prevalent in government departments because of one reason. Nobody can punish anybody for taking bribes, due to strong unions, weak bosses, and systems. However, in private organizations, as you mentioned, HR managers taking bribes from colleges and students; the moment it is known, the culprit is out, and he is not given a job anywhere. Prime examples are in IT, such as Satyam, Wipro, or any similar company.
The other point you raised is about the public. Even if there are individuals who want their tasks done for a few bucks, if the recipient is firm in their values, they will not succumb to bribery. This is about the value system, and it is the only way to combat corruption. There is no need for Anna's. That energy can be better utilized.
From India, Bangalore
The other point you raised is about the public. Even if there are individuals who want their tasks done for a few bucks, if the recipient is firm in their values, they will not succumb to bribery. This is about the value system, and it is the only way to combat corruption. There is no need for Anna's. That energy can be better utilized.
From India, Bangalore
Good inputs, and this is a worthy topic to discuss.
In my opinion, the drive for corruption starts from people's wrong actions. We perform a wrong and defend it with a bribe. A fine example: We cross the road when the signal is red and pay the cop a bribe. We deviate in many things and pay a bribe. Many more instances can be added.
Wrong actions lead to corruption. All follows from this. We may not all agree with this theory, but this is the truth.
Thank you all for the nice sharing.
Regards,
AVS
From India, Madras
In my opinion, the drive for corruption starts from people's wrong actions. We perform a wrong and defend it with a bribe. A fine example: We cross the road when the signal is red and pay the cop a bribe. We deviate in many things and pay a bribe. Many more instances can be added.
Wrong actions lead to corruption. All follows from this. We may not all agree with this theory, but this is the truth.
Thank you all for the nice sharing.
Regards,
AVS
From India, Madras
Hi All,
For the benefit and comfort of "I" and "me," corruption starts. For example, I cannot stand in a long queue or I cannot sit in a hot cabin. It is not by any fault of "I" and "me" - so why pay extra in many more such cases in normal daily life?
Regards,
Shirish
From India, Hyderabad
For the benefit and comfort of "I" and "me," corruption starts. For example, I cannot stand in a long queue or I cannot sit in a hot cabin. It is not by any fault of "I" and "me" - so why pay extra in many more such cases in normal daily life?
Regards,
Shirish
From India, Hyderabad
The reasons for corruption are multifaceted, depending on whether we consider the giver's perspective or the taker's. There won't be any corruption if there are no takers and/or givers. For a detailed coverage of the causes of corruption, please see http://info.worldbank.org/etools/doc...5971/mod04.pdf. Also, see http://www.rediff.com/news/report/ag...e/20110829.htm for reasons given for taking bribes by the Police in Agra.
Have a lovely day.
Simhan
Learning & Teaching Fellow (Retd)
The University of Bolton, UK.
From United Kingdom
Have a lovely day.
Simhan
Learning & Teaching Fellow (Retd)
The University of Bolton, UK.
From United Kingdom
Absence of any kind of threat, either moral or physical, and a total lack of accountability in jobs, I think is the root cause of corruption. This can be fought through the installation of loophole-proof systems, fixing performance deadlines, ensuring accountability at the caseworker level, and broad-level legislation can bring about drastic changes and largely eliminate corruption. This has happened in the case of driving licenses, transfer of ownership of vehicles in RTO offices in Karnataka.
V. Dwarakanath
Management Consultant
Bangalore
From India, Bangalore
V. Dwarakanath
Management Consultant
Bangalore
From India, Bangalore
I like THAT - ". . . if the taker is strong in his values. . . "
In this 'context', please let me express some thoughts I have (which I put in 'another Thread'):
It’s High-Time for INTROSPECTION !
What is CORRUPTION ?
CASH/KIND exchanged for some FAVOR (‘exchange’ is used to mean ‘given’ or ‘taken’ - as, CORRUNPTION is a two-way-street’ !)
Hindi Dictionary gives the meaning for Corruption/Corrupt as :
saDana, bigADa, vyabhichAra, doShaNa, bhrashtaachaar, bhrashtatha, khoTApana, ghUsa, etc.
I have - MY OWN – ‘all-encompassing/broader definition/meaning’ :
“DOING or INDULGING-in dishonest/deceitful/wasteful/un-fair ACTS/ACTIONS which create LOSS/DAMAGE/DEPRIVATION/DIS-CONTENT/SADNESS ETC., to ANYONE – Individual, Family, Friends, Society, Employer, Employee, Customer, Supplier, Organization, Country, etc., etc. – in ANY MANNER”
Simply stated, CORRUPTION is ‘ACT/ACTION SANS INTEGRITY’ !
Anna Hazare said, – on Aug. 28, 2011 – to the effect :
“It is NOT ENOUGH if you wear-ANNA-cap. YOU must follow‘ clean principles too’ !”
I’m sure he referred to VICHAR (Thoughts/thinking),
ACHAR (Actions/deeds), VYAVAHAR (Communication/Dealings)
No amount of 'external controls' will/can curb CORRUPTION. What needs to be 'generated' in the 'personnel/employees - top-to-bottom' is genuine INTROSPECTION. Concerted efforts of HRM can bring about 'Sense-of-Values' (of what Mr. Rao speaks) in Corporate Sectors and Government Departments. I'm sure the "CiteHR FORUMS" have INNUMERABLE PERSONAGES - who could/should be "AMBASSADORS-TO-DRIVE-OUT-CORRUPTION' - at least for the next-breed to be CORRUPTION-FREE !! "TRAINERS & CONSULTANTS too can/should do 'their bit' in this 'thrust'
Give the "Good Man POWER" and the "Mighty - the WILL"!
‘INTROSPECTION’ is all about ASKING/TELLING ONESELF – with CONVICTION & CONFIDENCE & COURAGE – the following :
· I HAVE UNDERSTOOD the broader meaning of ‘Corruption’
· I have the ‘courage’ to ask myself ‘Am I Corrupt’ ?’
· I am NOT Corrupt
· I say “NO” when someone tries to Corrupt me
· I WILL tell others “DO NOT be Corrupt” & DO NOT ‘Corrupt’
· I WILL correct myself – IF I am ‘Corrupt’.
Let us not wait for Legislation/Policing ! Let's DO IT OURSELVES - each one HIS BIT ! Anna Hazares won't be needed to 'fast or faint' on OUR DOMESTIC ISSUES in OUR AREAS OF FUNCTIONING !
Is there HOPE for Individuals in ‘CORPORATE SECTOR’ and so the ‘CORPORATE SECTOR’ to become CORRUPTION-FREE ? (Same goes for Government Departments too)!
From India, Pune
In this 'context', please let me express some thoughts I have (which I put in 'another Thread'):
It’s High-Time for INTROSPECTION !
What is CORRUPTION ?
CASH/KIND exchanged for some FAVOR (‘exchange’ is used to mean ‘given’ or ‘taken’ - as, CORRUNPTION is a two-way-street’ !)
Hindi Dictionary gives the meaning for Corruption/Corrupt as :
saDana, bigADa, vyabhichAra, doShaNa, bhrashtaachaar, bhrashtatha, khoTApana, ghUsa, etc.
I have - MY OWN – ‘all-encompassing/broader definition/meaning’ :
“DOING or INDULGING-in dishonest/deceitful/wasteful/un-fair ACTS/ACTIONS which create LOSS/DAMAGE/DEPRIVATION/DIS-CONTENT/SADNESS ETC., to ANYONE – Individual, Family, Friends, Society, Employer, Employee, Customer, Supplier, Organization, Country, etc., etc. – in ANY MANNER”
Simply stated, CORRUPTION is ‘ACT/ACTION SANS INTEGRITY’ !
Anna Hazare said, – on Aug. 28, 2011 – to the effect :
“It is NOT ENOUGH if you wear-ANNA-cap. YOU must follow‘ clean principles too’ !”
I’m sure he referred to VICHAR (Thoughts/thinking),
ACHAR (Actions/deeds), VYAVAHAR (Communication/Dealings)
No amount of 'external controls' will/can curb CORRUPTION. What needs to be 'generated' in the 'personnel/employees - top-to-bottom' is genuine INTROSPECTION. Concerted efforts of HRM can bring about 'Sense-of-Values' (of what Mr. Rao speaks) in Corporate Sectors and Government Departments. I'm sure the "CiteHR FORUMS" have INNUMERABLE PERSONAGES - who could/should be "AMBASSADORS-TO-DRIVE-OUT-CORRUPTION' - at least for the next-breed to be CORRUPTION-FREE !! "TRAINERS & CONSULTANTS too can/should do 'their bit' in this 'thrust'
Give the "Good Man POWER" and the "Mighty - the WILL"!
‘INTROSPECTION’ is all about ASKING/TELLING ONESELF – with CONVICTION & CONFIDENCE & COURAGE – the following :
· I HAVE UNDERSTOOD the broader meaning of ‘Corruption’
· I have the ‘courage’ to ask myself ‘Am I Corrupt’ ?’
· I am NOT Corrupt
· I say “NO” when someone tries to Corrupt me
· I WILL tell others “DO NOT be Corrupt” & DO NOT ‘Corrupt’
· I WILL correct myself – IF I am ‘Corrupt’.
Let us not wait for Legislation/Policing ! Let's DO IT OURSELVES - each one HIS BIT ! Anna Hazares won't be needed to 'fast or faint' on OUR DOMESTIC ISSUES in OUR AREAS OF FUNCTIONING !
Is there HOPE for Individuals in ‘CORPORATE SECTOR’ and so the ‘CORPORATE SECTOR’ to become CORRUPTION-FREE ? (Same goes for Government Departments too)!
From India, Pune
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