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I am from India. I am working in an IT company for 2 months and have signed an agreement, i.e., a bond of 75000/-. The bond states that I will receive training for three months, but we haven't received any training, and the company is not providing good services. I have only signed an agreement stating that I will receive three months of training but have not signed any document confirming the completion of any training. I do not want to jeopardize my career, especially since they have not provided me with an appointment letter. Can I resign and leave smoothly without compensation? Please help me out; I am in big trouble.
From India, Mumbai
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I am from India. I am working in an IT company for 2 months and have signed an agreement, i.e., a bond of 75000/-. The bond states that I will receive training for three months, but we haven't received any training, and the company is not providing good services. I have only signed an agreement stating that I will receive three months of training but have not signed any document confirming the completion of any training. I do not want to jeopardize my career, especially since they have not provided me with an appointment letter. Can I resign and leave smoothly without compensation? Please help me out; I am in big trouble.
From India, Mumbai
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Hello,
Have you signed an "agreement" for training?
Does this agreement provide that you must work with the company for a stipulated minimum period and if so, on what terms and conditions? Within what period, after you joined the company, is the company obliged to impart "training"?
What kind of "training" is it supposed to be? I mean, with an external agency or would it be conducted by the company itself? What would be the duration of the training? Will it comprise "classroom sessions for theory inputs and hands-on practical training" or just the so-called "on-the-job training"?
For you to receive proper advice, answers to these and such questions will be necessary.
Subject to the above and in principle, I state that:
1. All agreements that are "one-sided", "unfair", or against the law of the land are vulnerable and can be questioned, and perhaps one can even win against such contracts.
2. Contesting agreements, especially after one has signed, the reasons have to be rather sound.
3. But that is not the issue! Considerable caution has to be exercised BEFORE one commits to an organization through an agreement! Challenging an agreement after signing it, performing it, and questioning it may sound innocent and logically correct, but the cost of the contest and even of victory could be substantial in terms of money, reputation in the employment market, and psychologically. If one is willing to undertake such costs, then subject to deeper study of all concerned documents and consultation with competent practitioners of law handling such matters, only a decision may be taken.
One often finds that what cannot be cured has to be endured. I am NOT commenting on your situation, please.
Regards,
Samvedan
June 15, 2011
Hello, I am from India. I am working in an IT company for 2 months and have signed an agreement, i.e., a bond of 75000/-. The bond states that I will get training for three months, but we haven't received any training, and the company is not providing us with good services. I have only signed an agreement where it's stated that I will get three months of training. But I haven't signed any document stating that we have completed any training. So, I don't want to ruin my career, and they also haven't provided me with an appointment letter. Can I resign and leave smoothly without compensation? Please help me out. I am in big trouble.
From India, Pune
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335Have you signed an "agreement" for training?
Does this agreement provide that you must work with the company for a stipulated minimum period and if so, on what terms and conditions? Within what period, after you joined the company, is the company obliged to impart "training"?
What kind of "training" is it supposed to be? I mean, with an external agency or would it be conducted by the company itself? What would be the duration of the training? Will it comprise "classroom sessions for theory inputs and hands-on practical training" or just the so-called "on-the-job training"?
For you to receive proper advice, answers to these and such questions will be necessary.
Subject to the above and in principle, I state that:
1. All agreements that are "one-sided", "unfair", or against the law of the land are vulnerable and can be questioned, and perhaps one can even win against such contracts.
2. Contesting agreements, especially after one has signed, the reasons have to be rather sound.
3. But that is not the issue! Considerable caution has to be exercised BEFORE one commits to an organization through an agreement! Challenging an agreement after signing it, performing it, and questioning it may sound innocent and logically correct, but the cost of the contest and even of victory could be substantial in terms of money, reputation in the employment market, and psychologically. If one is willing to undertake such costs, then subject to deeper study of all concerned documents and consultation with competent practitioners of law handling such matters, only a decision may be taken.
One often finds that what cannot be cured has to be endured. I am NOT commenting on your situation, please.
Regards,
Samvedan
June 15, 2011
Hello, I am from India. I am working in an IT company for 2 months and have signed an agreement, i.e., a bond of 75000/-. The bond states that I will get training for three months, but we haven't received any training, and the company is not providing us with good services. I have only signed an agreement where it's stated that I will get three months of training. But I haven't signed any document stating that we have completed any training. So, I don't want to ruin my career, and they also haven't provided me with an appointment letter. Can I resign and leave smoothly without compensation? Please help me out. I am in big trouble.
From India, Pune
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Hello Natalipoul,
Apart from the wonderful insights of Mr. Samvedan, I would just like to share that we have discussed somewhat similar cases in these links. Just go through them; I'm sure you will be able to decide the future course of action for yourself based on judgments and court rulings.
- [Restricting joining competitor](https://www.citehr.com/343871-restricting-joining-competitor.html)
- [Breach of training contract service bond of employment](https://www.citehr.com/232304-breach-training-contract-service-bond-employment.html)
Hope it will assist you. :)
All the best
From India, Delhi
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Apart from the wonderful insights of Mr. Samvedan, I would just like to share that we have discussed somewhat similar cases in these links. Just go through them; I'm sure you will be able to decide the future course of action for yourself based on judgments and court rulings.
- [Restricting joining competitor](https://www.citehr.com/343871-restricting-joining-competitor.html)
- [Breach of training contract service bond of employment](https://www.citehr.com/232304-breach-training-contract-service-bond-employment.html)
Hope it will assist you. :)
All the best
From India, Delhi
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Hello Natalipoul,
Apart from the queries Samvedan raised, for you to answer or clarify, please also confirm if you joined this company as a Fresher. Archna's pointers or links should help you make a well-informed decision. If you have any specific queries, please clearly mention the background of those queries so that the suggestions can be as accurate as possible.
As the standard quote goes, "If you want the right answer, you have to ask the right question."
Regards,
TS
From India, Hyderabad
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Apart from the queries Samvedan raised, for you to answer or clarify, please also confirm if you joined this company as a Fresher. Archna's pointers or links should help you make a well-informed decision. If you have any specific queries, please clearly mention the background of those queries so that the suggestions can be as accurate as possible.
As the standard quote goes, "If you want the right answer, you have to ask the right question."
Regards,
TS
From India, Hyderabad
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Hi,
It's an employee business commitment cum appointment agreement. It states that I have to undergo 3 months of training, but I am not a fresher. I have only signed that agreement and not any training document indicating that I am undergoing any special training from joining or upon completion of training.
Please help me out.
From India, Mumbai
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It's an employee business commitment cum appointment agreement. It states that I have to undergo 3 months of training, but I am not a fresher. I have only signed that agreement and not any training document indicating that I am undergoing any special training from joining or upon completion of training.
Please help me out.
From India, Mumbai
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Not very clear, Natalipoul. Are you a software developer? If not, what's your function? And what was the training all about - technical or any skills-enhancement training or management-related one? You also mentioned: "I am in big trouble...." Can you please elaborate on it? You also mentioned: "....and the company is not providing us good services." Please elaborate on this aspect too. The more detailed inputs you give, the more accurate and realistic the suggestions will be.
Regards,
TS
From India, Hyderabad
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TS
From India, Hyderabad
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I am an SEO, and the company has signed two agreements because it's changing to another name. Both documents have the same duration and dates for both names of the company. I am worried if the company seeks compensation for both agreements, which is entirely illegal. What should I do in this situation? How can one person sign two agreements for two different names with the same date and duration? I also have Xerox copies with me.
From India, Mumbai
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Also, they have provided me with an offer letter with one name, which will be the new company name, and an employee ID of the previous company name. However, they have still not given me proper and final documents. I have not received any documents from them, such as an appointment letter or special SEO training document. I have already wasted two months working here, and now I am feeling insecure. Please suggest something. If I leave before three months, the training duration will be incomplete. What is the legal procedure for resigning if I need to keep it as proof?
From India, Mumbai
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Hello,
So far, so good!
When we talk about "agreements," "contracts," "commitments," "identities," it is better to scrutinize the documents.
If you need help, at the minimum, I would ask you to provide a "position paper" on this issue. Include citations of important parts of the related documents and raise specific questions. This will help us take a comprehensive view and advise you competently.
Better still would be for you to prepare such a document and locally consult a senior HR practitioner (if you trust him/her) or a lawyer who handles employment issues!
Acting or suffering without proper competent advice is not right for you.
Consider and respond!
Regards,
Samvedan
June 20, 2011
Also, they have provided me an offer letter with one name, which will be the new company name, and an employee ID of the previous company name. However, they have not given proper and final documents yet. I still have not received any documents from them, such as an appointment letter or special SEO training document. I have already wasted two months working here, and now I am feeling insecure. Please suggest something. If I leave before three months, the training duration will be incomplete. What is the legal procedure for resigning if I need to keep it as proof?
From India, Pune
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So far, so good!
When we talk about "agreements," "contracts," "commitments," "identities," it is better to scrutinize the documents.
If you need help, at the minimum, I would ask you to provide a "position paper" on this issue. Include citations of important parts of the related documents and raise specific questions. This will help us take a comprehensive view and advise you competently.
Better still would be for you to prepare such a document and locally consult a senior HR practitioner (if you trust him/her) or a lawyer who handles employment issues!
Acting or suffering without proper competent advice is not right for you.
Consider and respond!
Regards,
Samvedan
June 20, 2011
Also, they have provided me an offer letter with one name, which will be the new company name, and an employee ID of the previous company name. However, they have not given proper and final documents yet. I still have not received any documents from them, such as an appointment letter or special SEO training document. I have already wasted two months working here, and now I am feeling insecure. Please suggest something. If I leave before three months, the training duration will be incomplete. What is the legal procedure for resigning if I need to keep it as proof?
From India, Pune
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