Dear Members,
I have observed that the standard/quality of communication in citehr is deteriorating day by day. Certain Threads/Posts are filled with a lot of grammar mistakes, and it's really hard to understand the real issue raised by an answer-seeking member. The content is not even read twice before the same is being finally posted. Cite HR has even provided a Spell Check facility in the Message Editor; in spite of which, a lot of mistakes are committed.
HR professionals are expected to be the catalysts in a company, who should be precise, clear, and sharp in various mediums of communication. Don't you think it's time for the moderators to intervene and raise the bar/level of communication in this forum by timely interventions? Inviting comments on the same.
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34I have observed that the standard/quality of communication in citehr is deteriorating day by day. Certain Threads/Posts are filled with a lot of grammar mistakes, and it's really hard to understand the real issue raised by an answer-seeking member. The content is not even read twice before the same is being finally posted. Cite HR has even provided a Spell Check facility in the Message Editor; in spite of which, a lot of mistakes are committed.
HR professionals are expected to be the catalysts in a company, who should be precise, clear, and sharp in various mediums of communication. Don't you think it's time for the moderators to intervene and raise the bar/level of communication in this forum by timely interventions? Inviting comments on the same.
From India, Mumbai
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Dear Mr. Sriram,
I fully agree with you, but we should also consider that most of the members in this forum are either recent graduates or are still in college. I believe it is our responsibility to educate them when they make mistakes.
I hope I have made myself clear to you.
With kind regards,
Harini
From India, Madras
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I fully agree with you, but we should also consider that most of the members in this forum are either recent graduates or are still in college. I believe it is our responsibility to educate them when they make mistakes.
I hope I have made myself clear to you.
With kind regards,
Harini
From India, Madras
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Dear Sriram,
First and foremost, a big thank you for initiating this thread. We all agree that we came to this community to groom ourselves professionally. Hence, what we write and how we present our thoughts show our interest towards self-development.
We have been requesting members repeatedly not to use SMS language and post requests in complete sentences. Sometimes, it's beyond grammar, and we can't understand what is meant. Consequently, we miss reverting to the post. I have received repeated requests and complaints on this. A bad presentation drives seniors and serious readers away from replying.
The internet is an open platform. The mistake that is made today will stay forever. This makes it essential that we think twice before we present ourselves and make necessary preparations.
There are leaders in this community who would not have been within our reach. Mr. Narashimhan had co-authored a book with Hubert Rampersad. Samvedan is a sounding board to many CEOs. They are just a few to name, and there are many more. The more I get to know, the more it humbles me. I realize how important it is to maintain the standard that would meet these great leaders' expectations. Generating value through whatever we do carves our place on this earth. A minor mistake such as incorrect sentence formation or our own eagerness to appear casual can undo it all.
Establishing standards would create a lot more takeaways for the one who accepts it. This can be realized only when someone invests in learning and developing themselves.
Once again, I thank you for this initiative. I am following this thread and will wait to read the point of view.
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First and foremost, a big thank you for initiating this thread. We all agree that we came to this community to groom ourselves professionally. Hence, what we write and how we present our thoughts show our interest towards self-development.
We have been requesting members repeatedly not to use SMS language and post requests in complete sentences. Sometimes, it's beyond grammar, and we can't understand what is meant. Consequently, we miss reverting to the post. I have received repeated requests and complaints on this. A bad presentation drives seniors and serious readers away from replying.
The internet is an open platform. The mistake that is made today will stay forever. This makes it essential that we think twice before we present ourselves and make necessary preparations.
There are leaders in this community who would not have been within our reach. Mr. Narashimhan had co-authored a book with Hubert Rampersad. Samvedan is a sounding board to many CEOs. They are just a few to name, and there are many more. The more I get to know, the more it humbles me. I realize how important it is to maintain the standard that would meet these great leaders' expectations. Generating value through whatever we do carves our place on this earth. A minor mistake such as incorrect sentence formation or our own eagerness to appear casual can undo it all.
Establishing standards would create a lot more takeaways for the one who accepts it. This can be realized only when someone invests in learning and developing themselves.
Once again, I thank you for this initiative. I am following this thread and will wait to read the point of view.
Regards,
(Cite Contribution)
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Hello Sriram,
I agree with (Cite Contribution) that it's good that you have highlighted this aspect. While it's necessary and realistic to expect the members doing the Postings to improve their written communication skills, I only hope they realize that in the long run, they benefit more than this Forum. I think CiteHR itself needs to fix or modify some ground rules.
Why not embed some rules into the Message Posting Form in CiteHR that will prevent the posting if there are spelling mistakes, grammar errors, SMS language, etc.? There are many sites that show asterisks where the fields are mandatory; if such fields aren't filled in, then the form isn't accepted. Maybe CiteHR can adopt a similar practice. Instead of asterisks, CiteHR can track specific categories of faults or mistakes to stop the posting from going through unless corrected.
Food for thought. Any comments?
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TS
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I agree with (Cite Contribution) that it's good that you have highlighted this aspect. While it's necessary and realistic to expect the members doing the Postings to improve their written communication skills, I only hope they realize that in the long run, they benefit more than this Forum. I think CiteHR itself needs to fix or modify some ground rules.
Why not embed some rules into the Message Posting Form in CiteHR that will prevent the posting if there are spelling mistakes, grammar errors, SMS language, etc.? There are many sites that show asterisks where the fields are mandatory; if such fields aren't filled in, then the form isn't accepted. Maybe CiteHR can adopt a similar practice. Instead of asterisks, CiteHR can track specific categories of faults or mistakes to stop the posting from going through unless corrected.
Food for thought. Any comments?
Regards,
TS
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Hi,
While I agree with Sriram, I really do not think the moderators can keep proofreading all the time. In any case, there are a number of youngsters who have serious limitations in the English language when attempting to express themselves, so there are bound to be a lot of mistakes in their inputs.
However, that is no excuse for casual questioning and for students trying to get ready-made solutions. The use of SMS language is another issue that plagues this forum. In my view, to curb this, we must educate the more serious Citehr users to respond only to those serious questions that are well-framed and require expert guidance. This should act as a deterrent, particularly for those students who try to get ready-made answers to assignments.
Ignoring poorly drafted questions, casually sought explanations, and queries that are in the nature of using the forum as a shortcut to assignment answers would definitely act as a good filter to ensure a better quality of queries, and well-drafted inputs become the order of the day.
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While I agree with Sriram, I really do not think the moderators can keep proofreading all the time. In any case, there are a number of youngsters who have serious limitations in the English language when attempting to express themselves, so there are bound to be a lot of mistakes in their inputs.
However, that is no excuse for casual questioning and for students trying to get ready-made solutions. The use of SMS language is another issue that plagues this forum. In my view, to curb this, we must educate the more serious Citehr users to respond only to those serious questions that are well-framed and require expert guidance. This should act as a deterrent, particularly for those students who try to get ready-made answers to assignments.
Ignoring poorly drafted questions, casually sought explanations, and queries that are in the nature of using the forum as a shortcut to assignment answers would definitely act as a good filter to ensure a better quality of queries, and well-drafted inputs become the order of the day.
Regards
From India, Mumbai
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Dear Sriram,
As mentioned by Mr. Jacob and (Cite Contribution), it is not pleasant to see such grammatical and spelling mistakes in the threads. Some people are using chat language and SMS language, which should be avoided. In SMS, there are restrictions on the number of letters, so it is acceptable in that context. In chat, quick replies are sought, hence the use of shortcut words and spelling errors may be accepted. For example, "See You" as "C U" or "am" as "M" may not be easily understood by everyone.
Thank you, Mr. Sriram, for initiating such a useful thread that will alert at least some people to correct themselves. I am not suggesting that everyone posting here is fully conversant with the language. However, the purpose of language is to convey queries and feelings to others in the correct sense. In some cases, this fails, and the replies may take on a different nature. To avoid such a situation, grammatical and spelling mistakes should be minimized.
With warm regards,
S. Bhaskar
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As mentioned by Mr. Jacob and (Cite Contribution), it is not pleasant to see such grammatical and spelling mistakes in the threads. Some people are using chat language and SMS language, which should be avoided. In SMS, there are restrictions on the number of letters, so it is acceptable in that context. In chat, quick replies are sought, hence the use of shortcut words and spelling errors may be accepted. For example, "See You" as "C U" or "am" as "M" may not be easily understood by everyone.
Thank you, Mr. Sriram, for initiating such a useful thread that will alert at least some people to correct themselves. I am not suggesting that everyone posting here is fully conversant with the language. However, the purpose of language is to convey queries and feelings to others in the correct sense. In some cases, this fails, and the replies may take on a different nature. To avoid such a situation, grammatical and spelling mistakes should be minimized.
With warm regards,
S. Bhaskar
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Hi All,
I respectfully disagree with you all regarding spelling and grammar mistakes made by members of the forum. Some members may not be very proficient in the English language, but that does not mean we should ignore their queries or question their authenticity.
While it is true that there are many distinguished leaders in various fields here, it does not imply that individuals with a background in Hindi medium education or similar backgrounds are prohibited from posting their queries. Proficiency in the English language should not be the sole criterion for evaluating the knowledge of individuals on this forum. I am aware of several active and popular members whose written communication skills are not particularly strong.
I do agree that the use of SMS language or chat language should be discouraged, and I believe that with our intervention, we can help regulate such practices.
This platform is intended for learning, and there are no restrictions on the learning process. If anyone needs assistance in improving their written skills, let us support them.
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Archna
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I respectfully disagree with you all regarding spelling and grammar mistakes made by members of the forum. Some members may not be very proficient in the English language, but that does not mean we should ignore their queries or question their authenticity.
While it is true that there are many distinguished leaders in various fields here, it does not imply that individuals with a background in Hindi medium education or similar backgrounds are prohibited from posting their queries. Proficiency in the English language should not be the sole criterion for evaluating the knowledge of individuals on this forum. I am aware of several active and popular members whose written communication skills are not particularly strong.
I do agree that the use of SMS language or chat language should be discouraged, and I believe that with our intervention, we can help regulate such practices.
This platform is intended for learning, and there are no restrictions on the learning process. If anyone needs assistance in improving their written skills, let us support them.
Regards,
Archna
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Hello Everyone,
It appears that the main point is getting diverted.
As I mentioned in my earlier post, let not the complete onus of using/learning the right language be solely on the members of this forum. Archna has provided valid reasons why this expectation is unreasonable and impractical.
The forum also needs to do its part by adopting measures that will not only enhance the overall capacity of the members to improve and learn through the forum itself. This is why I suggested that "CiteHR can track specific categories of faults/mistakes to prevent the posting from going through unless corrected."
In fact, this is not very difficult or unrealistic. CiteHR already has the Spellchecker in place. From a software developer's point of view, the SpellChecker is currently programmed only to alert about spelling mistakes, leaving the correction to the individual typing the message. Minor modifications can be made to ensure that the posting is blocked unless the mistakes are corrected. The extent to which and which mistakes should be allowed or corrected may need to be decided, taking into consideration the various profiles of the members, as Archna mentioned.
In this context, I agree with her. Please see the following recent thread where many reasons are given by professionals as to why CiteHR is so liked by them: https://www.citehr.com/308070-citehr-best.html
Apart from the quality of responses they receive, another factor is that they get responses without any link to their current standing or position.
As seniors, I believe it is our role to guide others without condoning their lapses or mistakes, while also ensuring a method/avenue is provided for them to correct themselves. In a way, CiteHR could evolve as a forum that indirectly contributes to the wholesome improvement of the skills of such individuals while maintaining the overall caliber and standards of this forum.
I agree with B. Jacob that the moderators cannot keep proofreading all the time. This is where I thought incorporating means to handle such issues into the posting software would be beneficial, even before B. Jacob posted his reply, as it is humanly impractical for anyone to continually correct others' language issues. I believe the moderators have better things to do. Automating this aspect can be helpful since we live in a world surrounded by computers; why not utilize them more effectively for everyone's benefit?
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TS
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It appears that the main point is getting diverted.
As I mentioned in my earlier post, let not the complete onus of using/learning the right language be solely on the members of this forum. Archna has provided valid reasons why this expectation is unreasonable and impractical.
The forum also needs to do its part by adopting measures that will not only enhance the overall capacity of the members to improve and learn through the forum itself. This is why I suggested that "CiteHR can track specific categories of faults/mistakes to prevent the posting from going through unless corrected."
In fact, this is not very difficult or unrealistic. CiteHR already has the Spellchecker in place. From a software developer's point of view, the SpellChecker is currently programmed only to alert about spelling mistakes, leaving the correction to the individual typing the message. Minor modifications can be made to ensure that the posting is blocked unless the mistakes are corrected. The extent to which and which mistakes should be allowed or corrected may need to be decided, taking into consideration the various profiles of the members, as Archna mentioned.
In this context, I agree with her. Please see the following recent thread where many reasons are given by professionals as to why CiteHR is so liked by them: https://www.citehr.com/308070-citehr-best.html
Apart from the quality of responses they receive, another factor is that they get responses without any link to their current standing or position.
As seniors, I believe it is our role to guide others without condoning their lapses or mistakes, while also ensuring a method/avenue is provided for them to correct themselves. In a way, CiteHR could evolve as a forum that indirectly contributes to the wholesome improvement of the skills of such individuals while maintaining the overall caliber and standards of this forum.
I agree with B. Jacob that the moderators cannot keep proofreading all the time. This is where I thought incorporating means to handle such issues into the posting software would be beneficial, even before B. Jacob posted his reply, as it is humanly impractical for anyone to continually correct others' language issues. I believe the moderators have better things to do. Automating this aspect can be helpful since we live in a world surrounded by computers; why not utilize them more effectively for everyone's benefit?
Regards,
TS
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Dear all,
I am not sure whether we should be discussing this point in the general forum. It has been considered by Moderators and the Senior Members' Group. Even contributors to the discussion in this thread have used SMS language; I think it has become a habit with some. Grammar and spelling mistakes or some typos can be ignored if the query makes sense. However, posts such as those at https://www.citehr.com/274413-work-l...tionnaire.html are most annoying.
Have a nice day.
Simhan
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I am not sure whether we should be discussing this point in the general forum. It has been considered by Moderators and the Senior Members' Group. Even contributors to the discussion in this thread have used SMS language; I think it has become a habit with some. Grammar and spelling mistakes or some typos can be ignored if the query makes sense. However, posts such as those at https://www.citehr.com/274413-work-l...tionnaire.html are most annoying.
Have a nice day.
Simhan
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Dear All,
Thank you for such wonderful feedback and thoughts on this issue.
I agree with Ms. Harini on the point that most of the members are "either immediate graduates or yet to graduate from college". In this era, where English is taught even at the elementary level, a person who is in college or has graduated is expected to be conversant in English and should be able to communicate effectively, without grammar mistakes. It's really shocking to see members posting threads with not even a grammatically correct sentence. Seniors can only point out the mistakes and guide them to learn and correct the language. Ultimately, the change should come from within and aim for improvement.
Mr. T Satheesh has raised a very tricky question to the moderators, whether to implement a rule regarding the posting of incorrect threads. I would appreciate such an initiative by Citehr, but it should in no way hinder the "learning experience" of this forum. No member should leave or ignore this forum due to the complexity it might involve when such rules are implemented. A process where all incorrect postings are displayed in the forum after being checked or corrected by senior members or moderators should be adopted. This will ensure that a member's query is addressed in the best possible manner. (This can be either a manual process or an automated one as suggested by Mr. TS)
Ms. Archana presented a different perspective on this issue. I would definitely agree with her point that language should not be a hindrance in expressing oneself and not a parameter to judge knowledge. However, given the circumstances of this forum, which is essentially one of the most sought-after HR blogs, it should maintain minimum standards in the usage of the English language. An idea is ideal only when the possessor expresses it clearly and effectively to the people.
As clearly indicated by Ms. (Cite Contribution), "Absence of intent to put in effort" is the most serious issue to be addressed within. Unless and until members decide to change, this issue will continue to haunt this forum. Let's hope that what we have discussed in this thread will be an eye-opener for everyone.
Thanks
From India, Mumbai
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Thank you for such wonderful feedback and thoughts on this issue.
I agree with Ms. Harini on the point that most of the members are "either immediate graduates or yet to graduate from college". In this era, where English is taught even at the elementary level, a person who is in college or has graduated is expected to be conversant in English and should be able to communicate effectively, without grammar mistakes. It's really shocking to see members posting threads with not even a grammatically correct sentence. Seniors can only point out the mistakes and guide them to learn and correct the language. Ultimately, the change should come from within and aim for improvement.
Mr. T Satheesh has raised a very tricky question to the moderators, whether to implement a rule regarding the posting of incorrect threads. I would appreciate such an initiative by Citehr, but it should in no way hinder the "learning experience" of this forum. No member should leave or ignore this forum due to the complexity it might involve when such rules are implemented. A process where all incorrect postings are displayed in the forum after being checked or corrected by senior members or moderators should be adopted. This will ensure that a member's query is addressed in the best possible manner. (This can be either a manual process or an automated one as suggested by Mr. TS)
Ms. Archana presented a different perspective on this issue. I would definitely agree with her point that language should not be a hindrance in expressing oneself and not a parameter to judge knowledge. However, given the circumstances of this forum, which is essentially one of the most sought-after HR blogs, it should maintain minimum standards in the usage of the English language. An idea is ideal only when the possessor expresses it clearly and effectively to the people.
As clearly indicated by Ms. (Cite Contribution), "Absence of intent to put in effort" is the most serious issue to be addressed within. Unless and until members decide to change, this issue will continue to haunt this forum. Let's hope that what we have discussed in this thread will be an eye-opener for everyone.
Thanks
From India, Mumbai
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