In another gang-rape at Shakti Mills too, a juvenile suspect
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Same accused, same location: the abandoned Shakti Mills compound in Mumbai
Mumbai: A minor accused was arrested in the second Shakti Mills gang-rape case on Tuesday. He was detained earlier in the day.
Among the five accused of the gang-rape of a 19-year-old call center worker on July 31, three are already in police custody.
Days after the accused in the gang-rape of a 22-year-old photojournalist confessed they had brutalized other women too, the 19-year-old said she too was gang-raped by at least three of them. A minor was involved in the earlier case too.
The woman, in her statement to the police, said five men assaulted her in the abandoned Shakti Mills compound in the heart of Mumbai on July 31. (Read)
In a modus operandi eerily similar to the August 22 incident, the 19-year-old said her attackers tied up her male friend who had accompanied her to the mills before assaulting her.
Police sources said the call center worker was so traumatized after the incident that she left Mumbai for Chhattisgarh without informing anyone.
Since a missing complaint was filed by her family, the police called the 19-year-old upon her return to Mumbai on Sunday.
It was then that she revealed her ordeal to the police and even identified the three men already under arrest in connection with a similar assault on the photojournalist, sources said.
This is the second case involving the Shakti Mills gang-rape accused, who have admitted to assaulting other women in the past, including a ragpicker, who is yet to come forward to record her statement.
If found to be serial offenders, the accused may end up spending their entire lives behind bars.
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Same accused, same location: the abandoned Shakti Mills compound in Mumbai
Mumbai: A minor accused was arrested in the second Shakti Mills gang-rape case on Tuesday. He was detained earlier in the day.
Among the five accused of the gang-rape of a 19-year-old call center worker on July 31, three are already in police custody.
Days after the accused in the gang-rape of a 22-year-old photojournalist confessed they had brutalized other women too, the 19-year-old said she too was gang-raped by at least three of them. A minor was involved in the earlier case too.
The woman, in her statement to the police, said five men assaulted her in the abandoned Shakti Mills compound in the heart of Mumbai on July 31. (Read)
In a modus operandi eerily similar to the August 22 incident, the 19-year-old said her attackers tied up her male friend who had accompanied her to the mills before assaulting her.
Police sources said the call center worker was so traumatized after the incident that she left Mumbai for Chhattisgarh without informing anyone.
Since a missing complaint was filed by her family, the police called the 19-year-old upon her return to Mumbai on Sunday.
It was then that she revealed her ordeal to the police and even identified the three men already under arrest in connection with a similar assault on the photojournalist, sources said.
This is the second case involving the Shakti Mills gang-rape accused, who have admitted to assaulting other women in the past, including a ragpicker, who is yet to come forward to record her statement.
If found to be serial offenders, the accused may end up spending their entire lives behind bars.
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What made the institution of marriage obsolete? Where will the rising rape phenomenon stagnate?
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In another gang-rape at Shakti Mills too, a juvenile suspect | NDTV.com
Thank you for providing the opening post source.
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In another gang-rape at Shakti Mills too, a juvenile suspect | NDTV.com
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These things involve a lot of psychological changes in teens' minds:
1. Media
2. Being accustomed to the latest gadgets
3. Loneliness from parents (Even parents assume they know everything. There should be a senior person such as grandparents in every family.)
4. Wrong perception about Western culture
5. Lifestyle modifications are seriously required!!!!
I am ready for a debate if anyone wants to.
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1. Media
2. Being accustomed to the latest gadgets
3. Loneliness from parents (Even parents assume they know everything. There should be a senior person such as grandparents in every family.)
4. Wrong perception about Western culture
5. Lifestyle modifications are seriously required!!!!
I am ready for a debate if anyone wants to.
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I totally agree with Kryptoncs on the point that there is very wrong perception about the western culture among various teenagers. Ethics and thinking change is required.
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The rape frequency is rising 100s of times. Will it ever stagnate or dwindle?
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Facts remaining the same perception and interpretation can be anything as the perceiver and interpreter pleases.Have you heard the story of 7 blind men and the elephant?
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"5. Seriously required Life style modification!!!!"Kryptoncs Can you name the models who have modified themselves as per your expectations?
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If Asaram Babu fails to control his sexual feelings and commits rape with an ill person, this becomes a focal point for research to understand why it happens. What are the factors that drive a person to commit such acts?
During my childhood, I was forcibly assaulted by our house servant. She showed a keen interest in this behavior even at a young age.
I am certain that no rules or punishments can effectively prevent such incidents because they have been occurring for a long time, and now these issues are being brought into the public eye.
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During my childhood, I was forcibly assaulted by our house servant. She showed a keen interest in this behavior even at a young age.
I am certain that no rules or punishments can effectively prevent such incidents because they have been occurring for a long time, and now these issues are being brought into the public eye.
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Is Sudden spurt of reporting rape 100s of times more real or fake? Conviction rate in rape cases is just about 10%
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Subject: Re: In another gang-rape at Shakti Mills too, a juvenile suspect
While I agree with Kryptoncs on all the 5 counts, I strongly feel EDUCATION is the most important factor. Education plays a key role in molding a mind to respect and value another life....
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While I agree with Kryptoncs on all the 5 counts, I strongly feel EDUCATION is the most important factor. Education plays a key role in molding a mind to respect and value another life....
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In foreign country their parents are allowed to do dating at teenager age. They found it normal. If there children’s are virgin after 18 they feel that something is wrong with my child. But at our country at most of the places when our parents want then only we can get married. Indian people cannot express them self in front of their parents that they want to get married. And of course because of our culture we also afraid to our society. This is also a reason why raps are increasing in India
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How far this proposal is feasible? Please examine thread bare.
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Dear Members
I would like to join this debate.
In my opinion, apart from many other things, the visual media has done very very damaging contributions towards the sudden spurt of these incidents.
If I list a few things which I feel is also contributory to this biological urge that is now turn out to be uncontrollable by the individual’s mind.
a) The way human body parts – especially of females - projected in the virtual media, through various kind s of advts and promotions. Many an occasion it looks without projecting certain parts of the body, though the product may not have relevance to it, promoter might be thinking his product cannot be sold. The teens especially and otherwise in general by seeing these kind of commercialisation of female body parts a wrong message is getting generated. So while seeing a female, in the first place, these wrong messages influence the wisdom. In the IPLs why scantily dressed models are introduced. Is this in any manner connected to the game of sports or their titillate movements connected with the game of sex? Introduced an attraction for male members, which induces in the male minds an image of females as show piece!
b) Sorry to say, but many may acknowledge, the fact is some kind of dresses (which is meant to cover up) also project the body part unintentionally. Here while choosing a dress one has to ensure, dress design meets up its objective of covering the body. . Please do not think I am advocating a Taliban kind of dress-code, but for a self check whether dress meets its intended objective.
In the human sexuality, males are called quickies; means just by seeing, by visualising / by imagination, etc. they get the sudden signals. In case of females their arousal is not as quick as male; need some kind of physical processes. Might this be the reason that uncontrollable sexual urge constantly ignited through various sources, causes a sudden rise of sexual attack on females.
c) In this kind of attacks, attack against female is mostly reported, but against males rarely reported. Difference here is attack against female is happening even in the open but against male is within the veiled walls.
d) In the current technological advancements availability of various gadgets and other fuelling things through internet created a wayward attitude towards opposite sex. And also careless attitude towards oneself (even for male) in dressing, behaviour, approach thinking patterns and relationship create a lot of damaging results.
e) Every day one can see reports of rape by juveniles, by old members like the self-styled godman. For the old men, might the visual media influencing their urge which otherwise forcefully suppress in the name of age or other circumstances. By seeing these kind of projections all around, their this biological need too sprouts up ending up with this kind of unfortunate incidents.
f) For the juveniles and youngsters it is quite natural, erupting biological urge surpasses their wisdom.
I am not endorsing them. Suggest to create a better understanding by way of guidance, education to make them aware of the good and unwarranted sides of sex.
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I would like to join this debate.
In my opinion, apart from many other things, the visual media has done very very damaging contributions towards the sudden spurt of these incidents.
If I list a few things which I feel is also contributory to this biological urge that is now turn out to be uncontrollable by the individual’s mind.
a) The way human body parts – especially of females - projected in the virtual media, through various kind s of advts and promotions. Many an occasion it looks without projecting certain parts of the body, though the product may not have relevance to it, promoter might be thinking his product cannot be sold. The teens especially and otherwise in general by seeing these kind of commercialisation of female body parts a wrong message is getting generated. So while seeing a female, in the first place, these wrong messages influence the wisdom. In the IPLs why scantily dressed models are introduced. Is this in any manner connected to the game of sports or their titillate movements connected with the game of sex? Introduced an attraction for male members, which induces in the male minds an image of females as show piece!
b) Sorry to say, but many may acknowledge, the fact is some kind of dresses (which is meant to cover up) also project the body part unintentionally. Here while choosing a dress one has to ensure, dress design meets up its objective of covering the body. . Please do not think I am advocating a Taliban kind of dress-code, but for a self check whether dress meets its intended objective.
In the human sexuality, males are called quickies; means just by seeing, by visualising / by imagination, etc. they get the sudden signals. In case of females their arousal is not as quick as male; need some kind of physical processes. Might this be the reason that uncontrollable sexual urge constantly ignited through various sources, causes a sudden rise of sexual attack on females.
c) In this kind of attacks, attack against female is mostly reported, but against males rarely reported. Difference here is attack against female is happening even in the open but against male is within the veiled walls.
d) In the current technological advancements availability of various gadgets and other fuelling things through internet created a wayward attitude towards opposite sex. And also careless attitude towards oneself (even for male) in dressing, behaviour, approach thinking patterns and relationship create a lot of damaging results.
e) Every day one can see reports of rape by juveniles, by old members like the self-styled godman. For the old men, might the visual media influencing their urge which otherwise forcefully suppress in the name of age or other circumstances. By seeing these kind of projections all around, their this biological need too sprouts up ending up with this kind of unfortunate incidents.
f) For the juveniles and youngsters it is quite natural, erupting biological urge surpasses their wisdom.
I am not endorsing them. Suggest to create a better understanding by way of guidance, education to make them aware of the good and unwarranted sides of sex.
Suresh
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A shocking tale of sexual abuse at CM's durbar
Lucknow, Sep 4 (IANS) A young woman Wednesday stunned people at the Uttar Pradesh chief minister's official residence here when she alleged that her father and brother had been sexually abusing her for the last 10 years, officials said.
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Lucknow, Sep 4 (IANS) A young woman Wednesday stunned people at the Uttar Pradesh chief minister's official residence here when she alleged that her father and brother had been sexually abusing her for the last 10 years, officials said.
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Discussions are yet to touch the spurt after December16,2012(Nirbhaya case)
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Up to 18 years, they are treated as juveniles, and the maximum punishment as per law is only 3 years of imprisonment. The age has to be lowered. Otherwise, in the name of juveniles, these culprits go scot-free without punishment.
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The institution of marriage is not obsolete if the parties involved respect it and put effort into highlighting the good aspects and addressing unpleasant incidents. Earlier, social controls restricted people from engaging in such acts. Stigmas were established. However, extramarital sex and sexual crimes existed even in earlier periods. The difference was that these acts were committed by influential individuals, not by everyone as it happens today. If a common man engaged in such behavior, he was punished by the so-called higher authorities of society, and if they were involved, it would be covered up.
In the past, society was more homogeneous, whereas today, there is little control over individuals, not even by parents. I believe that this type of crime has always existed in society; it is just more exposed now.
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In the past, society was more homogeneous, whereas today, there is little control over individuals, not even by parents. I believe that this type of crime has always existed in society; it is just more exposed now.
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But the difference between pre-December16,2012 and post-December16,2012 is the difference of a mole and a mountain
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Will it be foolproof or at least will it lower the frequency?
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I do not differentiate pre or post Dec 16, 2012. This crime was happening every now and then in our society but not reported as prominently as what had happened in the recent cases. Even there are victims/survivors still battling for life for long. This will further increase the kind of exposure everybody (both males & females) is getting. Even there was a report 10 days ago a great grandfather raped a girl of around 8 yrs. How will one justify this?
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[QUOTE=Dr. Jogeshwar Mahanta; 2087040]
The malady of rape was there. So there were sections 375/376 in IPC in 1860. This was not enough to contain the phenomenon. So in 1983, the rape law was amended, but the rate of rape went up. There was a further amendment in 2013. However, after that, the rate has gone up by leaps and bounds as per the report. No one knows whether these complaints are true or false. If the false complaints have gone up in leaps and bounds, then it is another unrecognized malady that is plaguing society more and more. Yes, the rate of conviction by the courts as per reported statistics is just about 10%. The conviction rate of 2013 will come later. Predict what percentage of accused will be convicted.
Dear Dr. Mahanta,
Sorry to interrupt, may I know what you would like to debate here in this forum on this subject because I cannot foresee any fruitful result out of it. In my opinion, many things need to be dissected (like psychological, sociological, biological factors, etc.) to understand the reason behind this defect. Finally, the result...?
Secondly, we have a hell of a lot of laws, and still, negative things are happening. Just by amending laws, adding new ones, no positive result will come up until proper execution is done, in which each one is involved/responsible. The blame game will continue without any end.
In this particular subject, again, each one has to ensure individually not to get involved, guide others like kids, siblings, relatives, etc., on what all individually can do to prevent it, to avoid provocative situations, and how to remain alert on certain occasions and circumstances. To some extent, self-check by everybody may prevent the frequency of occurrence. That is what I believe.
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The malady of rape was there. So there were sections 375/376 in IPC in 1860. This was not enough to contain the phenomenon. So in 1983, the rape law was amended, but the rate of rape went up. There was a further amendment in 2013. However, after that, the rate has gone up by leaps and bounds as per the report. No one knows whether these complaints are true or false. If the false complaints have gone up in leaps and bounds, then it is another unrecognized malady that is plaguing society more and more. Yes, the rate of conviction by the courts as per reported statistics is just about 10%. The conviction rate of 2013 will come later. Predict what percentage of accused will be convicted.
Dear Dr. Mahanta,
Sorry to interrupt, may I know what you would like to debate here in this forum on this subject because I cannot foresee any fruitful result out of it. In my opinion, many things need to be dissected (like psychological, sociological, biological factors, etc.) to understand the reason behind this defect. Finally, the result...?
Secondly, we have a hell of a lot of laws, and still, negative things are happening. Just by amending laws, adding new ones, no positive result will come up until proper execution is done, in which each one is involved/responsible. The blame game will continue without any end.
In this particular subject, again, each one has to ensure individually not to get involved, guide others like kids, siblings, relatives, etc., on what all individually can do to prevent it, to avoid provocative situations, and how to remain alert on certain occasions and circumstances. To some extent, self-check by everybody may prevent the frequency of occurrence. That is what I believe.
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I have No personal interest. it is a common cause having various facets.Just see if anything can or can not be done.
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It appears that the thoughts on the issue are exhausted.It appease as if as good as thoughts on corporate growth. Right?
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Severe punishment is a strong deterrent and reduces crimes. I can't say it's foolproof. Even crimes are happening in countries like KSA where the punishment level is very stringent, including capital punishment.
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Long back L.K.Adwani had suggested the death sentence, but the feminists opposed it. The deterrent theory is highly controversial.
If reports are indicators, then:
Prostitution has not gone down after the enactment of PITA in 1986;
Dowry deaths have not gone down after the enactment of s.304B of IPC in 1983/1984;
Dowry demands have not gone down after the enactment of s.498A of IPC in 1983/1984;
Rape reporting has gone up by leaps and bounds after the 2013 enactment of rape law.
So deterrence is the alibi, and retribution is the reality.
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If reports are indicators, then:
Prostitution has not gone down after the enactment of PITA in 1986;
Dowry deaths have not gone down after the enactment of s.304B of IPC in 1983/1984;
Dowry demands have not gone down after the enactment of s.498A of IPC in 1983/1984;
Rape reporting has gone up by leaps and bounds after the 2013 enactment of rape law.
So deterrence is the alibi, and retribution is the reality.
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In a year when violence against women was a recurring leitmotif in people's consciousness, why is it that women's groups are not greeting with applause Home Minister L K Advani's declaration that rapists should be punished with death?
Why is it that the most vehement critique against the death penalty for rapists has come from feminists? And why is it that the women's movement is forced to pursue issues that were raised more than 20 years ago?
One very good reason might be that unfortunately, these concerns are just as relevant today as they were two decades ago. The countrywide campaign in what has come to be known as the 'Mathura Case' brought rape onto the public agenda in the 1980s. The rape of a 17-year-old tribal girl by local policemen near Bombay and the subsequent acquittal of the rapists led to nationwide protests against patriarchal notions in the judiciary. The agitation sparked off by the Mathura case led to significant changes in the Criminal Procedure Code and the Indian Penal Code, especially shifting the onus of proof onto the accused in custodial rape.
The need for sustained campaigning even today is apparent from the fact that it was only in November 2002 - over two decades of campaigning later - that the Union Cabinet approved an amendment to the archaic Indian Evidence Act of 1872. The amendment, which seeks to debar questions related to general moral character in the cross-examination of a woman who has initiated proceedings against rape, was also recommended by the Law Commission of India in its 84th and 172nd Reports. If passed by Parliament, this might go some way in delinking the crime of rape from the prosecutrix's character, even though much remains to be done.
The atrocities committed on Muslim women in Gujarat bring to the fore the inadequacies in the rape law in glaring ways. Scores of women were raped and their bodies burnt beyond recognition, but their rapists will go scot-free because the 'evidence' of rape no longer exists. Women and minor girls were gang-raped in full public view, yet there are ostensibly no witnesses. Women were brutalised, with cricket bails and lathis (sticks) thrust into their vaginas, but this is not considered 'rape' as presently defined in the Indian Penal Code, which defines rape as non-consensual 'penetration of the vagina by the penis'.
Women who were raped were on the run for days, too terrified to approach the police who had shown their communal colours, but 'delay in filing FIR' is held against them as a demonstration that the complaint is not true. Unable to seek medical treatment, women are blamed for not furnishing medical reports to prove that they were raped.
The result? Only a handful of rape cases registered, and many of these withdrawn as complainant after complainant is forced to retract her statement by mobs that still roam free and threaten dire consequences if rape charges are pursued.
Can the death penalty for rape tackle this situation? Will Mr. Advani pronounce the death penalty on the unnamed 'mobs' that committed unspeakable crimes of sexual violence on the Muslim women of Gujarat? Clearly not. It is apparent that the existing criminal justice system in India is not capable of dealing with incidents of sexual violence, particularly those of a communal nature. What the experience of Gujarat shows more clearly than ever is the need to eliminate unjust evidentiary requirements that prevent prosecution without medical reports and other corroborating evidence.
While the sexual violence in Gujarat has been dismissed by no less a person than the Defence Minister of the country as occurrences that 'always happen' during riots, the general public in Delhi was shaken by incidents of women dragged into moving vehicles and raped, and students raped in broad daylight - what have been termed 'rush-hour rapes'.
A student of the law faculty in Delhi University was gang-raped possibly by fellow students. A medical college student was raped within a kilometre of the Police Headquarters and the National Commission for Women. Even as debates rage about whether the former was acquainted with the rapists, and whether the accused in the latter is actually a minor, the Delhi Police recently claimed a 10 per cent decline in crime, including rape.
Why is it that these claims are not convincing? A study in 2001 by Rainuka Dagar on 'Combating violence against women in Punjab' conducted by the Institute for Development and Communication, Chandigarh, found that for every reported rape case, 68 rapes went unreported. Silence forced on victims of sexual violence by anti-women biases in the police and judiciary, and an absence of familial and community support are apparent in this low rate of reporting, a situation found elsewhere in the country too.
The knee-jerk reaction of the Delhi police, in response to the spate of crimes against women, has been to set up 'special teams' to tackle crimes against women. Mobile teams to patrol and answer distress calls, arresting persons suspected of 'eve-teasing,' etc., are supposed to engender a feeling of security.
Is it any surprise that they do not? A survey conducted among students by Saheli - a Delhi-based women's group - found that a shocking 95 out of 100 women said that they would not report an incident of sexual violence to the police. 'Lack of trust,' 'fear of further complications,' and 'negative publicity' were some of the reasons they cited.
A recent (2000) report of the National Crime Records Bureau shows that between 1996 and 1999, the conviction rate for rape in police custody was zero. Will the death penalty for rape correct this appalling situation, where law keepers break the law and get away with impunity?
This is not the first time that L K Advani has pronounced death penalty for rapists. Two years ago, in 2000, this proposal had generated much opposition from women's groups. The National Commission for Women too had rejected the death penalty for rape and recommended instead that trials in rape cases be speeded up and procedural delays in trials be reduced through special courts.
There can be no compromise on enlightened jurisprudence that seeks to go beyond the 'eye for an eye' principle. Besides, it is apparent that the death penalty does not deter crime, and numerous studies have shown that judges are less likely to award the death penalty, which they reserve for the 'rarest of the rare' cases.
With an already low rate of conviction, introducing the death penalty is likely to further reduce the chances of conviction. Of great concern is the likelihood, as demonstrated in countries like the US, that men from minority communities make up a disproportionate number of death row inmates. In the context of India, a review of laws that are punishable with capital punishment brings out the discriminatory way in which such laws are applied to disadvantaged communities - religious and ethnic minorities and Dalits.
Awarding the death penalty merely appears to be a 'solution' to a complex problem that can be tackled only through commitment. Commitment that rests not on votes, but on genuine law reform and changing societal attitudes to sexual violence against women.
12-Jan-2003 More by: Laxmi Murthy - See more at: Why LK Advani is Wrong? by Laxmi Murthy
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In a year when violence against women was a recurring leitmotif in people's consciousness, why is it that women's groups are not greeting with applause Home Minister L K Advani's declaration that rapists should be punished with death?
Why is it that the most vehement critique against the death penalty for rapists has come from feminists? And why is it that the women's movement is forced to pursue issues that were raised more than 20 years ago?
One very good reason might be that unfortunately, these concerns are just as relevant today as they were two decades ago. The countrywide campaign in what has come to be known as the 'Mathura Case' brought rape onto the public agenda in the 1980s. The rape of a 17-year-old tribal girl by local policemen near Bombay and the subsequent acquittal of the rapists led to nationwide protests against patriarchal notions in the judiciary. The agitation sparked off by the Mathura case led to significant changes in the Criminal Procedure Code and the Indian Penal Code, especially shifting the onus of proof onto the accused in custodial rape.
The need for sustained campaigning even today is apparent from the fact that it was only in November 2002 - over two decades of campaigning later - that the Union Cabinet approved an amendment to the archaic Indian Evidence Act of 1872. The amendment, which seeks to debar questions related to general moral character in the cross-examination of a woman who has initiated proceedings against rape, was also recommended by the Law Commission of India in its 84th and 172nd Reports. If passed by Parliament, this might go some way in delinking the crime of rape from the prosecutrix's character, even though much remains to be done.
The atrocities committed on Muslim women in Gujarat bring to the fore the inadequacies in the rape law in glaring ways. Scores of women were raped and their bodies burnt beyond recognition, but their rapists will go scot-free because the 'evidence' of rape no longer exists. Women and minor girls were gang-raped in full public view, yet there are ostensibly no witnesses. Women were brutalised, with cricket bails and lathis (sticks) thrust into their vaginas, but this is not considered 'rape' as presently defined in the Indian Penal Code, which defines rape as non-consensual 'penetration of the vagina by the penis'.
Women who were raped were on the run for days, too terrified to approach the police who had shown their communal colours, but 'delay in filing FIR' is held against them as a demonstration that the complaint is not true. Unable to seek medical treatment, women are blamed for not furnishing medical reports to prove that they were raped.
The result? Only a handful of rape cases registered, and many of these withdrawn as complainant after complainant is forced to retract her statement by mobs that still roam free and threaten dire consequences if rape charges are pursued.
Can the death penalty for rape tackle this situation? Will Mr. Advani pronounce the death penalty on the unnamed 'mobs' that committed unspeakable crimes of sexual violence on the Muslim women of Gujarat? Clearly not. It is apparent that the existing criminal justice system in India is not capable of dealing with incidents of sexual violence, particularly those of a communal nature. What the experience of Gujarat shows more clearly than ever is the need to eliminate unjust evidentiary requirements that prevent prosecution without medical reports and other corroborating evidence.
While the sexual violence in Gujarat has been dismissed by no less a person than the Defence Minister of the country as occurrences that 'always happen' during riots, the general public in Delhi was shaken by incidents of women dragged into moving vehicles and raped, and students raped in broad daylight - what have been termed 'rush-hour rapes'.
A student of the law faculty in Delhi University was gang-raped possibly by fellow students. A medical college student was raped within a kilometre of the Police Headquarters and the National Commission for Women. Even as debates rage about whether the former was acquainted with the rapists, and whether the accused in the latter is actually a minor, the Delhi Police recently claimed a 10 per cent decline in crime, including rape.
Why is it that these claims are not convincing? A study in 2001 by Rainuka Dagar on 'Combating violence against women in Punjab' conducted by the Institute for Development and Communication, Chandigarh, found that for every reported rape case, 68 rapes went unreported. Silence forced on victims of sexual violence by anti-women biases in the police and judiciary, and an absence of familial and community support are apparent in this low rate of reporting, a situation found elsewhere in the country too.
The knee-jerk reaction of the Delhi police, in response to the spate of crimes against women, has been to set up 'special teams' to tackle crimes against women. Mobile teams to patrol and answer distress calls, arresting persons suspected of 'eve-teasing,' etc., are supposed to engender a feeling of security.
Is it any surprise that they do not? A survey conducted among students by Saheli - a Delhi-based women's group - found that a shocking 95 out of 100 women said that they would not report an incident of sexual violence to the police. 'Lack of trust,' 'fear of further complications,' and 'negative publicity' were some of the reasons they cited.
A recent (2000) report of the National Crime Records Bureau shows that between 1996 and 1999, the conviction rate for rape in police custody was zero. Will the death penalty for rape correct this appalling situation, where law keepers break the law and get away with impunity?
This is not the first time that L K Advani has pronounced death penalty for rapists. Two years ago, in 2000, this proposal had generated much opposition from women's groups. The National Commission for Women too had rejected the death penalty for rape and recommended instead that trials in rape cases be speeded up and procedural delays in trials be reduced through special courts.
There can be no compromise on enlightened jurisprudence that seeks to go beyond the 'eye for an eye' principle. Besides, it is apparent that the death penalty does not deter crime, and numerous studies have shown that judges are less likely to award the death penalty, which they reserve for the 'rarest of the rare' cases.
With an already low rate of conviction, introducing the death penalty is likely to further reduce the chances of conviction. Of great concern is the likelihood, as demonstrated in countries like the US, that men from minority communities make up a disproportionate number of death row inmates. In the context of India, a review of laws that are punishable with capital punishment brings out the discriminatory way in which such laws are applied to disadvantaged communities - religious and ethnic minorities and Dalits.
Awarding the death penalty merely appears to be a 'solution' to a complex problem that can be tackled only through commitment. Commitment that rests not on votes, but on genuine law reform and changing societal attitudes to sexual violence against women.
12-Jan-2003 More by: Laxmi Murthy - See more at: Why LK Advani is Wrong? by Laxmi Murthy
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It seems that the residual thoughts too are exhausted. What makes stream of consciousness unstream?
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"shook the conscience of the society." Does society have a conscience or citehr either?
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Conscience is still to grow.
By not blocking the disqualification of convicted MPs, parties have done the right thing - The Times of India
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By not blocking the disqualification of convicted MPs, parties have done the right thing - The Times of India
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But India is missing from the list.
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I do not think conscience of the society nor citeHr members remains unshaken by the repeated incidents of rape and rampant corruption especially in the Executive level. Still the Executives are (regardless of party politics) united to fight for their cause, “kissa kursi ka” and increased remuneration & other perquisites and offering less service to the public.
(May a question come up, am I the conscience keeper of society or citeHR members, sorry I am not, I just believe the above points must have shaken conscience...)
However I am confused by introducing those here... might others be too; so hardly any response thinking what solution can we offer.
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(May a question come up, am I the conscience keeper of society or citeHR members, sorry I am not, I just believe the above points must have shaken conscience...)
However I am confused by introducing those here... might others be too; so hardly any response thinking what solution can we offer.
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Was there only clarity on every issue and NO confusion here before the introduction of this topic?
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Public outrage after rape failed to bring a wave of change in Delhi - The Times of India
Public outrage after rape failed to bring a wave of change in Delhi - The Times of India
After the rape incident, public outrage in Delhi failed to bring about a significant wave of change.
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After the rape incident, public outrage in Delhi failed to bring about a significant wave of change.
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Post-Dec 16 Delhi safer for women: Dikshit
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Deterrence?
Defence alleges political hand - The Times of India
"We will wait for one-and-a-half months and see if rapes and gang rapes have stopped taking place in Delhi. If they stop, we won't appeal, but if they continue, we would definitely appeal in the high court," defense lawyer A P Singh said.
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Defence alleges political hand - The Times of India
"We will wait for one-and-a-half months and see if rapes and gang rapes have stopped taking place in Delhi. If they stop, we won't appeal, but if they continue, we would definitely appeal in the high court," defense lawyer A P Singh said.
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In my view, the only punishment for rape must be a death sentence. But before declaring a death sentence, the accused must be confirmed with the offense. After declaring the punishment, the accused should not be kept for a longer time period. The case must be closed without any delay, and the sentence awarded must be accomplished.
If they get time, then the accused will start applying for an appeal, and the purpose of punishing them will go in vain. That's why it was said, "Justice Delayed is Justice Denied."
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If they get time, then the accused will start applying for an appeal, and the purpose of punishing them will go in vain. That's why it was said, "Justice Delayed is Justice Denied."
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What is happening in India is absolutely shocking. Those men should be hanged so that it can be a lesson to others.
We cannot continue living in a world where men are becoming beasts. To the young lady, seek professional help and divine intervention to ease the trauma.
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We cannot continue living in a world where men are becoming beasts. To the young lady, seek professional help and divine intervention to ease the trauma.
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Delhi gang rape verdict: Confirmation might take a year
The URL provided leads to an article discussing the potential delay in confirming the verdict for the Delhi gang rape case. This delay raises concerns about the timeline of justice for the victims and highlights the complexities of the legal process. It is crucial to address such delays and ensure that justice is served in a timely manner. The article sheds light on the challenges faced in delivering justice in cases of this nature and underscores the need for a more efficient judicial system.
Overall, the article emphasizes the importance of expediting the legal process to provide closure to the victims and their families. It highlights the need for reforms to streamline the judicial system and reduce delays in delivering justice. Addressing these issues is essential to upholding the rule of law and ensuring that perpetrators are held accountable for their actions.
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The URL provided leads to an article discussing the potential delay in confirming the verdict for the Delhi gang rape case. This delay raises concerns about the timeline of justice for the victims and highlights the complexities of the legal process. It is crucial to address such delays and ensure that justice is served in a timely manner. The article sheds light on the challenges faced in delivering justice in cases of this nature and underscores the need for a more efficient judicial system.
Overall, the article emphasizes the importance of expediting the legal process to provide closure to the victims and their families. It highlights the need for reforms to streamline the judicial system and reduce delays in delivering justice. Addressing these issues is essential to upholding the rule of law and ensuring that perpetrators are held accountable for their actions.
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Facts and law remaining the same interpretation can be anything as the interpreter lordship pleases. So first of all we need CONSENSUS.
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Billa and Ranga were hanged. Now four are sentenced to death. What law can be stronger than this?
Facts and law remaining the same, interpretation can be anything as the interpreter lordship pleases. Therefore, consensus is badly needed.
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Facts and law remaining the same, interpretation can be anything as the interpreter lordship pleases. Therefore, consensus is badly needed.
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throw news channel i got to know, our HM said, death penalty for brutal murder not xctly for rape..... n this only for rarest of rare case.
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Facts remaining the same interpretation can be anything as the interpreter pleases. 2.So consensus is a must.
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Apparently referring to the 23-year-old victim in the December 16 incident, Mr. Singh had told the media in reply to a question, ”...If my daughter was having premarital sex and moving around at night with her boyfriend, I would have burnt her alive. I would not have let this situation happen. All parents should adopt such an attitude.”
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Title: Delhi Gang-Rape Case: Bar Council Serves Notice to Defence Lawyer - The Times of India
URL: [Delhi gang-rape case: Bar council serves notice to defence lawyer - The Times of India](http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/delhi/Delhi-gang-rape-case-Bar-council-serves-notice-to-defence-lawyer/articleshow/22666237.cms)
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In a recent development concerning the Delhi gang-rape case, the Bar Council has issued a notice to the defense lawyer. This move comes as a significant step in ensuring accountability and adherence to legal ethics within the legal profession. The case has garnered widespread attention and raised important discussions about the role of lawyers in such high-profile and sensitive matters.
It is crucial for legal practitioners to uphold the principles of justice and fairness while representing clients, especially in cases that have a substantial impact on society. The notice served to the defense lawyer underscores the importance of conducting oneself professionally and ethically in all legal proceedings.
This action by the Bar Council highlights the responsibility that lawyers bear in upholding the integrity of the legal system and ensuring that justice is served impartially. It also serves as a reminder that legal advocacy must be carried out with respect for the law and the rights of all individuals involved.
Overall, this development underscores the significance of maintaining ethical standards in the legal profession, particularly in cases that involve serious implications for victims, perpetrators, and society as a whole. It reinforces the idea that legal representation should always be guided by principles of integrity, fairness, and respect for the law.
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URL: [Delhi gang-rape case: Bar council serves notice to defence lawyer - The Times of India](http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/delhi/Delhi-gang-rape-case-Bar-council-serves-notice-to-defence-lawyer/articleshow/22666237.cms)
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In a recent development concerning the Delhi gang-rape case, the Bar Council has issued a notice to the defense lawyer. This move comes as a significant step in ensuring accountability and adherence to legal ethics within the legal profession. The case has garnered widespread attention and raised important discussions about the role of lawyers in such high-profile and sensitive matters.
It is crucial for legal practitioners to uphold the principles of justice and fairness while representing clients, especially in cases that have a substantial impact on society. The notice served to the defense lawyer underscores the importance of conducting oneself professionally and ethically in all legal proceedings.
This action by the Bar Council highlights the responsibility that lawyers bear in upholding the integrity of the legal system and ensuring that justice is served impartially. It also serves as a reminder that legal advocacy must be carried out with respect for the law and the rights of all individuals involved.
Overall, this development underscores the significance of maintaining ethical standards in the legal profession, particularly in cases that involve serious implications for victims, perpetrators, and society as a whole. It reinforces the idea that legal representation should always be guided by principles of integrity, fairness, and respect for the law.
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Lawyer for Delhi Rape Convicts Told to Explain Comment
Facts and law remaining the same, interpretation can be anything as the interpreter lordship pleases.
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Facts and law remaining the same, interpretation can be anything as the interpreter lordship pleases.
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Mumbai Police file chargesheet, confident of 'maximum punishment' in Shakti mills gangrape case
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Fast-track courts slow down justice - The Times of India
Hi, I found an interesting article discussing how fast-track courts may actually be slowing down the delivery of justice. The article highlights the challenges and inefficiencies in the functioning of these specialized courts, which were established to expedite the legal process.
According to the piece, the lack of adequate infrastructure, resources, and manpower has resulted in delays and backlogs in fast-track courts. This raises questions about the effectiveness of such courts in achieving their intended purpose of swift and efficient justice delivery.
The article also underscores the need for comprehensive reforms and investments in the justice system to address these issues and ensure timely resolution of cases. It serves as a reminder that simply creating fast-track courts is not enough; sustained efforts and improvements are essential to truly expedite the legal process and uphold the principles of justice.
Overall, the article sheds light on an important aspect of the legal system and prompts reflection on how best to enhance the efficiency and effectiveness of judicial processes in the country.
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Hi, I found an interesting article discussing how fast-track courts may actually be slowing down the delivery of justice. The article highlights the challenges and inefficiencies in the functioning of these specialized courts, which were established to expedite the legal process.
According to the piece, the lack of adequate infrastructure, resources, and manpower has resulted in delays and backlogs in fast-track courts. This raises questions about the effectiveness of such courts in achieving their intended purpose of swift and efficient justice delivery.
The article also underscores the need for comprehensive reforms and investments in the justice system to address these issues and ensure timely resolution of cases. It serves as a reminder that simply creating fast-track courts is not enough; sustained efforts and improvements are essential to truly expedite the legal process and uphold the principles of justice.
Overall, the article sheds light on an important aspect of the legal system and prompts reflection on how best to enhance the efficiency and effectiveness of judicial processes in the country.
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AP singh said but they did it.Listen the video:
Honour killing in Rohtak: Girl lynched to death, boy beheaded | Watch the video - Screen India
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Honour killing in Rohtak: Girl lynched to death, boy beheaded | Watch the video - Screen India
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What honor are they getting out of killing? They are murderers, worse than animals. Why do such crimes continue unabated in Haryana? Is the political class extending tacit support to these heinous crimes?
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1. With the facts remaining the same, interpretation can be anything as the interpreter pleases.
2. With the facts and law remaining the same, interpretation can be anything as the interpreter lordship pleases.
No remedy in view.
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2. With the facts and law remaining the same, interpretation can be anything as the interpreter lordship pleases.
No remedy in view.
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Dear Pon Sir,
To maintain the dignity of the family, if a girl chooses a wrong lifestyle (engaging in illegitimate relationships), the brother or father may kill the girl. This practice is known as honor killing. In some areas, to uphold the family's status, the parents or brother of the girl may kill her for marrying outside her caste.
In some countries, honor killing is accepted with no punishment (in Middle Eastern countries). However, in India, it is a punishable offense.
Let us wait and see what the judgment will be for this Rohtak honor killing.
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To maintain the dignity of the family, if a girl chooses a wrong lifestyle (engaging in illegitimate relationships), the brother or father may kill the girl. This practice is known as honor killing. In some areas, to uphold the family's status, the parents or brother of the girl may kill her for marrying outside her caste.
In some countries, honor killing is accepted with no punishment (in Middle Eastern countries). However, in India, it is a punishable offense.
Let us wait and see what the judgment will be for this Rohtak honor killing.
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When honour killing is confirmed the punishment is as for murder in india. Facts and law remaining the same interpretation can be anything as the interpreter lordship pleases.
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Links provided for news articles on death sentences for honor killings in different regions:
1. Uttar Pradesh: 10 individuals receive the death penalty for honor killing in Lucknow - India Today
2. Five individuals sentenced to death for honor killing - Merinews
3. Delhi Court sentences 3 individuals to death for honor killing - India TV News
4. Two individuals receive death sentences for 'honour killing' of two widows in the village of Bhiwani district - Times Of India
Please provide the correct link for the last sentence as it seems incomplete.
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1. Uttar Pradesh: 10 individuals receive the death penalty for honor killing in Lucknow - India Today
2. Five individuals sentenced to death for honor killing - Merinews
3. Delhi Court sentences 3 individuals to death for honor killing - India TV News
4. Two individuals receive death sentences for 'honour killing' of two widows in the village of Bhiwani district - Times Of India
Please provide the correct link for the last sentence as it seems incomplete.
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Honour killings: notice issued to governments - The Hindu
The link provided leads to an article on honour killings and the notice issued to governments. It is important to address such issues and work towards preventing such heinous acts in society. The authorities need to take action and ensure justice for the victims and their families. Let us hope that steps are taken to curb these practices and promote a more just and humane society.
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The link provided leads to an article on honour killings and the notice issued to governments. It is important to address such issues and work towards preventing such heinous acts in society. The authorities need to take action and ensure justice for the victims and their families. Let us hope that steps are taken to curb these practices and promote a more just and humane society.
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