Dear All,
I am an HR professional with 2 years of experience in HR. Currently, I am looking to pursue the SAP HR module. I have some queries regarding this, and it would be very helpful if someone could answer them. Here they are:
1. Are there different modules in SAP HR?
2. If yes, then which module should I opt for? I am currently working in a generalist profile in an IT company.
3. I am interested in a Business Analyst profile. What steps should I take for this?
4. What options are available after completing the course?
5. Will my experience be considered as 0 (zero) years or as 2 years?
Please assist me with this matter.
Thanks,
Gaurav
From India, Bangalore
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I am an HR professional with 2 years of experience in HR. Currently, I am looking to pursue the SAP HR module. I have some queries regarding this, and it would be very helpful if someone could answer them. Here they are:
1. Are there different modules in SAP HR?
2. If yes, then which module should I opt for? I am currently working in a generalist profile in an IT company.
3. I am interested in a Business Analyst profile. What steps should I take for this?
4. What options are available after completing the course?
5. Will my experience be considered as 0 (zero) years or as 2 years?
Please assist me with this matter.
Thanks,
Gaurav
From India, Bangalore
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Try contacting Genovate SAP Training Institute. It's a wonderful course with great potential for a job.
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Thank you for the information. Below is the list of SAP HR modules provided on the website:
- Human Capital Management (HCM)
- Procurement (MM)
- Order Fulfillment (SD)
- Production Planning (PP)
- Project Management (PS)
- Plant Maintenance (PM)
- Quality Management (QM)
- Finance (FI)
- Controlling (CO)
- Business Intelligence (BI)
- Customer Relationship Management (CRM)
- Advanced Business Application Programming (ABAP)
- Business application software information system (BASIS)
I am an Electronics and Telecommunication Engineer with an MBA in HR and 2 years of relevant experience. Which module would be suitable for me?
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Gaurav
From India, Bangalore
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- Human Capital Management (HCM)
- Procurement (MM)
- Order Fulfillment (SD)
- Production Planning (PP)
- Project Management (PS)
- Plant Maintenance (PM)
- Quality Management (QM)
- Finance (FI)
- Controlling (CO)
- Business Intelligence (BI)
- Customer Relationship Management (CRM)
- Advanced Business Application Programming (ABAP)
- Business application software information system (BASIS)
I am an Electronics and Telecommunication Engineer with an MBA in HR and 2 years of relevant experience. Which module would be suitable for me?
Regards,
Gaurav
From India, Bangalore
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Hi Gaurav,
The above listed are SAP ERP ECC modules.
They are not SAP HR/HCM Modules.
SAP is an ERP; therefore, it covers all business areas and applications pertaining to several business functions. HR/HCM is just one of them.
SAP HR/HCM Modules have close to 15 plus sub-modules, and the major ones are Personnel Administration, Organization Management, Payroll (country version), and Time Management. Also, there is a Personnel Development component (module). There are others that I am not listing here.
Now, all these have their counterparts in the Portal Versions, most commonly implemented as ESS/MSS functionality.
ABAP is the programming language of SAP in which the modules are enhanced, changed, or customized.
BASIS is the systems part of SAP, which involves SAP installation and administration of the main ERP software.
Ideally, someone with an HR background can opt to become a Functional Consultant. Someone with an Engineering/MCA background ideally becomes BASIS or ABAP technical consultant.
If you like programming, you can learn ABAP and become a Techno-Functional consultant since you understand HR. If you want to Learn SAP, you can do a certification course from Genovate or the other Institutes.
You will be spending 4 lakhs as a total investment for 1 month. Yes! This includes your classroom training for 4 rigorous weeks and then 4 days after the training you will have your certification exam.
The certification exams for HR are very hard to clear. There is a minimum requirement of passing % required. Questions are multiple-choice and have more than one correct answer within a single question. Also, 60% of those questions are case-based - meaning only if you have understood your classroom teaching each week and done exercises, only then you will be able to "think" and "choose" the right answers.
If you flunk, you will have two more attempts to appear within 6 months. Each attempt will cost you 30k.
About classroom training: 8 hours each day Mon-Fri. Plus, you sit back for 4 hours and complete exercises. The books for each week are new and are close to 800 pages each. 4 books in all.
Now, take this with a grain of salt. Even if you clear your certification - if you don't have SAP HR functional experience, you will never get a job. You can wait anywhere from 6 months to 1 year. Institutes lie about placements. The other ones who give you fake experience can cost you your job.
If you are not an MBA, this is okay for you. But if you are, then it's bad as you will have to start out with fresher engineers with the same salary and level.
That is as far as SAP is concerned.
If you want to be a Business Analyst, why do you need to get into SAP? There is no remote connection to that. For being a BA, you have to have your functional knowledge in place. Mainly, the process flows of how a certain function in a business can be modeled on the system level. Once you know that, you must figure out what technology applications can be developed and integrated that are most suitable for your function. BA is a skill where you must understand both Business function and Technology in almost an equal sense.
Hope that clears the cobwebs from your head.
And yes, lastly to answer the question which you didn't ask but perhaps you want to ask. No, SAP salaries are not great for the first 5 years. Also, mobility on projects is very stressful, and it's not as glamorous as an SAP consultant shows it to be. Initially, one ends up on a support project and not an implementation project. Also, the market for SAP HR is polluted with non-HR qualified people who are stuck with what they have as they know nothing about HR as a business or strategic function. This results in high client dissatisfaction, but they are recruited anyways as they are cheaper than an MBA.
So be clear if you want to be a Business analyst or an SAP consultant or you want to work for a company that has implemented modern-day HR technology solutions like Workday, Peoplesoft, etc.
Good Luck.
From India, Mumbai
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The above listed are SAP ERP ECC modules.
They are not SAP HR/HCM Modules.
SAP is an ERP; therefore, it covers all business areas and applications pertaining to several business functions. HR/HCM is just one of them.
SAP HR/HCM Modules have close to 15 plus sub-modules, and the major ones are Personnel Administration, Organization Management, Payroll (country version), and Time Management. Also, there is a Personnel Development component (module). There are others that I am not listing here.
Now, all these have their counterparts in the Portal Versions, most commonly implemented as ESS/MSS functionality.
ABAP is the programming language of SAP in which the modules are enhanced, changed, or customized.
BASIS is the systems part of SAP, which involves SAP installation and administration of the main ERP software.
Ideally, someone with an HR background can opt to become a Functional Consultant. Someone with an Engineering/MCA background ideally becomes BASIS or ABAP technical consultant.
If you like programming, you can learn ABAP and become a Techno-Functional consultant since you understand HR. If you want to Learn SAP, you can do a certification course from Genovate or the other Institutes.
You will be spending 4 lakhs as a total investment for 1 month. Yes! This includes your classroom training for 4 rigorous weeks and then 4 days after the training you will have your certification exam.
The certification exams for HR are very hard to clear. There is a minimum requirement of passing % required. Questions are multiple-choice and have more than one correct answer within a single question. Also, 60% of those questions are case-based - meaning only if you have understood your classroom teaching each week and done exercises, only then you will be able to "think" and "choose" the right answers.
If you flunk, you will have two more attempts to appear within 6 months. Each attempt will cost you 30k.
About classroom training: 8 hours each day Mon-Fri. Plus, you sit back for 4 hours and complete exercises. The books for each week are new and are close to 800 pages each. 4 books in all.
Now, take this with a grain of salt. Even if you clear your certification - if you don't have SAP HR functional experience, you will never get a job. You can wait anywhere from 6 months to 1 year. Institutes lie about placements. The other ones who give you fake experience can cost you your job.
If you are not an MBA, this is okay for you. But if you are, then it's bad as you will have to start out with fresher engineers with the same salary and level.
That is as far as SAP is concerned.
If you want to be a Business Analyst, why do you need to get into SAP? There is no remote connection to that. For being a BA, you have to have your functional knowledge in place. Mainly, the process flows of how a certain function in a business can be modeled on the system level. Once you know that, you must figure out what technology applications can be developed and integrated that are most suitable for your function. BA is a skill where you must understand both Business function and Technology in almost an equal sense.
Hope that clears the cobwebs from your head.
And yes, lastly to answer the question which you didn't ask but perhaps you want to ask. No, SAP salaries are not great for the first 5 years. Also, mobility on projects is very stressful, and it's not as glamorous as an SAP consultant shows it to be. Initially, one ends up on a support project and not an implementation project. Also, the market for SAP HR is polluted with non-HR qualified people who are stuck with what they have as they know nothing about HR as a business or strategic function. This results in high client dissatisfaction, but they are recruited anyways as they are cheaper than an MBA.
So be clear if you want to be a Business analyst or an SAP consultant or you want to work for a company that has implemented modern-day HR technology solutions like Workday, Peoplesoft, etc.
Good Luck.
From India, Mumbai
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