I have an experiance of around 3 years in sales and i have done mba in hr an mktg. Now i want to change my carreer from sales to HR will i get a chance to do it...
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Hi Preet,
I really appreciate your career move! You do not have experience in the HR domain, so consider finding an executive-level HR job in an FMCG or sales industry. You have good experience in the marketing field, so you could potentially work in parallel in the same company. Additionally, you can easily understand the basic needs and expectations of marketing personnel and effectively train them.
Alternatively, you could focus on gaining knowledge in the HR domain, which you can learn from your superior.
Wishing you all the best - go ahead!
From India, Surat
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I really appreciate your career move! You do not have experience in the HR domain, so consider finding an executive-level HR job in an FMCG or sales industry. You have good experience in the marketing field, so you could potentially work in parallel in the same company. Additionally, you can easily understand the basic needs and expectations of marketing personnel and effectively train them.
Alternatively, you could focus on gaining knowledge in the HR domain, which you can learn from your superior.
Wishing you all the best - go ahead!
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Preet,
Good decision. Please go ahead. For any field, the passion to learn new things is most important. If you have a passion to be an HR person, this is the right time to change careers.
All the best.
Regards,
P K Sudarsan
Senior Executive HR
pk_sudarsan@wabag.in
From India, Chennai
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Good decision. Please go ahead. For any field, the passion to learn new things is most important. If you have a passion to be an HR person, this is the right time to change careers.
All the best.
Regards,
P K Sudarsan
Senior Executive HR
pk_sudarsan@wabag.in
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Dear Preet,
Opinions of Rakesh and Sudarshan aside, I do not approve of your decision to change fields. After three years in sales, if you enter HR, you are essentially setting the clock back by three years. In the long run, this regressive step may prove to be counterproductive. I say this because you should capitalize on your MBA in Marketing and not sideline it.
These thoughts come to mind because I am uncertain if you have conducted a proper career plan or SWOT analysis of your career. Each of your moves should align with your long-term career strategy.
Why do you not consider pursuing a hardcore marketing role instead of transitioning from sales? In marketing, there are various sub-disciplines such as channel sales, market research, advertising, etc. Have you explored those possibilities?
Just yesterday, I provided career advice in two posts. You can refer to them by clicking the following links:
All the best!
Dinesh V Divekar
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Opinions of Rakesh and Sudarshan aside, I do not approve of your decision to change fields. After three years in sales, if you enter HR, you are essentially setting the clock back by three years. In the long run, this regressive step may prove to be counterproductive. I say this because you should capitalize on your MBA in Marketing and not sideline it.
These thoughts come to mind because I am uncertain if you have conducted a proper career plan or SWOT analysis of your career. Each of your moves should align with your long-term career strategy.
Why do you not consider pursuing a hardcore marketing role instead of transitioning from sales? In marketing, there are various sub-disciplines such as channel sales, market research, advertising, etc. Have you explored those possibilities?
Just yesterday, I provided career advice in two posts. You can refer to them by clicking the following links:
All the best!
Dinesh V Divekar
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Preet, please review the spellings of the words 'experience' and 'career' in your query above. One has to be focused on these small things in life while looking for a change. These issues are related not only to 'communication skills' but also to 'perfection' and 'quality', aspects generally considered by organizations when searching for suitable candidates. You may benefit from this advice.
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I do not sit and make value judgments on whether your decision is good or bad. You are the best judge. However, having spent three years in marketing, do not make any decisions regarding a change of career in a moment of emotion, frustration, self-doubt, or based on any incident. As other learned members have said, it is difficult to turn back the clock. Sit back, relax, review the issue, identify the reasons/problems for switching over, and list out options within your existing marketing career such as branching out into branding. Conduct a SWOT analysis and then make a decision.
B. Saikumar
HR & Labour Law Advisor
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Hello Preet,
Other members have given their valued suggestions and advice, based on their experience and participating in CiteHR discussions. Having said that, at the end of the day, it's YOUR career and life—anyone and everyone can advise or suggest. But it's YOU who needs to take the final decision or plunge.
If you want this forum to suggest ways of shifting to HR—meaning to say "I have decided and tell me HOW to do it"—then you already have some suggestions given. If you want advice on IF it's advisable to shift to HR, then you again have some suggestions already given above.
However, CAN YOU please mention YOUR reason(s) for this thought to come up in the first place? A lot would depend on WHY you want to shift. This is what Dinesh and Saikumar meant by the SWOT analysis. The HOW part would come later. Unless the members know your reasons, any suggestion(s) would be inaccurate and off the mark to a large extent.
All the Best.
Regards,
TS
From India, Hyderabad
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Other members have given their valued suggestions and advice, based on their experience and participating in CiteHR discussions. Having said that, at the end of the day, it's YOUR career and life—anyone and everyone can advise or suggest. But it's YOU who needs to take the final decision or plunge.
If you want this forum to suggest ways of shifting to HR—meaning to say "I have decided and tell me HOW to do it"—then you already have some suggestions given. If you want advice on IF it's advisable to shift to HR, then you again have some suggestions already given above.
However, CAN YOU please mention YOUR reason(s) for this thought to come up in the first place? A lot would depend on WHY you want to shift. This is what Dinesh and Saikumar meant by the SWOT analysis. The HOW part would come later. Unless the members know your reasons, any suggestion(s) would be inaccurate and off the mark to a large extent.
All the Best.
Regards,
TS
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Good decision. Welcome on board! I was a Secretary; did a Diploma in Russian Language way back in 1978 but then there was an opportunity to help our HR department, on and off. I grabbed the opportunity, did my PG Diploma in HR (those days MBAs were very rare...). I worked for over 20 years in HR and retired as Head & Sr DGM - HR.
If you have the desire and passion, you can excel in any field. You should have this feeling for helping others, and each employee is your internal customer. Please keep this in mind while playing an HR role.
Best wishes
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If you have the desire and passion, you can excel in any field. You should have this feeling for helping others, and each employee is your internal customer. Please keep this in mind while playing an HR role.
Best wishes
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Dear Preet,
Sadly but true like several queries, there isn't enough data to provide you the right in-puts. Whatever that has been said so far, or whatever I would say will be based on assumptions, right or wrong, who knows. You have a target and aim for it you might hit the bull's eye, or least will get a reality check as to where you are. The other way around is to shoot anywhere and then go and draw the target, you can claim to have hit the bull's eye.
In this case, I must honestly confess I do not know where I stand vis-a-vis the target, however, would like to take the chance. I will ensure that I'll try opening out your mind more than either endorse or oppose your plan.
1. I would want to ask is you intent to move our of Sales and your Motivation to move to HR? I mean is it a job or true calling?
2. Are you being assured a job/career in HR that you want to slide, becauase a typical HR job, as you know involves knowing, the importance of dealing with all types of people and personalities?
As a new graduate enters the work arena he/she is exposed to many career choices. Carefully choosing a career will help to stay motivated and remain a star performer throughout one’s career.
Transition is an on-going process in everyone’s life that takes place at different stages. In practice it begins from the final years of school to the early years of higher education, occupational training, independent living or social opportunities. Also it can be from the final years of college/campus to the early years of one’s career.
Transition from one field to another to redeem or enhance your career after garnering a few years of experience, needs more attention as it involves a lot of planning.
Planning for transition should take account of the personal goals and ambitions. The objective of the planning must ensure that you possess the necessary skills to enable the person to cope up with the new area, the corporate culture and business climate. Be absolutely sure that the transition period will be very challenging, stressful and difficult, hence, proper planning helps in reducing anxieties and will facilitate you adapt to the new environment successfully.
For you to start working in HR in an organization is a unique and critically important phase that requires a special perspective and strategy to be successful. Research suggests that the success of the transition period will have a major impact on aspects like salary, advancement, job satisfaction, and ability to have cordial relationships within the organization as well as on one’s own feelings of success, accountability and commitment to the job. And, the impact will last for many years and not just for the first few years. Preparing oneself to bridge the gap smoothly, between the experience garnered and the expertise the change, will demand, a lot of effort.
Possessing better soft skills, the required technical skills, effective communication skills will help you face the new challenges with courage and confidence, provided you know the subject well. Making a first impression as an effective contributor will make the process of transition easier. Mannerism, behavior, the way one dresses up, the way one carries himself are some of the personality traits that set the tone for future success on the part of the employer.
In today’s competitive market these factors are very necessary to succeed on the job. It also helps in building strong employability and engagement skills that are a necessary attribute to be successful in the chosen occupation and aids in developing one’s individuality.
Best wishes.
From India, Hyderabad
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Sadly but true like several queries, there isn't enough data to provide you the right in-puts. Whatever that has been said so far, or whatever I would say will be based on assumptions, right or wrong, who knows. You have a target and aim for it you might hit the bull's eye, or least will get a reality check as to where you are. The other way around is to shoot anywhere and then go and draw the target, you can claim to have hit the bull's eye.
In this case, I must honestly confess I do not know where I stand vis-a-vis the target, however, would like to take the chance. I will ensure that I'll try opening out your mind more than either endorse or oppose your plan.
1. I would want to ask is you intent to move our of Sales and your Motivation to move to HR? I mean is it a job or true calling?
2. Are you being assured a job/career in HR that you want to slide, becauase a typical HR job, as you know involves knowing, the importance of dealing with all types of people and personalities?
As a new graduate enters the work arena he/she is exposed to many career choices. Carefully choosing a career will help to stay motivated and remain a star performer throughout one’s career.
Transition is an on-going process in everyone’s life that takes place at different stages. In practice it begins from the final years of school to the early years of higher education, occupational training, independent living or social opportunities. Also it can be from the final years of college/campus to the early years of one’s career.
Transition from one field to another to redeem or enhance your career after garnering a few years of experience, needs more attention as it involves a lot of planning.
Planning for transition should take account of the personal goals and ambitions. The objective of the planning must ensure that you possess the necessary skills to enable the person to cope up with the new area, the corporate culture and business climate. Be absolutely sure that the transition period will be very challenging, stressful and difficult, hence, proper planning helps in reducing anxieties and will facilitate you adapt to the new environment successfully.
For you to start working in HR in an organization is a unique and critically important phase that requires a special perspective and strategy to be successful. Research suggests that the success of the transition period will have a major impact on aspects like salary, advancement, job satisfaction, and ability to have cordial relationships within the organization as well as on one’s own feelings of success, accountability and commitment to the job. And, the impact will last for many years and not just for the first few years. Preparing oneself to bridge the gap smoothly, between the experience garnered and the expertise the change, will demand, a lot of effort.
Possessing better soft skills, the required technical skills, effective communication skills will help you face the new challenges with courage and confidence, provided you know the subject well. Making a first impression as an effective contributor will make the process of transition easier. Mannerism, behavior, the way one dresses up, the way one carries himself are some of the personality traits that set the tone for future success on the part of the employer.
In today’s competitive market these factors are very necessary to succeed on the job. It also helps in building strong employability and engagement skills that are a necessary attribute to be successful in the chosen occupation and aids in developing one’s individuality.
Best wishes.
From India, Hyderabad
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Adding to what I have already mentioned above, you have to fully equip and prepare yourself for the changeover. It is not too easy, so be prepared mentally to face the migration. It is possible you may face more challenges, discouraging comments, and insurmountable opposition. Be prepared to face them and overcome them.
As some of our professional colleagues have pointed out, there are some glaring spelling mistakes in your postings. While technical people can be excused, HR professionals should not make such errors. Occasional typos can be ignored or excused, but the repetition of such mistakes will be glaringly visible. Please work on this area if you want to transition to HR!
Best wishes
From India, Bengaluru
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As some of our professional colleagues have pointed out, there are some glaring spelling mistakes in your postings. While technical people can be excused, HR professionals should not make such errors. Occasional typos can be ignored or excused, but the repetition of such mistakes will be glaringly visible. Please work on this area if you want to transition to HR!
Best wishes
From India, Bengaluru
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Dear Preet,
With much dismay, I have noted that you have not acknowledged the replies of the seniors even after 48 hours. Some of them are double your age!
Mr. Raman must have spent at least 45 minutes typing his long reply for you. If you have some gumption, the least thing you can do is acknowledge the efforts that seniors have put in for you.
Gratuitousness is a virtue. Without this, you may grow, but then you are doomed to fall, that is for sure.
Dinesh V Divekar
From India, Bangalore
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With much dismay, I have noted that you have not acknowledged the replies of the seniors even after 48 hours. Some of them are double your age!
Mr. Raman must have spent at least 45 minutes typing his long reply for you. If you have some gumption, the least thing you can do is acknowledge the efforts that seniors have put in for you.
Gratuitousness is a virtue. Without this, you may grow, but then you are doomed to fall, that is for sure.
Dinesh V Divekar
From India, Bangalore
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Mr. Divekar,
I find that many people just shoot in the dark for the heck of it. They ask a one-liner question and then sit back to watch all the grey hairs trying to sort out the riddle! Sometimes I wonder whether it is worth the while to really try to help these individuals.
This subject intrigued me (even though I am past the age of looking for a job) and I wanted to learn about the various viewpoints on offer. However, it seems that the person asking the question is not interested.
R. Ramamurthy
From India, Bangalore
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I find that many people just shoot in the dark for the heck of it. They ask a one-liner question and then sit back to watch all the grey hairs trying to sort out the riddle! Sometimes I wonder whether it is worth the while to really try to help these individuals.
This subject intrigued me (even though I am past the age of looking for a job) and I wanted to learn about the various viewpoints on offer. However, it seems that the person asking the question is not interested.
R. Ramamurthy
From India, Bangalore
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Dear Preet,
What two seniors, Mr. Dinesh V Divekar and Mr. R Ramamurthy, have said here prompts me to this posting. A thought I felt I should share here to revive what I feel is an "art" that is being overlooked more often these days. It would really be worth looking into.
Reciprocation
According to sociologists and anthropologists, one of the most widespread and basic norms of human culture is embodied in the rule for reciprocation. The rule requires that one person try to repay, in any form not necessarily in kind, what another person has provided.
By obligating the recipient of an act to repayment in the future, the rule for reciprocation allows one individual to give something to another with confidence that it is not being lost. This sense of future obligation within the rule makes possible the development of various kinds of continuing relationships, transactions, and exchanges that are beneficial to society. Consequently, all members of society are trained from childhood to abide by the rule or suffer serious social disapproval.
The decision to comply with another's request is frequently influenced by the reciprocity rule. One favorite and profitable tactic of certain compliance professionals is to give something before asking for a return favor.
The exploitability of this tactic is due to three characteristics of the rule for reciprocation.
First, the rule is extremely powerful, often overwhelming the influence of other factors that normally determine compliance with a request.
Second, the rule applies even to uninvited first favors, thereby reducing our ability to decide whom we wish to owe and putting the choice in the hands of others.
Finally, the rule can spur unequal exchanges; to be rid of the uncomfortable feeling of indebtedness, an individual will often agree to a request for a substantially larger favor than the one he or she received.
Another way that the rule for reciprocity can increase compliance involves a simple variation on the basic theme: Instead of providing a first favor that stimulates a return favor, an individual can make an initial concession that stimulates a return concession.
One compliance procedure, called the rejection then-retreat technique, or door-in-the-face technique, relies heavily on the pressure to reciprocate concessions. By starting with an extreme request that is sure to be rejected, a requester can then profitably retreat to a smaller request (the one that was desired all along), which is likely to be accepted because it appears to be a concession. Research indicates that, aside from increasing the likelihood that a person will say yes to a request, the rejection-then-retreat technique also increases the likelihood that the person will carry out the request and will agree to such requests in the future.
Our best defense against the use of reciprocity pressures to gain our compliance is not systematic rejection of the initial offers of others. Rather, we should accept initial favors or concessions in good faith but be ready to redefine them as tricks should they later be proved as such. Once they are redefined in this way, we will no longer feel a need to respond with a favor or concession of our own.
From India, Hyderabad
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What two seniors, Mr. Dinesh V Divekar and Mr. R Ramamurthy, have said here prompts me to this posting. A thought I felt I should share here to revive what I feel is an "art" that is being overlooked more often these days. It would really be worth looking into.
Reciprocation
According to sociologists and anthropologists, one of the most widespread and basic norms of human culture is embodied in the rule for reciprocation. The rule requires that one person try to repay, in any form not necessarily in kind, what another person has provided.
By obligating the recipient of an act to repayment in the future, the rule for reciprocation allows one individual to give something to another with confidence that it is not being lost. This sense of future obligation within the rule makes possible the development of various kinds of continuing relationships, transactions, and exchanges that are beneficial to society. Consequently, all members of society are trained from childhood to abide by the rule or suffer serious social disapproval.
The decision to comply with another's request is frequently influenced by the reciprocity rule. One favorite and profitable tactic of certain compliance professionals is to give something before asking for a return favor.
The exploitability of this tactic is due to three characteristics of the rule for reciprocation.
First, the rule is extremely powerful, often overwhelming the influence of other factors that normally determine compliance with a request.
Second, the rule applies even to uninvited first favors, thereby reducing our ability to decide whom we wish to owe and putting the choice in the hands of others.
Finally, the rule can spur unequal exchanges; to be rid of the uncomfortable feeling of indebtedness, an individual will often agree to a request for a substantially larger favor than the one he or she received.
Another way that the rule for reciprocity can increase compliance involves a simple variation on the basic theme: Instead of providing a first favor that stimulates a return favor, an individual can make an initial concession that stimulates a return concession.
One compliance procedure, called the rejection then-retreat technique, or door-in-the-face technique, relies heavily on the pressure to reciprocate concessions. By starting with an extreme request that is sure to be rejected, a requester can then profitably retreat to a smaller request (the one that was desired all along), which is likely to be accepted because it appears to be a concession. Research indicates that, aside from increasing the likelihood that a person will say yes to a request, the rejection-then-retreat technique also increases the likelihood that the person will carry out the request and will agree to such requests in the future.
Our best defense against the use of reciprocity pressures to gain our compliance is not systematic rejection of the initial offers of others. Rather, we should accept initial favors or concessions in good faith but be ready to redefine them as tricks should they later be proved as such. Once they are redefined in this way, we will no longer feel a need to respond with a favor or concession of our own.
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Dear Sir, Why not. If opportunity comes, you can shift your career and acquire knowledge to run the show as HR Manager. D.Gurumurthy HR&IR Consultant Hyderabad.
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Hello Dinesh/R Ramamurthy/TSK. Raman,
Looks like everyone is speaking to a wall. A classic example of two Sanskrit phrases I recently used in another thread: "Paatra/Apaatra daan".
Why don't we better utilize our time for another, more needy individual—who values others' time?
Regards,
TS
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Looks like everyone is speaking to a wall. A classic example of two Sanskrit phrases I recently used in another thread: "Paatra/Apaatra daan".
Why don't we better utilize our time for another, more needy individual—who values others' time?
Regards,
TS
From India, Hyderabad
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