Hi all members of this forum.
I was working with a company in Gurgaon and now have left the company in July 2012. Now I wanted to withdraw my EPF balance from the company. So I just collected the EPF form from the EPF office and went to submit the filled form in my previous company. But the HR refused to take it and said to me that she will not give the EPF money to me. Then I sent the form by courier in the company, one of my ex-colleagues told me that your form is received by the HR. But she didn’t take any action on the form.
I just checked my EPF balance online then I got to know that the company didn’t submit my all deducted money of EPF in my EPF a/c.
Now I want to know that what I should do. Please people answer the few questions;
How to get my BPF balance from my previous company while they didn’t submit my form into the EPF office??
They submitted just half of my deducted EPF money from the salary, so will I get whole balance of my EPF or just the submitted balance by the company ?
Waiting for all of your valuable suggestion.
Regards..
From India, Delhi
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3I was working with a company in Gurgaon and now have left the company in July 2012. Now I wanted to withdraw my EPF balance from the company. So I just collected the EPF form from the EPF office and went to submit the filled form in my previous company. But the HR refused to take it and said to me that she will not give the EPF money to me. Then I sent the form by courier in the company, one of my ex-colleagues told me that your form is received by the HR. But she didn’t take any action on the form.
I just checked my EPF balance online then I got to know that the company didn’t submit my all deducted money of EPF in my EPF a/c.
Now I want to know that what I should do. Please people answer the few questions;
How to get my BPF balance from my previous company while they didn’t submit my form into the EPF office??
They submitted just half of my deducted EPF money from the salary, so will I get whole balance of my EPF or just the submitted balance by the company ?
Waiting for all of your valuable suggestion.
Regards..
From India, Delhi
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Dear Priya,
Your query is incomplete. You need to answer the following questions to understand your case better:
1. Why is the company refusing to accept the PF withdrawal form?
2. Do you know your PF Number? (Yes / No)
3. How can you say that the company didn't deposit all PF deductions on your part?
After this, one can provide you with clear information about the procedure of PF withdrawal.
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From India, Gurgaon
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Your query is incomplete. You need to answer the following questions to understand your case better:
1. Why is the company refusing to accept the PF withdrawal form?
2. Do you know your PF Number? (Yes / No)
3. How can you say that the company didn't deposit all PF deductions on your part?
After this, one can provide you with clear information about the procedure of PF withdrawal.
Chill HR!! https://www.facebook.com/HRGang
From India, Gurgaon
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Thank you for your response. Here are the answers:
1) The main reason why my previous company refused to give it is that I left the company without any prior notice due to some personal problems. Later on, I tried to contact the HR/Company, but they were not answering my calls.
2) Yes, I know the EPF number.
3) I calculated the deducted amount over 2 years, as mentioned in my salary slip, and found it to be significantly less than what was shown in the SMS sent by the EPF's official website. (As you may know, we can check our EPF balance online.)
Please advise me on the next steps.
From India, Delhi
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1) The main reason why my previous company refused to give it is that I left the company without any prior notice due to some personal problems. Later on, I tried to contact the HR/Company, but they were not answering my calls.
2) Yes, I know the EPF number.
3) I calculated the deducted amount over 2 years, as mentioned in my salary slip, and found it to be significantly less than what was shown in the SMS sent by the EPF's official website. (As you may know, we can check our EPF balance online.)
Please advise me on the next steps.
From India, Delhi
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1) The main reason why my previous company refused to give it is I left the company without any prior notice due to some personal problems. Later on, I tried to contact HRs/Company, but they were not picking up my phone.
Answer: It's okay; well, there are other ways out for PF withdrawal.
2) Yes, I know the EPF number.
Answer: If you have your PF Number with you, you can withdraw your PF amount even without getting any signature of the previous employer. You need to fill PF withdrawal forms and get them signed/attested by the Manager of your bank (Nationalised banks), Postmaster, Any gazetted officer, etc., and submit the same to the PF authorities for further withdrawal processing.
3) Because I calculated my deducted amount of 2 years, which is mentioned in the salary slip, and it was too little than what was showing in the SMS sent by the EPF's official website. (You better know we can check our EPF balance online.)
Answer: Yes, obviously, I know the procedure of how to check PF online, but just wanted to know how you assume it is less. If there is any difference in the actual deduction of your PF (As per salary slips) and the amount submitted to the PF authorities by your company, then you can file a complaint to the PF authorities for action.
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From India, Gurgaon
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Answer: It's okay; well, there are other ways out for PF withdrawal.
2) Yes, I know the EPF number.
Answer: If you have your PF Number with you, you can withdraw your PF amount even without getting any signature of the previous employer. You need to fill PF withdrawal forms and get them signed/attested by the Manager of your bank (Nationalised banks), Postmaster, Any gazetted officer, etc., and submit the same to the PF authorities for further withdrawal processing.
3) Because I calculated my deducted amount of 2 years, which is mentioned in the salary slip, and it was too little than what was showing in the SMS sent by the EPF's official website. (You better know we can check our EPF balance online.)
Answer: Yes, obviously, I know the procedure of how to check PF online, but just wanted to know how you assume it is less. If there is any difference in the actual deduction of your PF (As per salary slips) and the amount submitted to the PF authorities by your company, then you can file a complaint to the PF authorities for action.
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From India, Gurgaon
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You can send your calculation to your previous employer if you have a salary slip. Politely, to resolve this matter, they have to submit the remaining PF amount (Employee 12% & Employer Contribution 13.61%) in your PF account. If they do not agree to this, you may take legal action against your previous employer because they committed fraud against you and possibly other employees.
Nisar Khan
Manager HR
S B Infrabuild Pvt Ltd
From India, New Delhi
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Nisar Khan
Manager HR
S B Infrabuild Pvt Ltd
From India, New Delhi
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Nasir Ji,
PF authorities will pay employer contribution of 12% only. The other 1.61% consists of EDLI and other administrative charges that will not be paid to employees at the time of withdrawal.
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PF authorities will pay employer contribution of 12% only. The other 1.61% consists of EDLI and other administrative charges that will not be paid to employees at the time of withdrawal.
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From India, Gurgaon
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Hi, Thanks Gurgaon HR & Nisar for your replies.
@ Gurgaon HR - I discussed one of my ex-managers & we were working in the same company. I told your suggestion to him, and he informed me that he filed an RTI in the EPF office. The EPF office followed the RTI by itself, and the company had to transfer his entire balance into his account. He received all his EPF money in his account within 12 days. He suggested I do the same because no one will be easily ready to attest my form. Does it work?
From India, Delhi
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@ Gurgaon HR - I discussed one of my ex-managers & we were working in the same company. I told your suggestion to him, and he informed me that he filed an RTI in the EPF office. The EPF office followed the RTI by itself, and the company had to transfer his entire balance into his account. He received all his EPF money in his account within 12 days. He suggested I do the same because no one will be easily ready to attest my form. Does it work?
From India, Delhi
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Dear Priya,
Greetings for the day.
Need not worry, you will receive your EPF accumulation. First of all, please confirm if you have your EPF number. If yes, kindly inform me about the EPFO your establishment falls under. Only then can I guide you on the next steps.
Thanks & Regards,
Sumit Kumar Saxena
+91-9899669071
From India, Ghaziabad
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Greetings for the day.
Need not worry, you will receive your EPF accumulation. First of all, please confirm if you have your EPF number. If yes, kindly inform me about the EPFO your establishment falls under. Only then can I guide you on the next steps.
Thanks & Regards,
Sumit Kumar Saxena
+91-9899669071
From India, Ghaziabad
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Hi Saxena,
Upon seeing the above replies, I understood that you have sufficient information with you. You can approach the PF authorities with your documents for further action from their end.
However, my suggestion is to continue in the EPF scheme for at least 10 years by keeping the amount in the PF account, as a private employee. Is it better?
My email id is ram26500@gmail.com, and my cell number is 9949376767 for further assistance.
From India, Visakhapatnam
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Upon seeing the above replies, I understood that you have sufficient information with you. You can approach the PF authorities with your documents for further action from their end.
However, my suggestion is to continue in the EPF scheme for at least 10 years by keeping the amount in the PF account, as a private employee. Is it better?
My email id is ram26500@gmail.com, and my cell number is 9949376767 for further assistance.
From India, Visakhapatnam
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Two issues have been raised in this query. One is the non-attestation of forms, and the second is the less amount shown in the online record of the PF office.
My views are:
The employer is statutorily bound to attest or return the forms within 5 days of receipt; otherwise, on complaint, the employer can be prosecuted. The employee can get the forms attested from his bank manager or other authorities as mentioned in the forms and submit the same to the PF Office. In case the job was left before the expiry of one year from the date of submission of forms to obtain whatever amount is shown in his account. The employee must ensure that the amount shown in the account is related to EPF, as the amount of EPS is settled only if the service is less than 10 years. In case of any doubt relating to no deposit of the full amount, the employee can file a complaint with RPFC. It's always better to get the amount transferred to the new establishment if joined, to have continuity of EPS benefits.
A.K. Chandok RPFC (Retd.) <link no longer exists - removed>
From India, Chandigarh
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My views are:
The employer is statutorily bound to attest or return the forms within 5 days of receipt; otherwise, on complaint, the employer can be prosecuted. The employee can get the forms attested from his bank manager or other authorities as mentioned in the forms and submit the same to the PF Office. In case the job was left before the expiry of one year from the date of submission of forms to obtain whatever amount is shown in his account. The employee must ensure that the amount shown in the account is related to EPF, as the amount of EPS is settled only if the service is less than 10 years. In case of any doubt relating to no deposit of the full amount, the employee can file a complaint with RPFC. It's always better to get the amount transferred to the new establishment if joined, to have continuity of EPS benefits.
A.K. Chandok RPFC (Retd.) <link no longer exists - removed>
From India, Chandigarh
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Hi Priya,
Nice to meet you. I suggest you that why dont u go for funds transfer through Form 13 (R) which is available with your existing employer, so that your service will be continued without break.
Rgds
PGR
Hyderabad
From India, Hyderabad
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Nice to meet you. I suggest you that why dont u go for funds transfer through Form 13 (R) which is available with your existing employer, so that your service will be continued without break.
Rgds
PGR
Hyderabad
From India, Hyderabad
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I think you are working in other company and also a member of EPF/FPS. Why you do not transfer the EPF/FPS amount to New PF Account ?
Please fill the Form No. 13 and submitt the same to you PF Office duly attested by the present Employer.
In the Balance inquiry only PF amount shown FPS amount not shown in the message reply by EPFO. For full detail Register and Login for Generation of Passbook. You can see the full detail of contribution Month-wise.
Man Singh Samkaria
From India, Gurgaon
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Please fill the Form No. 13 and submitt the same to you PF Office duly attested by the present Employer.
In the Balance inquiry only PF amount shown FPS amount not shown in the message reply by EPFO. For full detail Register and Login for Generation of Passbook. You can see the full detail of contribution Month-wise.
Man Singh Samkaria
From India, Gurgaon
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Thank you to all of you for your replies.
Now, I am thinking of transferring all my EPF amount to my current company. So please, can you tell me the procedure for transferring money from the Gurgaon office to the Delhi office? What will be my role in completing this procedure?
From India, Delhi
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Now, I am thinking of transferring all my EPF amount to my current company. So please, can you tell me the procedure for transferring money from the Gurgaon office to the Delhi office? What will be my role in completing this procedure?
From India, Delhi
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Procedure is the same. You submit the Form 13 in your present PF office Delhi North/Delhi South/Laxmi Nagar, through your present employer. Funds can transfer internally within the office, to a regional office, or to any PF office anywhere all over India.
From India, Gurgaon
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Hi, I have an issue regarding my dad's PF account. My dad took VRS from Ciba of GEIGY of India Ltd. in Dec 1992. He does not have his EPF number, so how can we check how much amount is in savings and how can we get it back. The company is no more in operation.
From India, Mumbai
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