Hello,
I am in the US working as a project manager for a major IT company. I have been working with the same customer for close to six years. Since 2010, my boss has been slowly taking away responsibilities from me and promoting a junior with whom he has worked on past projects. The customer has also been informed, as per my understanding, that the new person will gradually assume all responsibilities. It's only me to whom the boss has not provided updates and has remained silent. When I tried to address this issue, he dismissed it as a non-issue and mentioned that he is trying to make my life easier. The customers have tremendous respect for my work and have appreciated the way I handle projects. For critical and complex projects, they specifically request me to manage them from start to finish. With my parents' blessings, I have successfully executed all projects to date.
I have been with this organization for nearly 10 years, and for the past two years, it has been distressing to see how I have been excluded from main discussions by my Indian boss. He has recommended the promotion of new team members who are junior to me and did not initiate mine on time (I discovered from HR that my initiation was delayed). Despite the boss repeatedly telling me he had already initiated it. I have taken steps to transition out of the account and work from India. However, I find it challenging to openly discuss this with HR, as my boss has a strong rapport with them, and they may inform him before fully hearing me out. Is there a way I can raise this issue to senior management without remaining silent? I feel hurt and betrayed, considering the significant effort and hard work I have put into growing the company's business to assist this individual.
From United States, San Diego
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I am in the US working as a project manager for a major IT company. I have been working with the same customer for close to six years. Since 2010, my boss has been slowly taking away responsibilities from me and promoting a junior with whom he has worked on past projects. The customer has also been informed, as per my understanding, that the new person will gradually assume all responsibilities. It's only me to whom the boss has not provided updates and has remained silent. When I tried to address this issue, he dismissed it as a non-issue and mentioned that he is trying to make my life easier. The customers have tremendous respect for my work and have appreciated the way I handle projects. For critical and complex projects, they specifically request me to manage them from start to finish. With my parents' blessings, I have successfully executed all projects to date.
I have been with this organization for nearly 10 years, and for the past two years, it has been distressing to see how I have been excluded from main discussions by my Indian boss. He has recommended the promotion of new team members who are junior to me and did not initiate mine on time (I discovered from HR that my initiation was delayed). Despite the boss repeatedly telling me he had already initiated it. I have taken steps to transition out of the account and work from India. However, I find it challenging to openly discuss this with HR, as my boss has a strong rapport with them, and they may inform him before fully hearing me out. Is there a way I can raise this issue to senior management without remaining silent? I feel hurt and betrayed, considering the significant effort and hard work I have put into growing the company's business to assist this individual.
From United States, San Diego
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Dear Swaresh,
According to your problem, you can move to senior management. But before moving, you must know if they are aware of you as an employee. In big companies, there are times when senior management is not aware of all employees. In such cases, they may only listen to the top layers.
You can approach your senior management or anyone whom you feel is trustworthy. If this has been happening for the past two years only, then you need to analyze why it has happened to you specifically. Perhaps somewhere you also went wrong; think about it.
Regards,
Mitali
From India, New Delhi
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4According to your problem, you can move to senior management. But before moving, you must know if they are aware of you as an employee. In big companies, there are times when senior management is not aware of all employees. In such cases, they may only listen to the top layers.
You can approach your senior management or anyone whom you feel is trustworthy. If this has been happening for the past two years only, then you need to analyze why it has happened to you specifically. Perhaps somewhere you also went wrong; think about it.
Regards,
Mitali
From India, New Delhi
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If you can, then CHANGE YOUR JOB. If you can't, then follow the advice on motivation, how to improve performance, 100 tips, 1000 examples, etc. Reading such advice and implementing it, while thinking that things have changed, might help you navigate your remaining days until you retire.
Mind you, when someone advises you to look for a better job, HR Gurus might say, "Don't Run Away." However, remember that thinking about one's well-being is not running away from job problems. Changing for the better is sometimes necessary to survive in the politics of work life.
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From India, Mumbai
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Mind you, when someone advises you to look for a better job, HR Gurus might say, "Don't Run Away." However, remember that thinking about one's well-being is not running away from job problems. Changing for the better is sometimes necessary to survive in the politics of work life.
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From India, Mumbai
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Once you lose the support of the boss, it's time to move on. However, if his bosses know about you and you can gain their support, it's a different matter.
If the company that you did the project for is happy, then there may be a chance to get permanent employment with them. I know of a few cases in the UK where people from India who came to do projects were absorbed by the companies.
Best wishes,
Simhan
A retired academic in the UK
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If the company that you did the project for is happy, then there may be a chance to get permanent employment with them. I know of a few cases in the UK where people from India who came to do projects were absorbed by the companies.
Best wishes,
Simhan
A retired academic in the UK
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It happens in organizations. Sometimes, sincere and hardworking individuals are unrecognized or unrewarded, while some unscrupulous apple-polishing elements are disproportionately promoted or encouraged. This is a sign of unhealthiness within HR. HR should introspect with the concerned individuals on specific grievances of employees to address issues promptly. Unfortunately, this is not happening.
If you find yourself sidelined for an extended period, it would be wise to consider seeking a better job opportunity. An individual cannot effectively fight against an organization for the injustices they have faced.
From India, Lucknow
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If you find yourself sidelined for an extended period, it would be wise to consider seeking a better job opportunity. An individual cannot effectively fight against an organization for the injustices they have faced.
From India, Lucknow
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Dear Swaresh,
It's lagging on the part of HR that they must look after the same, as this may be a usual practice; otherwise, don't get surprised. It happens in corporate culture every now and then, although I am not the right one to comment upon International Work Culture.
But being the Indian boss, favoritism may have arisen. Therefore, since you are right in your opinion and intention as well, just move ahead and talk with HR and discuss with senior management too.
At least by doing so, you are not going to lose anything.
Do mind that you talk at the right time, in the right tone, with the right words! The impact is certainly going to be there.
Before you discuss it with them with patience, just ponder upon the past events so that you can well frame your conversation well in advance and explain the same to them with examples, as they may ask you why didn't you turn up in the past two years.
In the end, just do it with full belief that whatever happens, happens for the best. And as you said, do remember your parents' blessings are always protecting you, and this will turn out to be beautiful too, as it's not the end if it's not beautiful.
Do keep us updated about the same.
Regards,
MK
From India, Delhi
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It's lagging on the part of HR that they must look after the same, as this may be a usual practice; otherwise, don't get surprised. It happens in corporate culture every now and then, although I am not the right one to comment upon International Work Culture.
But being the Indian boss, favoritism may have arisen. Therefore, since you are right in your opinion and intention as well, just move ahead and talk with HR and discuss with senior management too.
At least by doing so, you are not going to lose anything.
Do mind that you talk at the right time, in the right tone, with the right words! The impact is certainly going to be there.
Before you discuss it with them with patience, just ponder upon the past events so that you can well frame your conversation well in advance and explain the same to them with examples, as they may ask you why didn't you turn up in the past two years.
In the end, just do it with full belief that whatever happens, happens for the best. And as you said, do remember your parents' blessings are always protecting you, and this will turn out to be beautiful too, as it's not the end if it's not beautiful.
Do keep us updated about the same.
Regards,
MK
From India, Delhi
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Thank you all for your responses. I am thankful for all the encouraging and kind responses and best wishes. It looks like I am on the right path to move forward.
As a few of you rightly pointed out, it is necessary for someone in senior management to know about me as a person before I approach them. I will definitely ensure the same; otherwise, I agree the effort will be futile. The two posts at the beginning mentioned that I need to ponder if something was wrong with me and why I was the only one singled out. I did, and since everything was going well and all targets were met as planned, I was surprised. Even if something was not right, it should have been openly discussed with me. But instead, the game was and is being silently played behind my back.
I also spoke to past colleagues who had worked with this individual. According to them, though my boss may seem charming and a sweet talker outwardly, he prefers people who continue to engage with him even after office hours on a personal level. I am someone who values family time after work and avoids excessive flattery after hours. There also seems to be an element of regional bias, as per former employees. As someone rightly pointed out, and I agree, it is definitely a mistake on the part of HR.
The onsite HR of this IT major seems to be aligned with the senior management team. Complaints or grievances against a manager do not go to their supervisor but directly to them as a personal and confidential note. The HR also does not engage with us one-on-one. They only visit us at social events or forums since it is mandated.
Anyway, I will move forward and, if possible, try to escalate this matter in an appropriate manner. Thanks again.
From United States, San Diego
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As a few of you rightly pointed out, it is necessary for someone in senior management to know about me as a person before I approach them. I will definitely ensure the same; otherwise, I agree the effort will be futile. The two posts at the beginning mentioned that I need to ponder if something was wrong with me and why I was the only one singled out. I did, and since everything was going well and all targets were met as planned, I was surprised. Even if something was not right, it should have been openly discussed with me. But instead, the game was and is being silently played behind my back.
I also spoke to past colleagues who had worked with this individual. According to them, though my boss may seem charming and a sweet talker outwardly, he prefers people who continue to engage with him even after office hours on a personal level. I am someone who values family time after work and avoids excessive flattery after hours. There also seems to be an element of regional bias, as per former employees. As someone rightly pointed out, and I agree, it is definitely a mistake on the part of HR.
The onsite HR of this IT major seems to be aligned with the senior management team. Complaints or grievances against a manager do not go to their supervisor but directly to them as a personal and confidential note. The HR also does not engage with us one-on-one. They only visit us at social events or forums since it is mandated.
Anyway, I will move forward and, if possible, try to escalate this matter in an appropriate manner. Thanks again.
From United States, San Diego
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Hi,
10 years is a long time, and I'll be very surprised if there is no one in senior management who is not aware of the work you have done. Escalation is a solution I won't ponder much upon, as once such things are escalated and your boss eventually comes to know of it, then what? He will not change, not so soon.
Moving on is a right option, as suggested by many members here. Sometimes it is advisable just to carry on without much. In such organization, HR is only utilized for hiring and exit formalities, and that's all. They make formats and ask people to fill in, and their work is done. Because of such HR professionals, the whole fraternity suffers from stereotyped notions.
All the best, Swaresh.
Regards,
From India, Delhi
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10 years is a long time, and I'll be very surprised if there is no one in senior management who is not aware of the work you have done. Escalation is a solution I won't ponder much upon, as once such things are escalated and your boss eventually comes to know of it, then what? He will not change, not so soon.
Moving on is a right option, as suggested by many members here. Sometimes it is advisable just to carry on without much. In such organization, HR is only utilized for hiring and exit formalities, and that's all. They make formats and ask people to fill in, and their work is done. Because of such HR professionals, the whole fraternity suffers from stereotyped notions.
All the best, Swaresh.
Regards,
From India, Delhi
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Hello Swaresh Shetty,
The way I look at the whole scenario is this:
Possibility-1: The senior management already knows about what your boss is doing and the reason being to force you out as a cost-cutting/limiting measure. Maybe your boss sold the idea of having 'his guy' to do the same work at a lower cost—since at the end of the day, he can use it to show better performance. Hope you get what I mean.
Possibility-2: The senior management doesn't know—like a few others pointed out—and this guy is playing his own sweet round of politics.
Possibility-3: The senior management already knows about what your boss is doing BUT are keeping silent—maybe they view your boss's need for the Company MORE than yours.
I have seen ALL the 3 possibilities play out in large IT Companies.
Now coming to your PoA—what YOU need to do, since that's the only thing that's in YOUR hands, NOT what your boss does or doesn't. Please confirm if you are on H1-B or some other Visa? A lot could depend on this factor with respect to the options available to you.
If you are indeed on H1-B, then I suggest you work in a multi-pronged way: escalate the matter within the Company [since having stayed there for so long, I am sure you would have some sort of emotional bonding with it] AND work to find alternate openings within the USA—to begin with. Since you haven't mentioned your skillset, I'm not sure if yours is an in-demand skill within the USA—anyway, you would know that aspect better.
Another aspect is regarding your client. If your rapport with them is ABSOLUTELY good [meaning what you share with them does remain confidential], you can check out if you can be absorbed there itself. The agreement they have with your Company may need to be taken into account even if there's a possibility of this happening.
However, if there's no possibility of this happening, then your client could at least be helpful at this juncture to give you good referrals—which are quite vital in the USA.
If you want to return to India, that's YOUR choice, but I don't think your company NEEDS to know about it. Those involved with the IT industry know that this step is easier said than done since it involves a lot more than just changing a job. That's why I used the words 'to begin with' above. If the company comes to know that you are looking for a change WITHIN the USA, the chances of them taking you more seriously [especially if it's indeed Possibility-2 that's the fact] are much higher.
As of now, that's all I can think of. If I have missed out any aspects that may have a bearing on your case, please do let me know.
Regards,
TS
From India, Hyderabad
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The way I look at the whole scenario is this:
Possibility-1: The senior management already knows about what your boss is doing and the reason being to force you out as a cost-cutting/limiting measure. Maybe your boss sold the idea of having 'his guy' to do the same work at a lower cost—since at the end of the day, he can use it to show better performance. Hope you get what I mean.
Possibility-2: The senior management doesn't know—like a few others pointed out—and this guy is playing his own sweet round of politics.
Possibility-3: The senior management already knows about what your boss is doing BUT are keeping silent—maybe they view your boss's need for the Company MORE than yours.
I have seen ALL the 3 possibilities play out in large IT Companies.
Now coming to your PoA—what YOU need to do, since that's the only thing that's in YOUR hands, NOT what your boss does or doesn't. Please confirm if you are on H1-B or some other Visa? A lot could depend on this factor with respect to the options available to you.
If you are indeed on H1-B, then I suggest you work in a multi-pronged way: escalate the matter within the Company [since having stayed there for so long, I am sure you would have some sort of emotional bonding with it] AND work to find alternate openings within the USA—to begin with. Since you haven't mentioned your skillset, I'm not sure if yours is an in-demand skill within the USA—anyway, you would know that aspect better.
Another aspect is regarding your client. If your rapport with them is ABSOLUTELY good [meaning what you share with them does remain confidential], you can check out if you can be absorbed there itself. The agreement they have with your Company may need to be taken into account even if there's a possibility of this happening.
However, if there's no possibility of this happening, then your client could at least be helpful at this juncture to give you good referrals—which are quite vital in the USA.
If you want to return to India, that's YOUR choice, but I don't think your company NEEDS to know about it. Those involved with the IT industry know that this step is easier said than done since it involves a lot more than just changing a job. That's why I used the words 'to begin with' above. If the company comes to know that you are looking for a change WITHIN the USA, the chances of them taking you more seriously [especially if it's indeed Possibility-2 that's the fact] are much higher.
As of now, that's all I can think of. If I have missed out any aspects that may have a bearing on your case, please do let me know.
Regards,
TS
From India, Hyderabad
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I would do the following: Talk to the boss by telling him you are feeling sidelined and demotivated. From what you say, it's clearly a game, but he must make it clear.
Leave the company ASAP. I wouldn't consider escalation as an option. Two years is a long time for 'stories' to accumulate... If you want to fight, though, don't resign, rather give it a try. But it would be wiser to quit. Because you might lose a good reference through confrontation... And it may not be worth the risk unless your adrenaline on principles is very high :-)
From United States, Daphne
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Leave the company ASAP. I wouldn't consider escalation as an option. Two years is a long time for 'stories' to accumulate... If you want to fight, though, don't resign, rather give it a try. But it would be wiser to quit. Because you might lose a good reference through confrontation... And it may not be worth the risk unless your adrenaline on principles is very high :-)
From United States, Daphne
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Forgot to mention, I believe in the US, the notice period is not more than 2 weeks. So as an expat, you could resign and use your two weeks' leave. It's better to be to the point, especially for safeguarding your references....
From United States, Daphne
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Hi,
Can you recall an instance that ticked off your boss? Why is your boss favoring your junior? Did you commit any blunders? If you still can't come up with any answers, then do as all have suggested: move on.
By the way, is there a possibility of restructuring where you can report to another boss?
All the best.
Regards
From India, Visakhapatnam
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Can you recall an instance that ticked off your boss? Why is your boss favoring your junior? Did you commit any blunders? If you still can't come up with any answers, then do as all have suggested: move on.
By the way, is there a possibility of restructuring where you can report to another boss?
All the best.
Regards
From India, Visakhapatnam
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From the way you have put it, it appears you are going through a tough time. If I may ask you, is your boss truly trying to sideline you? Do you fully believe in whatever your customer tells you? How has your relationship been with your boss before and now? What would have made him change his opinion now, if there is any change? Do you believe that the junior guy is performing better than you in terms of efficiency? Isn't your boss trying to build capacity in junior guys as a means of succession planning? Isn't your job indispensable? Have you ever failed in your duties and why?
Try asking the above few questions. If you still feel you are being sidelined, perhaps it is good to speak to your boss. Be soft and put your point straight. Tell him your feelings. Don't confront or pick up the argument with your boss. As far as I am concerned, confrontation will be my last resort. After having exhausted all means to come to the expected normal situation, you may escalate the matter to higher management.
Even after having done all you could do, and if there is no change in the way he handles you, perhaps an exit may be the right approach. No matter how high your pay is, no matter how hard you work, but if you have strained your relations with your boss and colleagues, then you would not enjoy working.
Meanwhile, please keep up and cheers!
Dorji
From Bhutan, Thimphu
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Try asking the above few questions. If you still feel you are being sidelined, perhaps it is good to speak to your boss. Be soft and put your point straight. Tell him your feelings. Don't confront or pick up the argument with your boss. As far as I am concerned, confrontation will be my last resort. After having exhausted all means to come to the expected normal situation, you may escalate the matter to higher management.
Even after having done all you could do, and if there is no change in the way he handles you, perhaps an exit may be the right approach. No matter how high your pay is, no matter how hard you work, but if you have strained your relations with your boss and colleagues, then you would not enjoy working.
Meanwhile, please keep up and cheers!
Dorji
From Bhutan, Thimphu
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Hi,
There may be other possibilities that your boss may need your services in higher responsibilities. In this situation, be positive and try to develop your skills for higher responsibilities because of the following reasons:
1. Your boss might like to share some of his responsibilities with you and do the same for his boss to rise high in the organization.
2. If you leave your current organization, there is a chance that you would not like to be in the same responsibilities but in higher responsibilities, so the skills that you have developed will be needed in your organization or in the new organization.
In both situations, you will be in a win-win situation, and even if you have to leave the organization, you don't know when you need the help of your former team members for some help.
I am from the cement industry, and I don't know how it will work in the services industry. But I still hope this must work.
Regards,
Deepak
From India, Bhubaneswar
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There may be other possibilities that your boss may need your services in higher responsibilities. In this situation, be positive and try to develop your skills for higher responsibilities because of the following reasons:
1. Your boss might like to share some of his responsibilities with you and do the same for his boss to rise high in the organization.
2. If you leave your current organization, there is a chance that you would not like to be in the same responsibilities but in higher responsibilities, so the skills that you have developed will be needed in your organization or in the new organization.
In both situations, you will be in a win-win situation, and even if you have to leave the organization, you don't know when you need the help of your former team members for some help.
I am from the cement industry, and I don't know how it will work in the services industry. But I still hope this must work.
Regards,
Deepak
From India, Bhubaneswar
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Dear Swaresh,
Though it may sound strange, I underwent a similar situation. I am from an engineering manufacturing industry in India, working in the company for the last 10 years. For the last 2 years, I faced a similar situation. I felt I should not give up and fought it out. I apprised the senior management but found out that they actually knew about it. Finally, I managed to get a good job and tendered my resignation. Post-resignation, management is negotiating to keep me back with offerings for a pay hike and promotion. Think over it again and try to find a good job in the US itself.
Best of luck,
S.L.
From India, Calcutta
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Though it may sound strange, I underwent a similar situation. I am from an engineering manufacturing industry in India, working in the company for the last 10 years. For the last 2 years, I faced a similar situation. I felt I should not give up and fought it out. I apprised the senior management but found out that they actually knew about it. Finally, I managed to get a good job and tendered my resignation. Post-resignation, management is negotiating to keep me back with offerings for a pay hike and promotion. Think over it again and try to find a good job in the US itself.
Best of luck,
S.L.
From India, Calcutta
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Wonderful suggestion, Sateesh. Total insights you have projected. I feel your explanation is fully justified. It would be beneficial if Swaresh can understand what exactly you are trying to communicate. Different organizations have different HR set-ups. The values and behaviors also matter for certain organizations more than the work of the associates. Hence, it is all in Swaresh's hands to think and take a positive step instead of moving with negative thoughts of bringing the boss's deeds to the forefront of the top management, which may not work at all. Having another option on hand and taking such issues to the management and leaving the organization will definitely help others who remain. At most, the person can get a chance of retaining with a promise that they would be taken care of in such situations.
My belief is everything happens for a good purpose. Maybe it's time for Swaresh to leave the place too. He needs to work towards the destiny if it is called for.
Have a good day.
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My belief is everything happens for a good purpose. Maybe it's time for Swaresh to leave the place too. He needs to work towards the destiny if it is called for.
Have a good day.
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Simple! its high time you change your job n also try to analyse if there is any mistake from your end which can be rectified ... All the best !!
From India, Calcutta
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From India, Calcutta
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Hello dear,
I can understand your situation because I have faced similar circumstances in my three-year career. As per human tendency, we often opt for solutions without exploring all the possibilities. Job change is just one option. I encourage everyone to stand up and fight for their rights. Our legal system offers many processes that can assist us, but the first step is to motivate ourselves. I believe that once we have the support of a good HR team, we can consider our options. There is no benefit in maintaining our status as responsible employees and literate individuals without taking action. If you are fulfilling your duties, why not inquire about your rights, even if you are still employed by the same company? Begin gathering evidence of your hard work, which can serve as a trump card when presenting your case to top management. Quietly pave your path because your efforts should not be in vain. Always remember, we must be part of the system to bring about change.
And remember, you are still a part of the system.
From India, Gurgaon
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I can understand your situation because I have faced similar circumstances in my three-year career. As per human tendency, we often opt for solutions without exploring all the possibilities. Job change is just one option. I encourage everyone to stand up and fight for their rights. Our legal system offers many processes that can assist us, but the first step is to motivate ourselves. I believe that once we have the support of a good HR team, we can consider our options. There is no benefit in maintaining our status as responsible employees and literate individuals without taking action. If you are fulfilling your duties, why not inquire about your rights, even if you are still employed by the same company? Begin gathering evidence of your hard work, which can serve as a trump card when presenting your case to top management. Quietly pave your path because your efforts should not be in vain. Always remember, we must be part of the system to bring about change.
And remember, you are still a part of the system.
From India, Gurgaon
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These kinds of politics exist in every company. It is clear that your boss is playing games to chuck you out of the system.
My dear, it is time to look outside of your company and join another company.
From India, Hyderabad
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My dear, it is time to look outside of your company and join another company.
From India, Hyderabad
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Introspect. Find out what more you can do, how much more you can contribute. If you still feel that you are being sidelined, look for a change of job without any further delay. These days, it is not wrong to shift. It could be that your current boss does not want a senior person to do the sort of work, and he is giving you an indication to that effect. You can even discuss with your boss openly. Wish you all good. God bless you.
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This is quite an intricate issue as it propagates internal politics within the hierarchy in your organization. I concur with the other respondents that certain elements are aware of what is happening in terms of eliminating you from the structure.
I am not quite familiar with labor legislation for your country, but I believe that in any corporate environment, fairness must prevail, which is largely engrossed in our South African Labor Legislation, whereby avenues of dispute resolution are availed for such predicaments.
A quick solution is to put yourself in the market, and with the experience you possess, you can walk into any institution without fear of failure.
From Germany
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I am not quite familiar with labor legislation for your country, but I believe that in any corporate environment, fairness must prevail, which is largely engrossed in our South African Labor Legislation, whereby avenues of dispute resolution are availed for such predicaments.
A quick solution is to put yourself in the market, and with the experience you possess, you can walk into any institution without fear of failure.
From Germany
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Dear Mr. Shetty,
Each and every piece of advice in this discussion has valid points. So, start looking for other options, or rather I should say "better opportunities". Once you have found one, you can go ahead and share your problem with the HR team or senior management. If you find their and the current boss's reactions becoming even more adverse, you need not fear as you will already have another offer by then and will be in a position to move forward in your career.
Regards,
Pooja Saha
From India, Calcutta
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Each and every piece of advice in this discussion has valid points. So, start looking for other options, or rather I should say "better opportunities". Once you have found one, you can go ahead and share your problem with the HR team or senior management. If you find their and the current boss's reactions becoming even more adverse, you need not fear as you will already have another offer by then and will be in a position to move forward in your career.
Regards,
Pooja Saha
From India, Calcutta
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Dear Swaresh Shetty,
Why don't you get an appointment to speak to your boss? Have you ever done it? Instead of blaming him, why don't you challenge him with your professionalism, passion, simplicity, etc.? There may be many reasons for him not to support you. One of those reasons may be that you are a threat to him (you are smarter than him).
During your conversation, allow him to understand that you are a supportive subordinate. When the ego breaks, he will realize that you are trustworthy and may start appreciating you more than before, if there are any other motivations behind his behavior. However, never let your humility compromise your dignity. Love can conquer the world, but hatred will only harm you. Think positively of your boss and yourself. If you do this, at least he will not try to retain you if you decide to leave the company. Change the company when you are excelling, not in a desperate situation.
All the best.
Johny Joseph.
From India, Kottayam
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Why don't you get an appointment to speak to your boss? Have you ever done it? Instead of blaming him, why don't you challenge him with your professionalism, passion, simplicity, etc.? There may be many reasons for him not to support you. One of those reasons may be that you are a threat to him (you are smarter than him).
During your conversation, allow him to understand that you are a supportive subordinate. When the ego breaks, he will realize that you are trustworthy and may start appreciating you more than before, if there are any other motivations behind his behavior. However, never let your humility compromise your dignity. Love can conquer the world, but hatred will only harm you. Think positively of your boss and yourself. If you do this, at least he will not try to retain you if you decide to leave the company. Change the company when you are excelling, not in a desperate situation.
All the best.
Johny Joseph.
From India, Kottayam
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Dear Mr. Shetty,
Your plight is genuine. Working abroad for a 10-year stint in the same organization and successfully managing client issues, you are now reflecting on the difference of opinion between you and the "BOSS" (certainly it is dormant & now you have been feeling about it).
I have been working abroad and responsible for multiple countries, locations, divisions, and projects as Group HRM. I have personally come across such issues as others have handled in this forum, but I have counter questions for you:
1. During the last 10 years, how was your track record with the current boss and his predecessors?
2. How was your leverage/presentations in business meetings to senior management? You must have been going through this for at least the last 7 years. Do you have records of high performance and awards won during the last 5 years to substantiate your "personal preference" among peers and known to seniors of your boss too?
3. As you said, you must have had an opportunity to represent the department's performance, team performance, or project progress to seniors of your boss as well. They must be knowing you as a person who has been around for more than 9 years. What about long service award?
4. To what degree do you have confidence that HR has been the puppet of all seniors/leaders in your organization, or have you heard from others and accepted? Yes, many HR team members do not initiate actions until they are comfortable with information/statistics or analyses, as well as their compatibility with their seniors to report such things. Perhaps your HR must be like that, and you have not indirectly discussed with your HR to testify their mettle for such cases. Even though you have not been considered for increases/promotions, and juniors are recommended. Either your performance has slipped the bar scale as per your internal performance criteria, or you are not clearly aware. Or your clients have silently complained against you, and you have not been aware. Many people "QUIT" without even discussing with appropriate HR intervention and blame the ineffectiveness of HR.
5. I strongly suggest that if you have been an "ASSIDUOUS PERFORMER" and have been very confident in your client relations/problem-solving skills, please relook at the work done, make a summary, and just briefly present it to your boss in the most lucid manner. Avoid arguments or confrontations. Just assess the reflections and build further actions/dialogues. Do not make any hasty moves. Decide based on what you feel after such deliberations. Remember, "If you refuse to accept none other than the best, you often get it."
Best wishes, N N S Vyas
From Nigeria
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Your plight is genuine. Working abroad for a 10-year stint in the same organization and successfully managing client issues, you are now reflecting on the difference of opinion between you and the "BOSS" (certainly it is dormant & now you have been feeling about it).
I have been working abroad and responsible for multiple countries, locations, divisions, and projects as Group HRM. I have personally come across such issues as others have handled in this forum, but I have counter questions for you:
1. During the last 10 years, how was your track record with the current boss and his predecessors?
2. How was your leverage/presentations in business meetings to senior management? You must have been going through this for at least the last 7 years. Do you have records of high performance and awards won during the last 5 years to substantiate your "personal preference" among peers and known to seniors of your boss too?
3. As you said, you must have had an opportunity to represent the department's performance, team performance, or project progress to seniors of your boss as well. They must be knowing you as a person who has been around for more than 9 years. What about long service award?
4. To what degree do you have confidence that HR has been the puppet of all seniors/leaders in your organization, or have you heard from others and accepted? Yes, many HR team members do not initiate actions until they are comfortable with information/statistics or analyses, as well as their compatibility with their seniors to report such things. Perhaps your HR must be like that, and you have not indirectly discussed with your HR to testify their mettle for such cases. Even though you have not been considered for increases/promotions, and juniors are recommended. Either your performance has slipped the bar scale as per your internal performance criteria, or you are not clearly aware. Or your clients have silently complained against you, and you have not been aware. Many people "QUIT" without even discussing with appropriate HR intervention and blame the ineffectiveness of HR.
5. I strongly suggest that if you have been an "ASSIDUOUS PERFORMER" and have been very confident in your client relations/problem-solving skills, please relook at the work done, make a summary, and just briefly present it to your boss in the most lucid manner. Avoid arguments or confrontations. Just assess the reflections and build further actions/dialogues. Do not make any hasty moves. Decide based on what you feel after such deliberations. Remember, "If you refuse to accept none other than the best, you often get it."
Best wishes, N N S Vyas
From Nigeria
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Hi there,
I just can't believe that even after working for 10 years in a company, your boss is treating you this way. You are now well experienced, my friend. If you decide to move on and approach a new job, companies will definitely want to hire you. Don't continue in a job where you are not happy, especially with so much experience under your belt. Move on, explore new opportunities, open your eyes... there are many companies out there looking for experienced professionals like yourself.
I wish you all the best.
From United Arab Emirates, Dubai
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I just can't believe that even after working for 10 years in a company, your boss is treating you this way. You are now well experienced, my friend. If you decide to move on and approach a new job, companies will definitely want to hire you. Don't continue in a job where you are not happy, especially with so much experience under your belt. Move on, explore new opportunities, open your eyes... there are many companies out there looking for experienced professionals like yourself.
I wish you all the best.
From United Arab Emirates, Dubai
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Look, this is now common in most of the big organizations where everybody wants their own person to make their own group within the organization. So, you have to just chill and try to fight back and prove to the seniors that you are the best. If you still think it is not good for you, then you can talk to the upper-level bosses or move on to another organization. There are lots of organizations out there, so don't worry. Just handle that person and move on to another.
From India, Ahmadabad
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Dear Mr. Shetty and All,
Everyone has contributed their best points to the problem raised by Mr. Shetty. I just want to add one or two lines from my personal experience.
1. The worst happens to us when there is more light waiting for us!
2. The light could be in the same organization waiting for you - take a chance to speak to your boss and appraise him. Get to know what is wrong, what went wrong, what the expectations are, if you failed, if there is anything else expected, and assure that you will try hard to meet them. See if there could be encouragement.
3. If the outcome is biased and not in your favor even after your sincere efforts, I think that is not the place you are required anymore. Look for a change - do not look back and keep worrying!
4. Your services and talents have become useless (even if you have more talents). So do not regret; look for a change.
5. Be confident in your abilities. You are required at some other place for a better position and remuneration!
6. Grab this opportunity to show your might at some other place!
7. It is a boon in disguise.
8. Do not blame the company; thank it for giving you a wonderful time and space to explore.
9. Do not even blame the people for they gave you the opportunity to introspect and get out to see your larger potential!
10. Do not be with people having mean mentalities and those who play politics at work and play with your life.
11. Quit the current company as early as possible if the situation is not favorable. All the best for a double or triple salary with a higher position and the best encouragement!
For your information, I left a large engineering company after 24 years of experience in secretarial and HR fields and joined a Japanese company a few months ago when I reached a situation like you! So you are not alone in this world!
Life is calling you! Just move out and see the wider world!
Good luck and all the best,
K. Ramachandra
Bangalore
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Everyone has contributed their best points to the problem raised by Mr. Shetty. I just want to add one or two lines from my personal experience.
1. The worst happens to us when there is more light waiting for us!
2. The light could be in the same organization waiting for you - take a chance to speak to your boss and appraise him. Get to know what is wrong, what went wrong, what the expectations are, if you failed, if there is anything else expected, and assure that you will try hard to meet them. See if there could be encouragement.
3. If the outcome is biased and not in your favor even after your sincere efforts, I think that is not the place you are required anymore. Look for a change - do not look back and keep worrying!
4. Your services and talents have become useless (even if you have more talents). So do not regret; look for a change.
5. Be confident in your abilities. You are required at some other place for a better position and remuneration!
6. Grab this opportunity to show your might at some other place!
7. It is a boon in disguise.
8. Do not blame the company; thank it for giving you a wonderful time and space to explore.
9. Do not even blame the people for they gave you the opportunity to introspect and get out to see your larger potential!
10. Do not be with people having mean mentalities and those who play politics at work and play with your life.
11. Quit the current company as early as possible if the situation is not favorable. All the best for a double or triple salary with a higher position and the best encouragement!
For your information, I left a large engineering company after 24 years of experience in secretarial and HR fields and joined a Japanese company a few months ago when I reached a situation like you! So you are not alone in this world!
Life is calling you! Just move out and see the wider world!
Good luck and all the best,
K. Ramachandra
Bangalore
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Interesting insights.
However, this is a typical situation regarding 'tensions' in organizations. Most times, HR personnel will have to act alongside management. Some countries with stringent labor legislation have proactive HR personnel, but India is certainly not one of them (at least in my view).
You are moving on as you said. But I often wonder how one interprets the many possibilities. People talk about escalating the matter, bringing in HR, etc. Often, a third person will 'try to resolve'... It's like two kids fighting, and the parents interfere, telling them, "Hey, stop fighting!" Rather than immediately 'directing change,' such as saying, "Hey, you, go and do something else, and you, go and do something else..." The former situation is rather tricky and dangerous. The latter situation is the better bet, but one is hesitant to take 'drastic' measures that are only reasonable in such cases.
It's a phenomenon where you will be pushed down the food chain rather slowly, so you will gradually experience a downslide. The best way: Move out and move up!
I am open to hearing views and cases where it worked, but I am not sure the case was fully replicated in the situations where success was mentioned... Or did I misunderstand? I don't know.
From United States, Daphne
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However, this is a typical situation regarding 'tensions' in organizations. Most times, HR personnel will have to act alongside management. Some countries with stringent labor legislation have proactive HR personnel, but India is certainly not one of them (at least in my view).
You are moving on as you said. But I often wonder how one interprets the many possibilities. People talk about escalating the matter, bringing in HR, etc. Often, a third person will 'try to resolve'... It's like two kids fighting, and the parents interfere, telling them, "Hey, stop fighting!" Rather than immediately 'directing change,' such as saying, "Hey, you, go and do something else, and you, go and do something else..." The former situation is rather tricky and dangerous. The latter situation is the better bet, but one is hesitant to take 'drastic' measures that are only reasonable in such cases.
It's a phenomenon where you will be pushed down the food chain rather slowly, so you will gradually experience a downslide. The best way: Move out and move up!
I am open to hearing views and cases where it worked, but I am not sure the case was fully replicated in the situations where success was mentioned... Or did I misunderstand? I don't know.
From United States, Daphne
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Dear Nikhil S Gurjar,
I think you have not mistaken and have rightly analyzed the issue. Your following point gives the answer to the questioner and reflects my view above:
"It's a phenomenon, you will be pushed down the food chain, rather slowly... So, you will slowly experience a downslide. The best way: Move out and move up!!!"
Regards,
K. Ramachandra
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I think you have not mistaken and have rightly analyzed the issue. Your following point gives the answer to the questioner and reflects my view above:
"It's a phenomenon, you will be pushed down the food chain, rather slowly... So, you will slowly experience a downslide. The best way: Move out and move up!!!"
Regards,
K. Ramachandra
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Hello. First, while I don't want to be overly negative, it appears that your supervisor is disenchanted with you - from your point of view - or you are disenchanted with him/her. Do you remember the event that may have occurred that may have brought on this change? I do not always think that managers are correct or manage the correct way. I also know that longevity of a career is not always an indication of solid performance, great interpersonal skills, or the necessity of promoting a person. Sometimes a person is not ready for a promotion for whatever reason. For this person to take over your responsibilities, are you being moved to a different opportunity? Why are you being sidelined? Are you a contractor or a W2 Employee? I want you to think about your performance reviews. Has there been any discussions there? I'm concerned, from an HR standpoint, that you bring up nationality quite often. What do you think that has to do with the decision-making process? Otherwise, there seems to be handwriting on the wall of replacement movement.
From United States, Falls Church
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